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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:41 am 
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JCB's comment that the Mothers were so well rehearsed and the only one of them that ever messed up is Frank taken from the recent documentary "Zappa / The Mothers in the 1960's".

I love the old Mothers and certainly don't want to encourage any nasty comments about them here but what was JCB thinking of!?!
An example, on the way home from work just now I listened to Ahead of Their Time (a particular favourite of mine) and boy are there some sloppy drums in King Kong, almost out of sync. Also in KK is a particular section that this group seemed to struggle with but I cannot hear exactly whom it was that always messed it up.
On the BBC Sessions it even looks like Underwood may have done. He certainly looks a bit lost. On the Bremen Studios (all from the same period, Oct '68) I think Roy does. Whoever it was, it was pretty sloppy and it certainly wasn't Frank!

Sorry boys....... :mrgreen:

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Frank was big enuff too say he made mistakes last page on Shut up book,I wonder what Trendy say about that when it is supposed too be air sculpture 8)

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:49 pm 
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When I think of 'air sculpture' I think - can of beans and a crowded shopping mall. There's a work of art for ya. :mrgreen:

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When I think of 'air sculpture' I think - can of beans and a crowded shopping mall. There's a work of art for ya. :mrgreen:

:lol: When I think of 'air sculptures' I think of The Canyonlands National Monument/Park in the southwest US or the N.California coast & the Pacific Crest Trail.When I've been to these places I always get a Zappa tune in my head.Is it the music,the place or both? Both make me happy so I figure there's nothing to figure. It just is.Frank never fucks up in my head!!
Now Ayers Rock,thats a very big air sculpture I'd like to experience.I wonder what Zappa song that will bring me?
I also read a Ruth Underwood interview where I believe she say's "He'd give you that stern eyebrows down look when I'd/the band hit a bad note,but if Frank hit the bad note it would pass like no big deal" Thats pretty close to what MS. Underwood said.That interview link is on this site somewhere.Unless your the author,good luck finding it. :wink: :)
Frank never missed a note,he was just re-composing the song! :mrgreen:

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Sam I Am wrote:
When I think of 'air sculpture' I think - can of beans and a crowded shopping mall. There's a work of art for ya. :mrgreen:

Ha ha like Action art Tony Hancock the rebel style.

Tony Hancock The Rebel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_uq3uZmnsY
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KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
Now Ayers Rock,thats a very big air sculpture I'd like to experience.
It's called Uluru now.

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polydigm wrote:
KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
Now Ayers Rock,thats a very big air sculpture I'd like to experience.
It's called Uluru now.



Gidday digger was Ayers Rock, known as Uluru by the Aborigines prior the Brit's christening it, or is it a name cooked up by the blokes in Canberra?


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polydigm wrote:
KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
Now Ayers Rock,thats a very big air sculpture I'd like to experience.
It's called Uluru now.

Gone native has it,what! I know there's another big fucking air sculptured red rock down under,some say it's bigger and better.I can't remember it's name and now it's likely changed that name too! Poly? A little help please? There's only two of those mammoth monoliths I beleive.Both are very 8) !

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:50 pm 
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In 1993, a dual naming policy was adopted that allowed official names that consist of both the traditional Aboriginal name and the English name. On 15 December 1993, it was renamed "Ayers Rock / Uluru" and became the first official dual-named feature in the Northern Territory. The order of the dual names was officially reversed to "Uluru / Ayers Rock" on 6 November 2002 following a request from the Regional Tourism Association in Alice Springs.

The same thing happened with Kata Tjuta / Mount Olga.

Anyway, they're both part of the same thing.

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polydigm wrote:
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In 1993, a dual naming policy was adopted that allowed official names that consist of both the traditional Aboriginal name and the English name. On 15 December 1993, it was renamed "Ayers Rock / Uluru" and became the first official dual-named feature in the Northern Territory. The order of the dual names was officially reversed to "Uluru / Ayers Rock" on 6 November 2002 following a request from the Regional Tourism Association in Alice Springs.

The same thing happened with Kata Tjuta / Mount Olga.

Anyway, they're both part of the same thing.

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Thats really cool Mr.Poly! I like Kata Tjuta a little more,I don't know why.Is that where "THAT DINGO'S GOT YOUR BABY" happend? Anyway,since I was a kid the geological history of Australia has always fascinated me.Thanks for posting that. 8)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:11 am 
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KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
polydigm wrote:
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In 1993, a dual naming policy was adopted that allowed official names that consist of both the traditional Aboriginal name and the English name. On 15 December 1993, it was renamed "Ayers Rock / Uluru" and became the first official dual-named feature in the Northern Territory. The order of the dual names was officially reversed to "Uluru / Ayers Rock" on 6 November 2002 following a request from the Regional Tourism Association in Alice Springs.

The same thing happened with Kata Tjuta / Mount Olga.

Anyway, they're both part of the same thing.

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Thats really cool Mr.Poly! I like Kata Tjuta a little more,I don't know why.Is that where "THAT DINGO'S GOT YOUR BABY" happend? Anyway,since I was a kid the geological history of Australia has always fascinated me.Thanks for posting that. 8)


It's all that pot you smoke Kapt :mrgreen:

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polydigm wrote:

Anyway, they're both part of the same thing.

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>Hey, ain't that a mountain under the beach? :wink:

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You do realize that all musicians mess up? Right? The only time you don't hear it is on recordings. (Sometimes even then.....)
Zappa sometimes played shitty solo's too.
He's one of my favorite musicians, but sometimes live he was so in it that it was the most amazing thing I've ever seen, to just not good. Although in comparison to other music out there, Zappa at his worst is most at their best.


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It's all that pot you smoke Kapt :mrgreen:

Plook has made it cool to make negative remarks about pot smoking on this forum.Mine inpaticuliar.( I believe he would smoke pot all the time if Redbulls & Booze didn't get in the way or he didn't have to test for work! :mrgreen: ) As with anything in life,if you over indulge on/in anything it will hurt you.Now if you compare my posts with Apotheosis' posts,(he likes to bragg about the pot he's got to smoke in PM's,I can send them to you),you can see there is a big difference in staying stoned alone at home (it leads to paranoia & Tea Baggers & male on male porn postings) and casual use.Like (social) twice on the weekends kind of use.(it leads to getting laid)There is also a medicinal use for Marijuana and after 5 major back sugeries I like it for muscle spasms and it helps me sleep.I can't remember a time where I went out of my way to get it or grow it.Now I know Apotheosis is growing a bunch on his Freedum Ranch in ORE..I'm not.But you kid me why? Because I can take it or it doesn't bother me? Try that on Apotheosis.He will scream like a stuck Banchee! Then Plook and the rest of you will have a good laugh,the one you've been trained to have,by the Media,the news,your school,your parents.Don't forget The Establishment you work for(They brought us 5 wars since WWII) but pots the worse problem,does that sound right?
I'm not mad at you noisydrum.It's the hypocrisy of it all. :wink:
There has never been anyone so blind as those who refuse to see!
Edit: Thanks Arkay,I fixed it.

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Well said. Except for the, ya know, hypocrity, but thats awrite. ;)

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On the issue of pot smoking.
I used to do it a lot in my late teens and early 20's. Someone very close to me used to grow it so it was free. I soon discovered that pot made me paranoid though I continued to do it even after that revelation (peer pressure is a bitch). I eventually quit pot for good by the time I was 25. Occasionally I will take a hit when someone offers now but mostly I decline because I know I will experience that paranoia. The only time I don't (experience paranoia) is when I've already been drinking. From my late teens I have also indulged in alcohol consumption. I like alcohol. Sometimes I drink too much and have a hangover but I am fairly responsible with it ( I think I've called in sick with a hangover maybe three times in 24 years in the workplace). Everybody reacts to pot and alcohol (and other drugs) differently. To each their own. I don't think it's fair to dump on Kapt. Kiirk or anyone else for their personal preferences. My guess is that most of us imbibe in some way or another.


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KillUgly2 wrote:
Everybody reacts to pot and alcohol (and other drugs) differently. To each their own.
I don't think it's fair to dump on Kapt. Kiirk or anyone else for their personal preferences.
My guess is that most of us imbibe in some way or another.
well said. 8)

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Lumpy Gravy wrote:
KillUgly2 wrote:
Everybody reacts to pot and alcohol (and other drugs) differently. To each their own.
I don't think it's fair to dump on Kapt. Kiirk or anyone else for their personal preferences.
My guess is that most of us imbibe in some way or another.
well said. 8)

Thank you both.What started out as harmless fun,and I can take that,makes people think I have nothing to say.Why? Because they've been taught all along by the media,polititions,teachers(not you Poly)and all official speaking people that pot is bad therefore anyone who has long hair and smokes pot is useless,don't pay any attention to him kinda shit.The ones who are dangerous are the short haired normal looking recluses that are growing it for profit like >(Apotheosis) Then they use the money to save the country.That means they push some political agenda on you,whether you want it or not.Remember the "WE ARE RIGHT" and "CAN YOU SAY ASS" post and all the bigoted remarks with that male/porn poster Diesel Dummy aka Arch Obolar.Thats what ya buy into when your taught how to think and act,and can't think and act for yourself.

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