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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:47 am 
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Has anyone heard of this DVD or know anything about it?
http://www.amazon.com/Beefheart-Vs-Zappa-When-Frank/dp/B00KR33YA8

Is this an official release? What does it consist of? I have my suspicions that it may be a bunch of old material spliced together to make a "new" documentary.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:13 am 
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We have now, no (the studio is The Collectors Forum, which I couldn't find doing a quick google search), don't know, probably.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:06 am 
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calvin2hikers wrote:
no (the studio is The Collectors Forum, which I couldn't find doing a quick google search)

Funny how Amazon is so comfortable selling bootleg DVDs and music these days...


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:17 am 
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the skinny: http://www.beefheart.com/when-don-met-frank-dvd/


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:04 am 
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brainpang wrote:

Nice find! Thanks for letting us know, some shady marketing practices going on here to be sure.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:18 pm 
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Funny how Amazon is so comfortable selling bootleg DVDs and music these days...


It's not actually a bootleg, just two previously-released DVD's packaged together with a misleading title.

If you don't have either of these, they are must-owns.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:19 pm 
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TwentySmallCigars wrote:
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Funny how Amazon is so comfortable selling bootleg DVDs and music these days...


It's not actually a bootleg, just two previously-released DVD's packaged together with a misleading title.

If you don't have either of these, they are must-owns.


I was actually responding to calvin saying that it wasn't an official release, before brainpang brought to light that it was in fact two previously released DVDs. Amazon certainly does sell other bootleg material. Also, just because it was previously released material doesn't mean it can't still be bootlegged by another label later on (not sure if this is the case here or not). I agree with you that these are definitely essential releases for any FZ or Beefheart fan.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:46 pm 
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cory1984 wrote:
...some shady marketing practices going on here to be sure.


But at least Chrome Dreams paid for the production of both documentaries. This is just them repackaging their own official releases.

And now they have produced this - which is brand spanking new: http://www.chromedreams.co.uk/frank-zappa---1969-1973-1075-p.asp

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:31 pm 
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That's cool! I hope they keep 'me coming. All of Chrome Dreams documentaries have been good.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:24 am 
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Hadn't heard about the new release, thanks for the heads-up!

The Chrome Dreams folks do good stuff!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:02 pm 
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KUIII wrote:
That's cool! I hope they keep 'me coming. All of Chrome Dreams documentaries have been good.

Keep "'em" coming. They're good but not that good.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:32 pm 
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Not as good as 'good'??

Are there other Zappa documentaries coming out lately that are better?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:30 pm 
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TwentySmallCigars wrote:
Hadn't heard about the new release, thanks for the heads-up!

+1


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:43 pm 
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TwentySmallCigars wrote:
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Funny how Amazon is so comfortable selling bootleg DVDs and music these days...


It's not actually a bootleg, just two previously-released DVD's packaged together with a misleading title.

If you don't have either of these, they are must-owns.


That's all I need to hear. I don't have either one, so I'm getting it. I'm thinking about bundling it with one of the "grey" market versions of the SNL performances. Any recommendations on which one of those is the best?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:58 pm 
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All of the grey market SNL releases blow dead goats.

You can buy the complete SNL seasons 1 & 4 for dirt cheap on amazon and get the FZ performances in the best quality available as well as some boffo laughs as well.


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TwentySmallCigars wrote:
All of the grey market SNL releases blow dead goats.

You can buy the complete SNL seasons 1 & 4 for dirt cheap on amazon and get the FZ performances in the best quality available as well as some boffo laughs as well.


Then that is what I shall do. Thank you for the information. Much appreciated. 8)


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:57 pm 
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TwentySmallCigars wrote:
Not as good as 'good'??

Are there other Zappa documentaries coming out lately that are better?

I was making a little joke about a typo in my original comment.


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Philostopher wrote:
TwentySmallCigars wrote:
All of the grey market SNL releases blow dead goats.

You can buy the complete SNL seasons 1 & 4 for dirt cheap on amazon and get the FZ performances in the best quality available as well as some boffo laughs as well.


Then that is what I shall do. Thank you for the information. Much appreciated. 8)


I just pulled the trigger on the upcoming documentary, and Seasons 1 & 4 of SNL. Thanks for the suggestion. I think your idea is the best way to go.


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Here's my review of the new DVD: http://www.idiotbastard.com/reviews.htm#FreakJazz

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The Idiot Bastard wrote:
Here's my review of the new DVD: http://www.idiotbastard.com/reviews.htm#FreakJazz


Is this one only available on the Chrome Dreams site? I don't see it on Amazon.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:27 am 
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Philostopher wrote:
Is this one only available on the Chrome Dreams site? I don't see it on Amazon.


I've see it listed at a couple of other sites, but not Amazon. Yet.

But what's wrong with the Chrome Dreams postage costs? Seem really cheap.

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The Idiot Bastard wrote:
Philostopher wrote:
Is this one only available on the Chrome Dreams site? I don't see it on Amazon.


I've see it listed at a couple of other sites, but not Amazon. Yet.

But what's wrong with the Chrome Dreams postage costs? Seem really cheap.


If you're in England. When I tried to check out through the link you posted, everything was in pounds and said free shipping in the UK. I'm sure they aren't shipping free to the US? If I buy it on Amazon. I can usually bundle it with something, and get free shipping if I spend at least $35.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:47 am 
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A mere £2.50 for anywhere in world outside of Europe seems very reasonable.

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That is definitely reasonable. I did not see that. I am a dumbass forklift operator. I would consider my computer skills just good enough to get by in the modern world. Thanks for the info.


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I should get a shipping notice, if this actually is released today. I hope it does. They are holding my two seasons of SNL hostage until the documentary is released.


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