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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 5:55 am 
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I really fail to see how anything I said about Broken Hearts are for Assholes qualifies me as sad or depressed or negative...and yet you call me a "tragic figure".

It's amazing how much communication goes on between forum posters and how little personal knowledge is actually passed between them.

I deny any negative propensities. I am a realist...I see the world as it is, not as some sort of candy coated popcorn. My life is chaotic and uncertain, but not too boring. A tragic figure, I am not.

All I said was Broken Hearts are for Assholes is about getting pounded in the ass...the innuendo being that having your heart broke is the equivalent of anal sex. Some folks like it.

That is all.


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A rope leash wrote:
I really fail to see how anything I said about Broken Hearts are for Assholes qualifies me as sad or depressed or negative...and yet you call me a "tragic figure".

It's amazing how much communication goes on between forum posters and how little personal knowledge is actually passed between them.

I deny any negative propensities. I am a realist...I see the world as it is, not as some sort of candy coated popcorn. My life is chaotic and uncertain, but not too boring. A tragic figure, I am not.

All I said was Broken Hearts are for Assholes is about getting pounded in the ass...the innuendo being that having your heart broke is the equivalent of anal sex. Some folks like it.

That is all.


OMG DUDE, you need to accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative!!!! Just like Bing said!!!

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calvin2hikers wrote:
A rope leash wrote:
I really fail to see how anything I said about Broken Hearts are for Assholes qualifies me as sad or depressed or negative...and yet you call me a "tragic figure".

It's amazing how much communication goes on between forum posters and how little personal knowledge is actually passed between them.

I deny any negative propensities. I am a realist...I see the world as it is, not as some sort of candy coated popcorn. My life is chaotic and uncertain, but not too boring. A tragic figure, I am not.

All I said was Broken Hearts are for Assholes is about getting pounded in the ass...the innuendo being that having your heart broke is the equivalent of anal sex. Some folks like it.

That is all.


OMG DUDE, you need to accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative!!!! Just like Bing said!!!



Ya you better try the Candy Coated Popcorn, IMHO it doesn't seem like this taken it in the ass to be tragic thing is working for you... :smoke:


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:04 pm 
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I should listen to less DEVO.

Funny: my swelling, itching brain is saying the exact opposite.

It's a beautiful world...

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:56 pm 
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a rope leash wrote:
... Broken Hearts are for Assholes is about getting pounded in the ass...the innuendo being that having your heart broke is the equivalent of anal sex...
then he woulda named it assholes are for broken hearts

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:41 am 
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My new question is from the very end of Joe' Garage:

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try this recipe: We'll start with a lump of grass . . . the grass bone connected to the ankle bone . . . the knee bone connected to the wishbone . . . and then everybody moves to New York and goes to a party with Warren. Hey!


Grass bone? Ankle bone?... why, what for, what is it?...


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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:09 am 
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balint wrote:
Grass bone? Ankle bone?...
Image ... from an old song, with grass bone related to he used to cut the grass



could also be related to the milton bradley game operation


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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:10 pm 
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Oh, a ong! :-) Thanx, I didn't know that!

But.. why "grass bone", where does it come from?...


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:29 pm 
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Hi all,

I have some questions on Beauty Knows No Pain. As usual: I get the whole idea, but the tiny little details.... So, here they are:

- Even if yer plain / You could be tryin' it out - try out what? there was not "doing something" in the previous part of the song...
- Your head is north, your feet is south - I've only found this sentence in a.) this FZ-tune and b.) in a text about lot of people sleeping in tents (maybe), with their "heads to north and feet to south" - what is it for, here?
- And you save the rest for Charlie's Mouth - ?....

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slime.oofytv.set wrote:
balint wrote:
Grass bone? Ankle bone?...
Image ... from an old song, with grass bone related to he used to cut the grass



could also be related to the milton bradley game operation


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Some fine grain Zappalogy, ladies and gents...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:59 pm 
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balint wrote:
Hi all,

I have some questions on Beauty Knows No Pain. As usual: I get the whole idea, but the tiny little details.... So, here they are:

- Even if yer plain / You could be tryin' it out - try out what? there was not "doing something" in the previous part of the song...
- Your head is north, your feet is south - I've only found this sentence in a.) this FZ-tune and b.) in a text about lot of people sleeping in tents (maybe), with their "heads to north and feet to south" - what is it for, here?
- And you save the rest for Charlie's Mouth - ?....

thanks!


Even if yer plain / You could be tryin' it out - I believe this refers to the "bikini wax/colored pencil etc." portion that come after. As in, even if you are plain looking, you could try all of this makeup and other changes to make you look beautiful.

Your head is north, your feet is south - I think this refers to the guy being so dumb that he needs the cardinal directions to identify where his head and feet are.

And you save the rest for Charlies enormous mouth - as in, his male member is going to go into Charlie's enormous mouth.

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balint / calvin2hikers / slime.o wrote:
... Even if yer plain / You could be tryin' it out
- try out what? there was not "doing something" in the previous part of the song...


I believe this refers to the "bikini wax/colored pencil etc." portion that come after.
As in, even if you are plain looking, you could try all of this makeup and other changes to make you look beautiful.


tryin it out ... try out some stupid game on the beautiful guy [tennis/jogging], by painting their plain face with plastic goo




... Your head is north, your feet is south - I've only found this sentence in
a) this FZ-tune; and
b) in a text about lot of people sleeping in tents (maybe), with their "heads to north and feet to south"
- what is it for, here?


I think this refers to the guy being so dumb that he needs the cardinal directions to identify where his head and feet are.

lube from the north
lube from the south
take a little slober
from the side of [charlie's] mouth



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A classic quote from a Scottish detective/murder show I like to watch. Try to imagine the scottish accent if you can while reading it.

"You couldn't find your own arse if it sat on your face".

That "you could be trying it out" thing could be trying out pain.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:35 pm 
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hm, thanks all, guys! :-)


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Okay, now somebody explain Pena by Captain Beefheart to me.

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polydigm wrote:
..."You couldn't find your own arse if it sat on your face"...

that finally explains how your arsehole could be winkin at you ¿

you might pretend you ain't got one on the bottom of you
but don't fool yerself girl
it's lookin' at you

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Hi all again,

my next question is on Our Bizarre Relationship from Uncle Meat.

- just one note: the text suggests that each night FZ had a different girl in his bed - that's a bit unlikely to me, since he was married already at that time. What do you think?
- the question: "Elmer and Phil, because they were too sick to ball" - can "ball" be "having sex" here (as 'urbandictionary' suggests, or?...) And what can "sick" exactly be here?
- Elmer has a mentality of approximately One Peanut. Possibly. - ?...
- "he didn't see how anyone could ever make it that insisted on saying FUCK on stage." - I think I undertand it, but not sure. That middle part confuses me a bit.

I've find a note where FZ say that Suzy Creamsheese lives only in his imagination. Does it mean that all that above is just part of that fantasy - using real names?...

thanks!!!


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balint wrote:
Hi all again,

my next question is on Our Bizarre Relationship from Uncle Meat.

- just one note: the text suggests that each night FZ had a different girl in his bed - that's a bit unlikely to me, since he was married already at that time. What do you think?
I figure it's an improvised rock-star tale. Partly fact, partly fiction.
- the question: "Elmer and Phil, because they were too sick to ball" - can "ball" be "having sex" here (as 'urbandictionary' suggests, or?...) And what can "sick" exactly be here?
Yes, ball means having sex. Also, being over 40, but still hanging out with the younger crowd probably left Phil and Elmer too drunk/hungover to move much.
- Elmer has a mentality of approximately One Peanut. Possibly. - ?...
Elmer Valentine, co-founder of the Whiskey-A-Go-Go, was not quick at understanding things.
- "he didn't see how anyone could ever make it that insisted on saying FUCK on stage." - I think I undertand it, but not sure. That middle part confuses me a bit.
A performer won't become popular enough to be famous, if he wasn't a nice, family-type person on stage.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:51 am 
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Wow, I'm getting closer, thanks! :-)


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just plain doug wrote:
I figure it's an improvised rock-star tale. Partly fact, partly fiction.


thinking on this, this is strange, anyway. Most of the "built-in stories" had some (large amount) of truth in them: Jeff Simmons quitting the band, the hotel-stories in '74, etc. So this story popping up on an album, telling a story (supposedly about FZ, with all real characters and places, like: Laurel Canyon) that girls come in and out of his bed in 1967-68, with dirt and fleas and crabs... Just seems to be straaaaaaange. To me.


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The Air (Uncle Meat album)

An interesting song... what is is about? Sometimes seems to me that a conflict at the customs, a fight with the gurads, in slow motion.. :-)

Or? What dou you think? I'm interested in every little detail - what do you think?


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Second part of "The Air" quite obviously refers to FZ' incarceration in 1965 on the false porn charges.

Now I've got a question too: in the anti-rock-critics rant "Packard Goose" FZ implies that any critic who's got enough sense would actually put down his pen and "have himself a squat on a cosmic utensil". Now what could that refer to?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:28 am 
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balint wrote:
Your head is north, your feet is south

I always thought that means being dead and being buried in a certain alignment.

Th.

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Ed Organus Maximus wrote:
in the anti-rock-critics rant "Packard Goose" FZ implies that any critic who's got enough sense would actually put down his pen and "have himself a squat on a cosmic utensil". Now what could that refer to?

The answer might (?) be in Bobby Brown (source):

(Reporter) There is some funny words in the song and I asked him what Tower of Power is. Considering my old aunt I let Zappa himself explain the word.
(FZ) The Tower of Power is a..... You know what S & M is?
(Reporter) Yeah
(FZ) It's a S & M device that they sell at a store in Los Angeles. It's a stool... small stool, You know to sit on. That has this spindle that comes up, that's sticks up Your asshole and it has straps on the legs of the stool where You supposed to put a persons ankle into the straps on the edge of the stool. And they actually sell this thing here and it's called the Tower of Power.


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I'm reading / listenning to Mudd Club right now, and there are some parts taht are hard for me to understand - grammatically (full of "to", "from", "for", etc...):

Quote:
And then a guy with a blue mohawk comes in
In Serious Leather . . .
(And all the rest of whom for which
To whensonever of partially indeterminate
Bio-chemical degradation


Quote:
Serious Clothing
From when they come downtown
From the ruins of Studio '54
To twist 'n frugg
In an arrogant gesture
To the best of what the 20th Century has to offer

I almost understand it, but... do I?...


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