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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:24 am 
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Hey, my brother isn't into Zappa at all. But the worst part of it is, he just doesn't get it. Now I know what you're gonna say, "Hey, let him choose to like what he likes." That's all good and well, as long as you at least understand why you don't like things. I mean, he listens to friggin' Green Day and Pink Floyd and Muse and The Beatles, and I've explained to him how even George Harrison of The Beatles has been quoted as saying "We feel that Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is the Beatles equivalent to Freak Out.'' And there was one performance where Zappa performed with Pink Floyd on ''Interstellar Overdrive.'' And Green Day's music is full of social criticism and clever or sly lyrical methods. So I just can't understand why he at the very least doesn't respect Zappa. Any recommendations on how to enlighten a bigot? (relax, that last part was just a joke)


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Don't try to reason with him: kick his ass. That's the only way to get through to your little brother...

At least until he's old enough to kick your ass. Then try to reason with him...

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:12 am 
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MentalTossFlycoon wrote:
Don't try to reason with him: kick his ass. That's the only way to get through to your little brother...

At least until he's old enough to kick your ass. Then try to reason with him...
It's Good too have a older brother that likes FZ :wink:
George Harrison it must be a different Album he was talking about Freakout! doo wop against Sgt pepper I don't know what too say.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:45 am 
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maybe you're trying too hard to convince him. let him come to it naturally...keep playing FZ when he's around and let him warm to it...and if he doesn't, fuck 'im


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:58 am 
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Fuck 'im anyway, who cares what he likes?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:39 am 
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Well, not everyone can be enlightened. If he likes gay ass Green Day, then so be it.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:34 pm 
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Does he not like certain foods also? Certain TV shows? Certain books? Then make him. He's not allowed to have his own tastes in things.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:43 pm 
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MentalTossFlycoon wrote:
Don't try to reason with him: kick his ass. That's the only way to get through to your little brother...

At least until he's old enough to kick your ass. Then try to reason with him...


Good one.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:22 am 
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And tell him that he's dead meat if he ever comes on this forum

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cleon wrote:
MentalTossFlycoon wrote:
Don't try to reason with him: kick his ass. That's the only way to get through to your little brother...

At least until he's old enough to kick your ass. Then try to reason with him...
It's Good too have a older brother that likes FZ :wink:
George Harrison it must be a different Album he was talking about Freakout! doo wop against Sgt pepper I don't know what too say.


We all kow that "Freak Out!" had an influence on the overrated sgt peper album


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Hunt that Harrison quote down for a start then I chat about it :smoke:

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Are you sure he's not adopted? Remember; Little brother is watching you!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:50 pm 
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Get him ripped, hand him a good pair of headphones, and make him listen to ROXY really loud. If that doesn't do it, your only alternative is to kill him.

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Ummmm... Ronny's, what you say........ is that what should be done to you with Fillmore East? :)

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:15 am 
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Take him to see ZPZ or one of the many excellent cover bands. If that doesn't get his interest, move on.


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The Forum Killed Arkay wrote:
Ummmm... Ronny's, what you say........ is that what should be done to you with Fillmore East? :)

Nah. I appreciated the non-Flo & Eddie parts from the start...... Little House, Peaches, the Willie solo....... And even though I don't like them, some of that shit is just plain funny! :lol:

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Don't bother, my little bro who is 47 used to have JG and SY back in the early 80's and has had me around all that time, I thought he had an idea of who and what frank was about, I couldn't have been more wrong. The other month I managed to get him to watch the Crossfire episode from the PMRS porn war period, he was shocked and stuned that Frank could comunicate like that and then we had this discusion where he thought that Frank was a wasted tallent that could have done some good for the comunity with a mind like that, my stand was that we don't need any more people telling us how important freedom is, we need people to show us what it's like to have a free mind, body and creative sprit. He still didn't get it and he did say somewhere in there that he was suprised that Frank was inteligent. Some people just arn't into music it"s in their lives but it not the all consuming play it everyday must get the last album wonder what the next album will be down load Terabites of shity AUD audio grissle, I don't know why, it's like trying to explain Zen to a Christian.
I'm beginning to sense a personality type amoust us the "Zappa Obsessive Proclamatory Personality Educationalist Disorder" I'm sure you know who you are.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:23 am 
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My elder brother got me into liking Frank Zappa at the age of 11 by constantly playing Peaches en Regalia (Fillmore version) when we were on summer holiday in Italy. Eventually I started liking it...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:03 pm 
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Caputh wrote:
My elder brother got me into liking Frank Zappa at the age of 11 by constantly playing Peaches en Regalia (Fillmore version) when we were on summer holiday in Italy. Eventually I started liking it...
well, I can somehow relate to that. my brother (seven years older than I am), kept on playing 'freak out!' and 'absolutely free' all the time.
this was in 1968 and I was 11. made me a zappa fan for life. 8)

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:19 pm 
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I'm in a similar situation with my kids, who are 4 and 1, though I'm trying more to brainwash them than sway their opinion! I play a lot of Zappa hoping one day when they hear a band like Green Day they'll wonder "what is this shit?"

The other day I was listening to LG on disc 2 of LM. During the duodenum part in the beginning, my daughter, who was playing on the floor, stopped what she was doing, looked up and said "I like this music". I was thrilled. Point is, as someone else suggested earlier, just keep playing it when he's around and play various things. Something will catch his ear. Maybe don't tell him it's Zappa so he doesn't have any preconceived ideas.


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My girst love turned me on to Frank Zappa. Her hot friend from the city gave her a We're Only in it for the Money LP...I guess it used to skip over the "god it's god I see god" part...we played the record fove or six times before we heard that part...freaked us out!

Anyhoo...turned on my older brother, and he went for it. I think he understood Frank's satire and sense of humor, whereas I always saw that stuff as Frank's failure to be cool enough for television.

Let's face it, Frank offended a lot of the ordinary sort of people where I come from. He was beyond a line they could not cross. I was a big fan of the music, the social rebellion, and most of the humor...but I have to admit there were times when the pained look on peoples faces made me wish I hadn't put the tape in the tape deck.

Get a good deal on tape.

No, it was many years and I was fully grown before I began to grasp what Frank was all about. I think my brother understood much quicker than I did, and if he wasn't a bigger fan than me, he was a more complete one.

Nowdays my brother is holed up in mom and dad's old house back on the farm. It's awful, I tells ya...


I have two other brothers, both of whom wish that Frank Zappa was dead.


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...but I have to admit there were times when the pained look on peoples faces made me wish I hadn't put the tape in the tape deck.



That was the best part for me. Weasels really pissed people off for some reason. The 200 Motels soundtrack could raise the boiling point also. And Thing-Fish? Fugeddaboutit!

Trout Mask was the king of making people uncomfortable. Most times it wouldn't even get past Frownland before I was told to "shut that shit off and put something good on".

Some people just ain't go no taste.

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Some people got a strange idea of entertainment...


(OUAT, I had a friend come over to my place, because he was too drunk to go home (and face parents!). I sat him down on the couch (stereo center) and put on side 2 of "Weasels". Note: have a bucket ready, if you try this at home!)

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Maybe the Milkman had a extended visit at your house when he was conceived... :smoke:


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Tape deck under little brothers bed in the dead of night a little subliminal shut up and play you guitar combo that'ill learn'em....or burn'em


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