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The Netherlands was 5th and they have had semi legal pot for over 35 years.

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Western Pennsylvania for SO MANY reasons.

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where are you at if you live in western pa?

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I said this somewhere else, but Yuba City, CA, home of Plook and formerly me, was once listed (sometime in the 90's) as the worst place to live in the U.S. by Rand McNally. I think Bill Frisell even named an instrumental "YubaCity" because of this dubious fact. But if you know the really cool joints to hang out in, like Plook, it's a pretty happenin' place.


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KillUgly wrote:
I said this somewhere else, but Yuba City, CA, home of Plook and formerly me, was once listed (sometime in the 90's) as the worst place to live in the U.S. by Rand McNally. I think Bill Frisell even named an instrumental "YubaCity" because of this dubious fact. But if you know the really cool joints to hang out in, like Plook, it's a pretty happenin' place.

With a little research the track "Yuba City" from Bill Frisell's 1989 album "Is That You?" was actually written by the album's producer, Wayne Horvitz, who also performed on the album. The timing of the album's release has me wondering if it was before the Rand McNally recognition. More research.


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I said this somewhere else, but Yuba City, CA, home of Plook and formerly me, was once listed (sometime in the 90's) as the worst place to live in the U.S. by Rand McNally. I think Bill Frisell even named an instrumental "YubaCity" because of this dubious fact. But if you know the really cool joints to hang out in, like Plook, it's a pretty happenin' place.

With a little research the track "Yuba City" from Bill Frisell's 1989 album "Is That You?" was actually written by the album's producer, Wayne Horvitz, who also performed on the album. The timing of the album's release has me wondering if it before the Rand McNally recognition. More research.

OK. The Rand McNally thing happened in 1985 so the timing of the album does make sense. Yuba City also was the home of Juan Corona, one of America's most notorious mass murderers. That happened in the early '70's I believe.


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I could not agree more!!!


Just returned from 2 weeks there and I completely agree.

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Hey i went too France once Perpignan it was the best place i'd say i ever been.

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Hey i went too France once Perpignan it was the best place i'd say i ever been.



I was in Paris in 2007 and the only asshole I met there was from New Jersey.


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Hey i went too France once Perpignan it was the best place i'd say i ever been.



I was in Paris in 2007 and the only asshole I met there was from New Jersey.
you must had gone galoot season :smoke:

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BRAVO SIERRA wrote:
where are you at if you live in western pa?


Right along the river. I can also drive 10 minutes and canoe in a beautiful lake where it's quiet
except for all the birds singing.

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I said this somewhere else, but Yuba City, CA, home of Plook and formerly me, was once listed (sometime in the 90's) as the worst place to live in the U.S. by Rand McNally. I think Bill Frisell even named an instrumental "YubaCity" because of this dubious fact. But if you know the really cool joints to hang out in, like Plook, it's a pretty happenin' place.

With a little research the track "Yuba City" from Bill Frisell's 1989 album "Is That You?" was actually written by the album's producer, Wayne Horvitz, who also performed on the album. The timing of the album's release has me wondering if it before the Rand McNally recognition. More research.

OK. The Rand McNally thing happened in 1985 so the timing of the album does make sense. Yuba City also was the home of Juan Corona, one of America's most notorious mass murderers. That happened in the early '70's I believe.



If you know how to work this town and its location relative to the rest of Northern California, it is the sweet spot, you gottin like driven though and that I do not mind at all... :smoke:


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I remember the yuba city bus crash in Martinez. 28 kids died when they flew from an off ramp. I was in 8th grade and it was the 2nd to last day of school so we decided to cut half the day and goof around. there were helicopters everywhere and lots of sirens. My friend Darren's dad was a fireman at the scene.

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I remember the yuba city bus crash in Martinez. 28 kids died when they flew from an off ramp. I was in 8th grade and it was the 2nd to last day of school so we decided to cut half the day and goof around. there were helicopters everywhere and lots of sirens. My friend Darren's dad was a fireman at the scene.

I remember hearing about the bus crash too. There were still reverberations from that when I started living and working there in 1990. There was also a big flood that killed some people sometime in YC's past. Also, right around New Year's in 1997 there was a threat of another flood (YC is right by the Feather River and protected by levees) and the whole town was evacuated. My son was due to be born at that time so we were cruising around neighboring towns looking for alternate hospitals. Fortunately, my son waited until we were able to return to YC.

I'm not dissing YC, though. Like Plook says it's centrally located between the SF Bay area and Reno/Tahoe and close to Sacramento. It's actually a pretty decent valley town. When Rand McNally made that rating way back when they were considering the whole area including Marysville, and worse, Olivehurst which are some pretty poverty-stricken areas. Besides I can't really talk, I'm from Oroville, which has a pretty bad reputation in it's own right.


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espanglish wrote:
BRAVO SIERRA wrote:
where are you at if you live in western pa?


Right along the river. I can also drive 10 minutes and canoe in a beautiful lake where it's quiet
except for all the birds singing.



I'm from Indiana, pa, my family moved into the area around 1764. I love it out there but no job for me at this time.

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BRAVO SIERRA wrote:
espanglish wrote:
BRAVO SIERRA wrote:
where are you at if you live in western pa?


Right along the river. I can also drive 10 minutes and canoe in a beautiful lake where it's quiet
except for all the birds singing.



I'm from Indiana, pa, my family moved into the area around 1764. I love it out there but no job for me at this time.


Things are tough all over. Don't let it get you down too much.

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I remember the yuba city bus crash in Martinez. 28 kids died when they flew from an off ramp. I was in 8th grade and it was the 2nd to last day of school so we decided to cut half the day and goof around. there were helicopters everywhere and lots of sirens. My friend Darren's dad was a fireman at the scene.

I remember hearing about the bus crash too. There were still reverberations from that when I started living and working there in 1990. There was also a big flood that killed some people sometime in YC's past. Also, right around New Year's in 1997 there was a threat of another flood (YC is right by the Feather River and protected by levees) and the whole town was evacuated. My son was due to be born at that time so we were cruising around neighboring towns looking for alternate hospitals. Fortunately, my son waited until we were able to return to YC.

I'm not dissing YC, though. Like Plook says it's centrally located between the SF Bay area and Reno/Tahoe and close to Sacramento. It's actually a pretty decent valley town. When Rand McNally made that rating way back when they were considering the whole area including Marysville, and worse, Olivehurst which are some pretty poverty-stricken areas. Besides I can't really talk, I'm from Oroville, which has a pretty bad reputation in it's own right.




They just had an anniversary Memorial for the bus crash and dedicated a plack at the site...I was stuck in SF working when they evacuated the town my family stayed with some friends by the Sutter Buttes, the town was a gost town. As to the town and its low rating that is all due to the lack of local jobs, if I wasn't a road dog in Telecom I may be able to get a job locally but for really low pay. The really good part is the area I live in is really nice, well kept, most everyone has good jobs and they are resposible so we do not have a lot of homes that have been repoed. When one does go on the market it usually sales quick because of how good an area it is. Also all the city goverment, law enforcment, and fire department people live here so the crime rate is almost nothing.


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...I was stuck in SF working when they evacuated the town my family stayed with some friends by the Sutter Buttes, the town was a gost town.


Urgh, GOSTs - I hate them. In German they are the regulations for graduation from school (Gymnasiale Oberstufen Anordnungen). But I do love Plook's spelling! :wink:

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Espanglish, I am doing fine , I was just wondering wht you do for work and what river? the Monongahela? I know many folks out there.. There use to be good fishing in yellow creek res, go penn state.

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