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 Post subject: JAZZ!
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:55 pm 
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who knows if zappa was a real jazz lover? i mean of course you can hear a lot of the stuff he played was infected with jazz. but i am also a huge jazz lover and if any body else is out there who also loves zappa would like to dicuss! i can most surely hear eric dolphy, andrew hill, grachan moncur III, and even later miles davis in franks music. i happen to love throwing on hot rats, waka jawaka, grand wazoo, or various parts of whatever for other jazz or jazz fusion for friends of mine and they are flabbergasted by the musicianship of frans ensemble.


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sunglassesafterdark! wrote:
who knows if zappa was a real jazz lover? i mean of course you can hear a lot of the stuff he played was infected with jazz.


Interesting wording there :lol:

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I was raised on Jazz and have a Son who has been only playing guitar for 1-1/2 years and is the star of his middle school jazz band. I am particularly fond of swing and 70's fusion but I do love Miles and Monk and Silver and all that be bop stuff too but a lot of my favorite tunes i don't know the name of since I usually listen to my iPod while walking or reading.

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i have heard some horace silver but i was not that impressed, same with jimmy smith. for some reason i feel these 2 guys were very conceited (if thats the right spelling) and repetative, and not to judge book by its cover, but i always loved everybodys blue note covers, but they always had the worst boring covers.


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Well, this is fairly mindblowing. Found over at Zappateers:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfJQsdacMI


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brainpang wrote:
Well, this is fairly mindblowing. Found over at Zappateers:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfJQsdacMI


Holy crap!


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Great Hampton video, if you like that check out Mike Mainieri, Milt Jackson, Bobby hutcherson, Dave Samuels... or maybe George Benson,body Talk. Then get into Freddie Hubbard ,Sky Dive. And if that don't get you going , finish with Roland Kirk ,Prepare thyself to deal with a miracle.

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brainpang wrote:
Well, this is fairly mindblowing. Found over at Zappateers:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfJQsdacMI


oooo....thanks for the link.


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brainpang wrote:
Well, this is fairly mindblowing. Found over at Zappateers:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfJQsdacMI


Strictly commercial?! :shock:

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I used to have the Lionel Hampton Buddy Rich album on vinyl. I love early jazz like that and grew up hearing it from my Mom. Really you don't like Horace Silver? Sister Sadie is one of my favorite songs!

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
brainpang wrote:
Well, this is fairly mindblowing. Found over at Zappateers:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfJQsdacMI


Strictly commercial?! :shock:


What's strange is that I've always thought that that was a very typical Zappa thing, and now I know he's quoted it? Just goes to show how important "eyebrows" really are.


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ha ha lmao

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Huck_Phlem wrote:
I used to have the Lionel Hampton Buddy Rich album on vinyl. I love early jazz like that and grew up hearing it from my Mom. Really you don't like Horace Silver? Sister Sadie is one of my favorite songs!

I was lucky enough to see Lionel Hampton at a resort in Downingtown, PA when I was about 12 and he was a big influence. I honestly think thats what got me into Jazz.

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
brainpang wrote:
Well, this is fairly mindblowing. Found over at Zappateers:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfJQsdacMI


Strictly commercial?! :shock:


:shock:
sounds the same!?

is it!?


I'm starting to ask my self, what did zappa actaully wrote :cry:

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Flea wrote:
Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
brainpang wrote:
Well, this is fairly mindblowing. Found over at Zappateers:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfJQsdacMI


Strictly commercial?! :shock:


:shock:
sounds the same!?

is it!?


I'm starting to ask my self, what did zappa actaully wrote :cry:
yes that's right, let's have a knee-jerk reaction.

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"Jazz is not dead; it just smells funny." - FZ at The Roxy in LA (December 1973)

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Flea wrote:
I'm starting to ask my self, what did zappa actaully wrote :cry:


Great artists all seem to do it - they call it 'being inspired by'. Dylan, Picasso, Shakespeare - he didn't write Romeo and Juliet, he ripped off some other guy's poem and re-wrote it. (and made something great out of something ordinary)


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Flea wrote:
Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
brainpang wrote:
Well, this is fairly mindblowing. Found over at Zappateers:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfJQsdacMI


Strictly commercial?! :shock:


:shock:
sounds the same!?

is it!?


I'm starting to ask my self, what did zappa actaully wrote :cry:


Zappa wrote whatever was on his albums.
Ask yourself if listening to the above and listening to the Yellow Snow Suite is the same experience, and you'll have your answer.


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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
brainpang wrote:
Well, this is fairly mindblowing. Found over at Zappateers:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfJQsdacMI


Strictly commercial?! :shock:


What's strange is that I've always thought that that was a very typical Zappa thing, and now I know he's quoted it? Just goes to show how important "eyebrows" really are.

Check out the Donlope web site, he has this information on this particular quote if you look up Nanook Rubs It but he also has this kind of info going across FZ's entire repertoire. A very informative web site.

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And let us not forget:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0JV_CjSptw


Oh punky!!!


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And let us not forget:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0JV_CjSptw


Oh punky!!!


Wow! And that is my favourite section on that song!!! Always surprising...

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The Palladium, NYC
December 26, 27, 28 and 29, 1976


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Lionel used to live across the street from Lincoln Center, he had a fire destroy everything a few years ago. I used to see him all the time on the Upper West Side being pushed around in a wheelchair. He played at the tree lighting ceremony at LS once and Jon Faddis was the 'director' of the gig. Once Lionel started soloing no one could get him to stop.


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Frank loved Oliver Nelson's album, The Blues and the Abstract Truth. I like it, but it's sometimes a little hokey for me...


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