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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:12 am 
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Why doesn't Zappa (ZFT) own the rights to this one? The DVD, I mean.


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cause its shit


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cause its shit


I think I like it so much because it is how I like to remember FZ. He's got a twinkle in his eye throughout. Smiling. Even handsome!

I will now sob into my hanky.


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Franck has to leave EMI the marketing of video in 1986. But there is no relationship with the shows of August the 25 and 26 ' 84 with the théatre "ThePier" of New York from which the cassette is drawn.

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"Does Humor..." was the first live FZ I ever saw, and one of my earliest entry points into his music - I first heard "Greasy", "Honey", "Cosmik", "Tinseltown" and others through that tape. Can't remember if I was already into the early stuff yet (I latched onto my dad's copy of Uncle Meat sometime around here too), but that video was a nice way to give me a teaser of his back catalogue. So I've got a soft spot for it, although I choose not to watch it much anymore.

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i got it not knowing what to expect. he says "relax sit down its going to be a long show" i got excited, then it ended. I wish it was the whole show.

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I have mixed feelings towards DHBIM - on the plus side its brilliantly shot - some great close ups of frank's playing - nice interviews but on the down side I dont like Thunes's constant attempts at being 'crazy' - great bass playing for sure but boy does he know the camera is rolling ! Zoot is great though as is Cosmik Debris & Whipping Post .


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I have mixed feelings towards DHBIM - on the plus side its brilliantly shot - some great close ups of frank's playing - nice interviews but on the down side I dont like Thunes's constant attempts at being 'crazy' - great bass playing for sure but boy does he know the camera is rolling ! Zoot is great though as is Cosmik Debris & Whipping Post .


It's called stage presence, you dolt!! He was ALWAYS animated like that, not just for this show cause the cameras were rolling.

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jaypfunk wrote:
rascalhoudi wrote:
I have mixed feelings towards DHBIM - on the plus side its brilliantly shot - some great close ups of frank's playing - nice interviews but on the down side I dont like Thunes's constant attempts at being 'crazy' - great bass playing for sure but boy does he know the camera is rolling ! Zoot is great though as is Cosmik Debris & Whipping Post .


It's called stage presence, you dolt!! He was ALWAYS animated like that, not just for this show cause the cameras were rolling.


On top of being skilled musicians , Frank also wanted people that wern't shy onstage.. :roll:


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thunes is awesome in that movie, quite fantastic. Alan Zavod on the the other hand.....

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you got that right, grimp! he definately knew the camera was on him. i was watching and thought, "okay, we get it, you're miming a blow job! over and over!" :roll: he could play, but he was'nt as great as thunes. as frank once said about what he looked for in a musician:"i look for a combination of skill and attitude" :mrgreen: thunes had it, zavod was merely irritating.

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sorry cant agree jaypfunk ! I saw 4 x 84 shows and Scott wasnt really animated at all - also saw 5 x 88 shows and again nowhere near as manic as in the Pier show - its just my observation anyway - leave all the running around to the BIG groups - Gotta agree about the Zavod comments - nice guy , WRONG band.


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jaypfunk wrote:
rascalhoudi wrote:
I have mixed feelings towards DHBIM - on the plus side its brilliantly shot - some great close ups of frank's playing - nice interviews but on the down side I dont like Thunes's constant attempts at being 'crazy' - great bass playing for sure but boy does he know the camera is rolling ! Zoot is great though as is Cosmik Debris & Whipping Post .


It's called stage presence, you dolt!! He was ALWAYS animated like that, not just for this show cause the cameras were rolling.


Yes Stage Presence. Scott presented himself in many ways. It was all part of the job. Delivering a show for the audience.

I saw 13 Zappa 1984 shows. Scott always played his parts quite well be it the bass, vocals or animated muzishnin'. If Scott was a little more animated because the film was running it only adds to a big part of what the 1984 tour was about. Not that Frank did not have his musicians animating there stage presence before this tour because the theatrical animation of his musicians always played a role in the show.

The great thing about Thunes was that he could do what Frank wanted of him. Frank and Thunes worked well together but back to the animated actions of Scott Thunes at the Saratoga show I gave Scott a Thing Fish Painting on canvas that was pinned to a Yellow Chineese Cook Jacket. I would change the jacket that I would wear this painting on for each show I attended. Anyhow, Thunes came out for the opening number Heavy Duty Judy with his back to the audience showing off the painting. Just another small example of Thunes animating during the show. All I can say is sometimes on film the animated sections show off a bit more but when you are at a show you could be focusing on the event from a different perspective. I always found Thunes to have a somewhat animated stage persona be it if Frank was asking him to play the role or it was his own thing. Like that whole He's gay section in He's So Gay. Some musician has to play the role and Scott did a good job bobbing the apple and rfifiing the bass at the same time.

Scott's is a great bass player. The animated sections was just something Frank apaprantly wanted in the program. It was a big part of the tour theme.

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Good points and well made jaypfunk ! I wish I had seen the Saratoga show - its one of my fav boots from 84 - and the opening Heavy Duty Judy just rocks - I do remember seeing Scott break a string during Dancing Fool @ Birmingham 88 - never seen a bass player before or since break a string - kinda sticks in the memory .


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rascalhoudi wrote:
Good points and well made jaypfunk ! I wish I had seen the Saratoga show - its one of my fav boots from 84 - and the opening Heavy Duty Judy just rocks - I do remember seeing Scott break a string during Dancing Fool @ Birmingham 88 - never seen a bass player before or since break a string - kinda sticks in the memory .


Did he stop playing? Can you remember Frank's reaction?

I personally think that Scott Thunes, Alan Zavod AND Bobby Martin ALL act like a bunch of idiots. But for me, that is one of the funny things about that DVD. And you have to admit, it takes a certain amount of skill to be able to play those songs AND act like an idiot at the same time.


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Hey, it was the 80s after all, a lot of us were idiots back then anyway.

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feetlightup wrote:
Hey, it was the 80s after all, a lot of us were idiots back then anyway.


...Not me. 8)


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you got that right, grimp! he definately knew the camera was on him. i was watching and thought, "okay, we get it, you're miming a blow job! over and over!" :roll: he could play, but he was'nt as great as thunes. as frank once said about what he looked for in a musician:"i look for a combination of skill and attitude" :mrgreen: thunes had it, zavod was merely irritating.


Agreed. Zavod comes across as ridiculous on DHBIM. great album and video / dvd though...


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jaypfunk wrote:
rascalhoudi wrote:
I have mixed feelings towards DHBIM - on the plus side its brilliantly shot - some great close ups of frank's playing - nice interviews but on the down side I dont like Thunes's constant attempts at being 'crazy' - great bass playing for sure but boy does he know the camera is rolling ! Zoot is great though as is Cosmik Debris & Whipping Post .


It's called stage presence, you dolt!! He was ALWAYS animated like that, not just for this show cause the cameras were rolling.


No, he wasn't. Just watch halloween show in october 1981.


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feetlightup wrote:
Hey, it was the 80s after all, a lot of us were idiots back then anyway.
And their CLOTHES! To me that's the worst part. They play their parts and act funny. Personally, I like the DVD.

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 Post subject: Re: Does Humor...
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Hmm, stage prescence. I guess it's not everything. (veiled reference)

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