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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:11 am 
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I've been a huge fan of Kate's since "The Kick Inside" and I'm glad that this time with "50 Words For Snow" out next month that there's not a 12 year gap as there was between "The Red Shoes" and "Arial".

Interesting excerpt from a spring interview:

http://www.katebushnews.com/index.php/2 ... with-kate/

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KB: I was very ambitious at that time, maybe over-ambitious. It´s the spaces between the sounds (the original word may have been “nuances”, though a verbal translation does seem Katier) that are more important to me now. Music becomes more and more precious to me, the older I get. That´s why I allow my music to be a bit more vivid and let it breathe.

ML: At the end of the album, it sort of gets out of control. You slur your voice as if drunk, the band is rambling. Do you mean to destroy the myth of Kate Bush?

KB: If the album´s finale sounds like the destruction of a myth, I can be pretty content with your evaluation, because, seriously, on other records there are ideas that were created in a pretty knackered mood. (Here the german translation is irritating, I´m sure she said “knackered” and he translated it into “stupid”.)

ML: But then, your body of works is being discussed as a holy kingdom of pop.

KB: I never challenged or asked for the serious interpretation and evaluation of my music. A sense of quality does not exclude humour.

ML: Do you have an ideal or predecesor for that?

KB: Frank Zappa was a very smart man. He said that, as an artist, you can live a free and untamed life, in case you have a solid family life. I love this idea.

ML: Why?

KB: I´ve never met Zappa, but people who have portray him as a very dear person, different from his image. I have always preferred my privacy over my public life, because I work best with a stable home base. The idea that the artist who suffers ist the best doesn´t apply to me. I work better, when I´m fine.


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Thanks Fred. I also enjoy Kate Bush and have for years. To find out that she has an admiration for FZ is the icing on the cake.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:11 am 
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Thanks Fred. I also enjoy Kate Bush and have for years. To find out that she has an admiration for FZ is the icing on the cake.

Agreed. Cool to come across this.


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This is great to know about her! Love me some Kate, anyway.....would've been an interesting collaboration, doncha think?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:26 pm 
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Nice. Together they would of made beautifull music of course.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:10 am 
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"...as an artist, you can live a free and untamed life, in case you have a solid family life..."

Frank and Kate both made/make a living as artists, so this is easy for them to say. For the artist that is not so fortunate, relying on family makes them a burden. So, they either exhaust their energies working jobs, or they become resented black sheep.

Maybe I'm not reading it correctly. Free and untamed, but bound to family responsibility? While I think it would be great if I had a family to support me while I write my big novel, I know that novel would not be so great if I hadn't gone out on my own and had a few "free and untamed" adventures. I just don't see how a "solid family life" would have fit in with that.

Maybe the statement applies more to painters and musicians than it does to writers.

Anybody out there want to set me up with a room with a view, a few thousand dollars, and about a pound of the good stuff? That's just about the only way my big book will ever get written.

You'll love it. It's a way of life.


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I guess she refers to having a stable family life: no divorces, abusing parents, incest, drugs etc.
(Don't worry Rope, I'm not into Bush either. As soon as I can get a memory wipe for Wuthering Heights I'll be happy.)

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kate bush is kinda cool, but... I don't know, she seems a little bit too pretentious for my taste.
I liked 'hounds of love', but that's about it. still, she's ok, I guess.

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Lumpy Gravy wrote:
kate bush is kinda cool, but... I don't know, she seems a little bit too pretentious for my taste.
I liked 'hounds of love', but that's about it. still, she's ok, I guess.


So, you're a bit of a hound of love are you Lumpy? 8)

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Lumpy Gravy wrote:
kate bush is kinda cool, but... I don't know, she seems a little bit too pretentious for my taste.
I liked 'hounds of love', but that's about it. still, she's ok, I guess.
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So, you're a bit of a hound of love are you Lumpy? 8)
well, I don't know about that... 8)
but, your comment made me remember that I did have a bit of a crush on kate bush for a while, around the time of that album.

I would also like to take back my comment that she's 'pretentious'.
I think I meant to say that her music (and voice) is an aquired taste.
there. put that straight. 8)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:07 pm 
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I like that one she did with Peter Gabriel....Don't Give Up?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:14 pm 
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Kate is great - and she likes Big Eyed Beans From Venus!

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seems every girlfriend from mid 70's to early 80's was into laura nyro or kate bush, so in order to work the wall with these girls, kate &/or laura were on heavy rotation

thanks for posting this

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(plays Laura Nyro)
(switches it off very quickly)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:37 am 
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There is not many artists today that approach music in the way Frank did.
With Kate Bush I find her approach very familiar to Franks.

She is unique like Frank. Her music seems to come from a deeper place just like Franks.
She locks herself away for years working on her art. She's wonderful and rather attractive too!

Really looking forward to her new album and I'm sure I read before she regarded FZ as an influence.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:54 pm 
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calvin2hikers wrote:
I like that one she did with Peter Gabriel....Don't Give Up?


Even better is the song she did with Roy Harper in the album "Unknown Soldier" ... way better, although Peter's is a little more pop oriented for my tastes.


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slime.oofytv.set wrote:
seems every girlfriend from mid 70's to early 80's was into laura nyro or kate bush, so in order to work the wall with these girls, kate &/or laura were on heavy rotation

thanks for posting this


Wow ... where have you guys been?

Rickie Lee Jones and Bonnie Raitt ... and Rickie's first 4 albums are massively well done and outstanding, and she has never been as good and well defined as those albums since then.

Laura Nyro went back to the late 60's when her first album was really important and had a very big hit. She kinda got dumped after her coming out and she was one of the first to do so. And she paid a very tough price for it. Kate is almost 2nd generation next to these other folks, but her work was more literary and well defined which showed her education a lot more than the other three which were more American minded and more rebellious in a musical sense.

I think the comment about Frank is strange and what she was getting on might have been the strong base back home, which she appears to have, and apparently so did Frank. But if Gayle was not open about the whole thing, she probably went with him. She was in Santa Barbara with a contingent of groupies for the Sheik thing ... according to Guy Guden's blog on Frank, a copy of which I poseted in here elsewhere. Which you might also interpret it as Gayle being protective and playing the role?


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Moshkito,who's Gayle? Is it a first name or a last name? Who are you talking about? :?

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Moshkito wrote:
calvin2hikers wrote:
I like that one she did with Peter Gabriel....Don't Give Up?


Even better is the song she did with Roy Harper in the album "Unknown Soldier" ... way better, although Peter's is a little more pop oriented for my tastes.


Hats off to Roy Harper.

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slime.oofytv.set wrote:
seems every girlfriend from mid 70's to early 80's was into laura nyro or kate bush, so in order to work the wall with these girls, kate &/or laura were on heavy rotation

thanks for posting this

Pheobe Snow,Janis Ian,Kate Wolf opened alot of.....ahem...uh..doors for me too! :wink:

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Damn, is that what the trick was? Well, plus, I had absolutely no game.

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kapt.kiirk wrote:
Pheobe Snow,Janis Ian,Kate Wolf opened alot of
and maybe even a little fleetwood mac on the side

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slime.oofytv.set wrote:
kapt.kiirk wrote:
Pheobe Snow,Janis Ian,Kate Wolf opened alot of
and maybe even a little fleetwood mac on the side

"Thunder only happens when it's raining" FM*, they don't get deeper than that. Christine McVie & Stevie Nicks & Hammer time.

*They were such a great blues band. Did you or anyone see Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac? Albatross,Kiln House,Then Play On........ect.?

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