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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:13 pm 
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I'd just like to thank the puritan forefathers of the United States of America, without whom we wouldnt have the music of Frank Zappa.
Without their puritan ways there wouldnt have been the right enviroment for a talent like Frank to emerge.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:25 am 
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Not sure where you're coming from on this one. Care to expand?


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Sarcasm I presume... :smoke:


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Not sure if this is the exact intent of the original poster, but in some sense he is correct. Without the puritanical leanings that have permeated our culture since it's inception, Zappa, along with many other rebelious types, would not have the same targets of rebelion to respond to.

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duchamp wrote:
Not sure if this is the exact intent of the original poster, but in some sense he is correct. Without the puritanical leanings that have permeated our culture since it's inception, Zappa, along with many other rebelious types, would not have the same targets of rebelion to respond to.



Yes that's what I was getting at. Not sure a liberal society would have been the crucible that would have allowed for the expression of his talent in the form it manifested itself.


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tupong wrote:
duchamp wrote:
Not sure if this is the exact intent of the original poster, but in some sense he is correct. Without the puritanical leanings that have permeated our culture since it's inception, Zappa, along with many other rebelious types, would not have the same targets of rebelion to respond to.



Yes that's what I was getting at. Not sure a liberal society would have been the crucible that would have allowed for the expression of his talent in the form it manifested itself.



I'm not sure about that, I don't know if Frank did not have that same attitude as George Carlin, Fuck everybody your all screwed up, he sure did a number on the bastion of the left (the hippie movement and flower power) in The Adventures of Greggery Peccary. Both Frank and George reminded me of that Groucho Marx line, I would never join a club that would have me as a member…

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I think the hypocrisy of the times and the values that, that society based its laws on, played a major role in the revolution that happened during the period of the late 50's and onwards. Without the closed minded and puritan ways that where prevelant during that period we may not have had people like Frank tyring to expose the hypocrisy ?


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tupong wrote:
I think the hypocrisy of the times and the values that, that society based its laws on, played a major role in the revolution that happened during the period of the late 50's and onwards. Without the closed minded and puritan ways that where prevelant during that period we may not have had people like Frank tyring to expose the hypocrisy ?



Yes true to an extent, but Frank was busy showing everyones dirty underwear...an equal opportunity exposer so to speak, he had equal disdian for the counter culture as he had for the conservative culture...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:44 pm 
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I can't think of many songs in which Zappa points out his own faults. I mean, as righteous as it is to give the crabs to everyone in Laurel Canyon, and to put people down for getting high (even though he was smoking endless cigarettes and drinking coffee all day) he must have had a couple of introspective moments of self doubt.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:54 pm 
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At least I'm sure what was the intent of the original post, thank you Mr Pong. Very interesting point. I'm sure FZ would still have been some kind of success just with a different edge to cut.

Edited due to a change in circumstances.


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I thought he was refering to the makers of 'Puratin', some kind of Claritin knock-off antihistamine.

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Sam I Am wrote:
I thought he was refering to the makers of 'Puratin', some kind of Claritin knock-off antihistamine.



Maybe its take out cat food...Pur ate in... :mrgreen:

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The spelling corrections have been made for all the pedants


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My anagram still holds right, though...

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tupong wrote:
The spelling corrections have been made for all the pedants


Maybe you went to one of them fancy learnin' barns, but ain't no way you're gonna lump us in with Roy Estrada!

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calvin2hikers wrote:
tupong wrote:
The spelling corrections have been made for all the pedants


Maybe you went to one of them fancy learnin' barns, but ain't no way you're gonna lump us in with Roy Estrada!

Don't be so childish!

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just plain doug wrote:
calvin2hikers wrote:
tupong wrote:
The spelling corrections have been made for all the pedants


Maybe you went to one of them fancy learnin' barns, but ain't no way you're gonna lump us in with Roy Estrada!

Don't be so childish!



Have you looked at his avatar lately... :smoke:


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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
My anagram still holds right, though...

That's a relief. I thought maybe you were have an episode.

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