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 Post subject: Re: The Best album ever
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:31 pm 
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[quote author=Disco Boy link=board=rant;num=1056024787;start=45#53 date=07/13/03 at 22:48:44][tt]<br><br>What does that have to do with anything? Really, what does Money and opening a gate have to do with each other? ???<br><br><br><br>[/tt][/quote]<br><br>Have you actually seen The Wizard of OZ?  The Wizard's castle is a place of immense riches.  You can't understand how they work together by reading a synopsis and comparing it to the content of the album, you have to play them both at the same time.  Trust me on this.


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 Post subject: Re: The Best album ever
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 9:24 pm 
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[quote author=r_a_Z_Z link=board=rant;num=1056024787;start=45#45 date=07/13/03 at 17:20:10]Am I the only person that thinks In The Court Of The Crimson King is better than Dark Side Of The Moon?  ???[/quote]no, just a minority:<br>
  • In The Court Of The Crimson King, 70,300 google hits
  • Dark Side Of The Moon, 917,000 google hits
<br><br>[quote author=r_a_Z_Z link=board=rant;num=1056024787;start=45#54 date=07/13/03 at 23:31:51]...reading a synopsis and comparing it to the content of the album, you have to play them both at the same time...[/quote] and here i thought the wizard of oz was about some midwest chick on a bad acid trip that develops into even more drug use on the trip <br>[center] 8)[/center]<br>...the wicked witch of the west drugged them all into unconsciousness by covering the countryside with poppies then waltzed in and snatched the Slippers...the  poppies worked on Dorothy, Lion and Toto but had no effect on the Scarecrow or Tin Man, the artificial entities....with a blanket of snow, Glenda, Good Witch of the North, nullified the narcotic effect of the poppies on Dorothy, Lion and Toto<br><br> <br>

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 Post subject: Re: The Best album ever
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:22 am 
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[quote author=Dr.Including link=board=rant;num=1056024787;start=45#57 date=07/14/03 at 07:55:16]<br><br>I wouldn't even dare to compare those two. <br><br>[/quote]<br><br>Well King Crimson and Pink Floyd are the two premier prog-rock bands, so it's only natural that their releases be compared.<br>


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 Post subject: Re: The Best album ever
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:23 am 
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<br>  king crimson over pink floyd .<br><br>   any album, any day!!   (imo)<br><br> <br> feel free to bitch about  how wrong i am.  


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 Post subject: re: k.crimson vs p.floyd
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:13 am 
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[quote author=Confinement_Loaf link=board=rant;num=1056024787;start=60#61 date=07/14/03 at 11:23:27]  king crimson over pink floyd .   any album, any day!!   (imo)[/quote]<br>i agree when taken as a whole: as far as musical talent, innovation, guitar work etc. i'd also rate k.crimson miles ahead of floyd,,,,<br><br>but if you remeber the impact [img width=42 height=34]http://usa.venus.co.uk/weed/agifs/images83/prism.gif[/img] had when it was released there's nothing comparable coming out of fripp & the boys....i consider dark side of the moon the 1[sup]st[/sup] of many floyd for the masses, they were not hugely known prior to that release; i went back & bought ummagumma & meddle well after i purchased dark side

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 Post subject: Re: k.crimson vs p.floyd
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[quote author=Disco Boy link=board=rant;num=1056024787;start=60#63 date=07/14/03 at 16:00:30][tt]<br><br>I sure as hell wouldn't. For me it's the complete opposite.[/tt]<br>[/quote]<br><br>You really think Floyd was more innovative than King Crimson?  In my opinion, Pink Floyd don't have anything coming close to the level of creativity exhibited on Larks' Tongues In Aspic.


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 Post subject: Re: The Best album ever
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 2:54 pm 
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Calm down, people! If you'll look in TRFZB, page 188, you'll see what The Man Himself had to say about such petty quibbling:<br><br>The Ultimate Rule ought to be: "If it sounds GOOD to YOU, it's bitchen; and if it sounds BAD to YOU, it's shitty."<br><br>Personally, I like *both* Floyd and KC, although I have to get more of both of them.<br><br>*gets off his soapbox* ;D

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 Post subject: Re: The Best album ever
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[quote author=Disco Boy link=board=rant;num=1056024787;start=60#70 date=07/14/03 at 18:44:48][tt]Wrong, yet once again. To me you say? Well, let's see. Floyd's top ten biggest sellers:<br>The Dark Side Of The Moon: 34 Million<br>The Wall: 25 Million<br>Wish You Were Here: 20 Million<br>Animals: 15 Million<br>A Momentary Lapse Of Reason: 8 Million<br>The Division Bell: 7 Million<br>Delicate Sound Of Thunder: 7 Million<br>Pulse: 6 Million<br>A Final Cut: 6 Million<br>Meddle: 6 Million<br>...but yeah, they're only special to me. Yeah... LOL ::)ROTFLMFAO ;D Coming from a Whitesnake fan, that's fucking hilarious...thanks for the laugh![/tt][/quote]<br><br>[quote author=Disco Boy on another thread link=board=general;num=1058088291;start=15#27 date=07/14/03 at 01:22:03][tt]What, is this a popularity contest now or something?[/tt]<br>[/quote]<br>

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 Post subject: Re: The Best album ever
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:40 pm 
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Floyd are better in my opinion.  I've only heard a couple from King Crimson and thought it was fine.  Still, if I started to listen to KC, I'd still like Floyd more.  <br><br>Who's to say which band is better?<br><br>[center]IS<br> IT<br> YOU?[/center]

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[quote author=Disco Boy link=board=rant;num=1056024787;start=60#74 date=07/14/03 at 19:34:46][tt]slime,<br>You're mixing things up. I'm not talking about that whatsoever. I'm was proving Mr. Confusion wrong by showing him that I'm not the only one who loves their music.  [/tt]<br>[/quote]<br>well this started off as The Best album ever thread, with dark side of the moon named by Dirty_Love(twice), MIZZU(twice), GVG, radley (1 of 8 at first then gets off the fence), Rats n snot (sorta)...<br><br>anyway, i rate almost any early crimson album way above any floyd album, even  dark side of the moon, an innovative trailblazing effort for it's time, now it's quite dated imo (still highly enjoyable full side listen on the radio)....<br><br>the 34 million sales helped promote & sell 25 million wall, 20 million wish you were here and so on, with each pink floyd release selling less & less until they came full circle down to  6 or 7 million for their last few, same as meddle....floyds innovative streak stopped at dark side, but that album was so strong, it carried their next 4 or 5 efforts....<br><br>my favorite floyd track is granchester meadows because it's so lean, clean & different than any other track, you can really hear the musicians do their stuff without the heavy special effects and amplification crutch a lot of bands beat to death...crimson was always fresh (at least up thru discipline) with a wider range of sounds compared to floyd, and their stuff is a little dated i.m.o., but only marginally<br><br><br><br>b.t.w. any sales figures on the first 6 or 7 crimson albums for comparison?

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 Post subject: Re: The Best album ever
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I think The Wall blows, and same with Final Cut.  <br><br>The Crying Song is also a very tranquil tune buy Floyd.  Very simple and clean.<br><br>You stalking me slime?  Cuz, I know Karate.  :P

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 Post subject: Re: The Best album ever
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[quote author=r_a_Z_Z link=board=rant;num=1056024787;start=60#60 date=07/14/03 at 10:22:46]<br><br>Well King Crimson and Pink Floyd are the two premier prog-rock bands, so it's only natural that their releases be compared.<br>[/quote]<br><br>CAUTION: Silly, opinionated post forthcoming...<br><br><br>[shadow=orange,left,300]That is[/shadow]<br>ImageImageImage<br><br>[shadow=green,left,300]...patently ridiculous[/shadow]<br><br>Image<br>Image<br> <br>Crimson yes, OK - but I suppose Genesis, Rush, Hackett, Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull (and not to mention the 5uu's) <br>...are mere piss-drops in the bucket?<br><br>It is almost absurd to even call Pink Floyd 'progressive' to begin with, when their <br>trademark/ modus operandi/ calling card <br>is extended, repetitive jams with very little 'progression' to even speak of.<br><br>Don't get me wrong - Floyd certainly has their share of great moments, <br>and I still consider Ummagumma a great album, but progressive?<br>...nah.

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[quote author=Disco Boy link=board=rant;num=1056024787;start=75#78 date=07/14/03 at 21:15:25][tt]...WYWH, Animals, The Wall, Final Cut, AMLOR... ....They stand out by themselves very well and are still relevant today...[/quote]disagree, they shoulda called 'em return of the son of dark side of the moon vol. 1,2,3,4,5  ;D<br><br>[quote author=Disco Boy link=board=rant;num=1056024787;start=75#78 date=07/14/03 at 21:15:25]...Btw, The Floyd were innovative long before Crimson were even formed...[/tt][/size][/quote]so was miles davis and mozart, timing is not applicable to this discussion, they were both innovative to start, but floyd coasted along on the strength of dark side i.m.o.<br><br><br>[quote author=VapoSlob link=board=rant;num=1056024787;start=75#79 date=07/14/03 at 21:38:34]CAUTION: Silly, opinionated post forthcoming.......I still consider Ummagumma a great album, but progressive?...nah.[/quote]<br>lmao...<br><br>i also like ummagumma best, & progressive for the time like several species and careful with that ice pick u-jeen<br>

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