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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:02 am 
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Made some new Zappa translations from newspapers stored in the Royal Dutch Library.
http://packardgoose.ploeg.ws/interactive/forums/Files/viewthread.php?tid=559

Some notable concert reviews and real odd stories:

8-12-89
There's resistance against Phil Collins playing on May 4th, which is Remembrance Day in The Netherlands, when all WW2 victims are being remembered with 2 minutes of silence at 8 o'clock. The article states that in the FZ concert of 4 May 1988, there were two minutes of silence at 20:00.

2 Nov 79 Amigoe
"Angry fans of the American pop phenomenon Frank Zappa blew up the toilet in his house. As a revenge because Zappa refused to give an encore during a concert in his residential city."

And much more!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:31 am 
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Well done, Beeps... 8)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:02 am 
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Quite agree. Nice to have "new" articles to read about him.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:11 pm 
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Hi,

Only got half way those ... some comments:

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3 Dec 1971 De Waarheid
Review of 200 Motels record that calls it a chaotic circus.

14 Jan 1972 De Waarheid:
in cinema announcements, 200 Motels is briefly reviewed as a lengthy rush hour, much ado about nothing.


Both of these comments make sense to a great extent. The problem is that if they are taken out of context, they will make things not sound good, or make it sound like it is saying that it is bad, as the chaotic circus comment suggests.

The funny line much ado about nothing is actually with it, and would be something that even Frank might have appreciated if he were given to quoting Shakespeare, which he wasn't!

200 Motels, can be reviewed ... TODAY ... much better than it would have been almost 40 years ago, when the TV was plastic, the music was mostly garbage on the AM radio, and the politics in Washington were so bad and corrupt ... (has it changed since?) ... and an acid trip through nowhere land, or Wonderland, would be just fine and fun ... in fact, if that Burton acid$hole had any guts, the next movie would be 200 Motels, and this time, the film would make sense and the whole thing would come alive ... and you would go ... wow ... I really missed out. It's hard to explain that 200 Motels is a VISUAL Revolution #9 all the way to the end ... you turn on the microphone and you go in any direction ... over there you hear a radio ... over there a tv ... over there a commercial ... over there some classical music or soundtrack ... over there some people talking about nookie ... so, when you think about it and Frank making fun of this as the groupie thing trip, is almost like ... they are too stoned to know the difference anyway, and the cacophony is all they will get in their minds ... but NOOOOOOO ... we look at it, say it's weird, and don't like it, and some folks, of course, think that this film is a threat to their ability to go poop in the night on a clean toilet!

The problem is ... I'm not a newspaper "article" and anything I say ... is not going anywhere and won't get printed anywhere else, and no one here gives a shit enough, sometimes I think that Dweezil and Gail themselves don't ... (different story) ... to help make a lot of this stuff as important as it needs to be ... so an a$$hyki$$ing name that wrote a "biography" will get a lot more attention than comments like these that are far more important to the value of the artist and his work!

America hates "literary discussion" and "criticism" ... you know why? ... because it debunks their religion and belief system ... and guess what Frank was always attacking ... and appreciating that discussion, even though sometimes it is way out there ... in all fields of literature ... you ought to see some of the literary discussion and criticisms on my dad -- some are so way off it's not funny! ... is important ... but not something that Gail, Dweezil, Moon Unit or anyone else around them, is capable of appreciating, or worse ... ever understanding!

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8 Jan 1972 waarheid:
Negative review on the Rolf-Ulrich Kaiser-book,calls it sickening.
...


This is bizarre, considering some of the things that this guy was doing and how much money he was stealing from the musicians he bought dope for and had them play without them even knowing it.

The other hard liner on this is the one with Klaus Schulze all the time, the Klaus D. Muller guy, that when you read about his, his music tastes are so mundane and off the wall, that it is almost impossible to make the connection between him and KS.

For the "german audience" ... if there is such a thing as a "generic" audience, this is definitly a weird one, but then, you gonna tell me that Peter Handke's word plays were any better, or less wierd? ... or that Fassbinder turning on the camera and letting actors fall apart and die in front of it without any more words to give you ... is any better, or less weird? In the end, Frank Zappa was a great influence and inspiration to FAUST ... and the conglomeration of weird stuff they do in a few albums is no less interesting or strange, with one exception ... Frank's example has LYRICS that supposedly are at times naughty and rough ... and it supposedly gives the tune a "meaning" ... Faust, intentionally made a juggle of the lyrics so they did not have a "meaning" per se, which was something that Burroughs (Naked Lunch), Brian Eno, David Bowie and many others were doing at the time ... which made for music ... material ... that had ... no meaning? ... and you spent your time looking for some!

Rolf's comments are likely to be misunderstood as well. Specially when all the stuff he did, was STRICTLY free form improvisations that had no lyrics, with one exception ... the sexy voice of his girlfriend ... making romantic, sexy remarks and specially talking nicely and well about Tim Leary ... who must have bed'ed all the ladies over there that got these guys all mad in the first place -- but they won't admit it! As such a wide open improvisation, which Amon Duul was also doing, as was Guru Guru and Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze, Frank's music, by comparison, would not be considered strong, and in most cases might even be deduced to be just pop music upside down. I'll take a look at Peter Michael Hamel's book "From the Music to the Self", because in my estimation he would appreciate the compositional stuff, and probably trash the pop song satires.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:16 pm 
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excellent work, thanks ... more good stuff, in an easily readable & uniquely dutch style


the previously translated series of hitweek & leeuwarder courants will soon appear on afka.net; are these direct translations from the scans, or first ocr'd to dutch text ¿

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:05 pm 
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Direct translations from the scans.

The KB has a search engine that looks for the word you enter in visual form, and it messed up on only 1 article out of 513: but I did end up in the porn hotline section because of that.
It's therefore very well possible that there are newspapers that it missed.

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