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 Post subject: I must Have More E Bow
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:35 pm 
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Not a great genesis fan at all, but I like this, steve hackett on ebow.
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Heroes?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:52 pm 
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I don't think Fripp used an eBow on 'St Elmo's Fire', that's just pure Les Paul sustain
Same with 'Heroes', check the King Crimson live version to see how Fripp did it
It's just sustain, distortion, a Les Paul, and of course Fripp's fingers

Heroes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNK-jtx3OGY

It has often been speculated that Robert Fripp once used the e-bow, a device that enables the electric guitar to achieve long sustain. After the issue generated a long debate in ET, Mr. Fripp himself addressed the question in his DGM diary:

"Response to ET:
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 11:53:42 -0400 From: Joseph Shelby Subject: ebow <*other bands/artists that feature the ebow in action include Big Country and David Bowie (its how the main guitar sound is generated in "Heroes", both studio and most live versions I've seen...)>
I have never used an e-bow professionally, and almost never otherwise. Chris Stein (of Blondie) gave me one c.1978 when we were chums in NYC. But "Heroes" was simply a Les Paul, Marshall cabinet and a way of working."


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:38 pm 
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mutronboy wrote:
I don't think Fripp used an eBow on 'St Elmo's Fire', that's just pure Les Paul sustain
Same with 'Heroes', check the King Crimson live version to see how Fripp did it
It's just sustain, distortion, a Les Paul, and of course Fripp's fingers

Heroes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNK-jtx3OGY

It has often been speculated that Robert Fripp once used the e-bow, a device that enables the electric guitar to achieve long sustain. After the issue generated a long debate in ET, Mr. Fripp himself addressed the question in his DGM diary:

"Response to ET:
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 11:53:42 -0400 From: Joseph Shelby Subject: ebow <*other bands/artists that feature the ebow in action include Big Country and David Bowie (its how the main guitar sound is generated in "Heroes", both studio and most live versions I've seen...)>
I have never used an e-bow professionally, and almost never otherwise. Chris Stein (of Blondie) gave me one c.1978 when we were chums in NYC. But "Heroes" was simply a Les Paul, Marshall cabinet and a way of working."


Damn Fripp, proving me wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: "heroes"
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we already had carlos's beautiful lines, like the bass line that was doubled on the guitar as well as the melodic part on the pre-chorus, and when fripp came along about a week later he added a whole other dimension. he and eno had already enjoyed a long partnership where fripp would plug his guitar into the ems synthi and brian would just play around with it, so fripp did exactly that and he came up with that beautiful line which everyone thinks is an e-bow sound, but which is actually just fripp standing in the right place with his volume up at the right level and getting feedback.

everyone who's played the song with bowie since then has had to use an e-bow to duplicate it, but fripp had a technique in those days where he measured the distance between the guitar and the speaker where each note would feed back. for instance, an 'a' would feed back maybe at about four feet from the speaker, whereas a 'g' would feed back maybe three and a half feet from it. he had a strip that they would place on the floor, and when he was playing the note 'f' sharp he would stand on the strip's 'f' sharp point and 'f' sharp would feed back better. he really worked this out to a fine science, and we were playing this at a terrific level in the studio, too. it was very, very loud, and all the while he was playing these notes — that beautiful overhead line — eno was turning the dials and creating a new envelope and just playing with the filter bank. we did three takes of that, and although one take would sound very patchy, three takes had all of these filter changes and feedback blending into that very smooth, haunting, overlaying melody which you hear.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:55 pm 
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mutronboy wrote:
I don't think Fripp used an eBow on 'St Elmo's Fire', that's just pure Les Paul sustain
Same with 'Heroes', check the King Crimson live version to see how Fripp did it
It's just sustain, distortion, a Les Paul, and of course Fripp's fingers

Heroes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNK-jtx3OGY

It has often been speculated that Robert Fripp once used the e-bow, a device that enables the electric guitar to achieve long sustain. After the issue generated a long debate in ET, Mr. Fripp himself addressed the question in his DGM diary:

"Response to ET:
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 11:53:42 -0400 From: Joseph Shelby Subject: ebow <*other bands/artists that feature the ebow in action include Big Country and David Bowie (its how the main guitar sound is generated in "Heroes", both studio and most live versions I've seen...)>
I have never used an e-bow professionally, and almost never otherwise. Chris Stein (of Blondie) gave me one c.1978 when we were chums in NYC. But "Heroes" was simply a Les Paul, Marshall cabinet and a way of working."


Thanks, man. And I used Fripp as my example when I started this thread! Perhaps I should go fix that in case an impressionable music fan reads it but doesn't read the whole thread.

Now I'm wondering if Bill Nelson ever used an ebow?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:02 pm 
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Interesting read on fripp and feedback!

You guys should remind yourselves how Frank constructed FILTHY HABITS.
He was a master at feedback as well.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:57 pm 
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I tried to play Filthy Habits in the band years ago, it was fun!
I got a reasonable approximation of the backwards guitar by using the reverse setting on a Boss SE-70 box
I'm sure lots of multieffects would have that sound built in these days...as well as the Ship Ahoy effect!


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thy must have more kindergarden


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Steve Hackett - Carpet Crawlers

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Steve's guitar has an e bow built into one of the pick-ups. But you already knew that.


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