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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:51 am 
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a religious person (a "Dweezilist"?),

This made me laugh out loud.

What is 'statistical density' anyway?
It amuses me when I read/hear Zappa interviews when he uses these sort of phrases-he was imaginative and witty, but when Trendmeister uses them it doesn't seem right.

As this discussion seems to be centred on plagiarism can I suggest something:

Trendy! Invent your own witty phrases! Grow your own eyebrows etc
I am not on your case, but accept that not everything Zappa-related needs to be glorified.

Quilt


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:20 pm 
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Quilt wrote:
a religious person (a "Dweezilist"?),

This made me laugh out loud.

What is 'statistical density' anyway?
It amuses me when I read/hear Zappa interviews when he uses these sort of phrases-he was imaginative and witty, but when Trendmeister uses them it doesn't seem right.

As this discussion seems to be centred on plagiarism can I suggest something:

Trendy! Invent your own witty phrases! Grow your own eyebrows etc
I am not on your case, but accept that not everything Zappa-related needs to be glorified.

Quilt


Well I am sure to a given extent FZs phrases make it's way into our diction.
One does not need to look beyond Ben Watson to see how deep the critical analysis may go
but even as deep as Ben tries to get the "doesn't seem right" could be applied to Ben as much as anybody.
The more you use it the more you will be criticized as how you are using it.
Do we take out a chicken to measure it?

But you ask.
(and I don't mind being asked anytime I use some Zappa diction
and why I use it in context with what is being said)


The Statistical Density is the sum of everything that is going on musically and politically.
On the surface the song is merely a pop metal song but upon further analysis the statistical density
of the piece shows it is a bit more than your basic pop metal song with regards to compositional structure
and elsewhere.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:23 pm 
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In a Stereophile article ( http://www.stereophile.com/musicrecordi ... dex16.html ), FZ's concept of statistical density is defined as "a maximum amount of aesthetic information in a minimum amount of time." A good example is "The Black Page" with its polyrhythms and nested tuplets. Other good examples are the multi-tracked vocals at the ends of "Goblin Girl" and "America Drinks and Goes Home."

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