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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:13 pm 
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Considering the length of the film, they couldn't have fit much more into the package. A little over 10 minutes for a dual-layer DVD with a decent bit rate.<br><br>I talked to Bruce about it tonight, and he was disappointed that he wasn't contacted for any potential contribution. A commentary, interview, anything. Then again, Gail owns all of the films, negatives, and sculptures Bruce created under FZ's employ.  :-X<br><br>I'm very curious to see if it is a true 5.1 mix, or just the original soundtrack with a little chorus & verb seeping to the rear speakers. It takes all of 10 minutes to add the effect to a stereo mix and render it as an AC-3 or 5.1 signal. I'll know in the first 5 minutes if they gave it the TLC it deserves, or just pumped it through a factory preset.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:03 am 
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Why don't you ask Joe t.?<br><br>


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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:11 pm 
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And here is the word from Joe T.:<br><br> Hi Joe,<br>><br>> Thanks for all the hard work it appears that you did to help bring Baby<br>> Snakes to the 21st Century and to all of FZ's fans.<br><br>Yes, it is a reality & all will be able to enjoy it Dec. 9th<br><br>><br>><br>> Some people are wondering about the audio mix. I quote ListenMan from<br>> the Zappa on TV and film forum:<br>><br>> "I'm very curious to see if it is a true 5.1 mix, or just the original<br>> soundtrack with a little chorus & verb seeping to the rear speakers. It<br>> takes all of 10 minutes to add the effect to a stereo mix and render it<br>> as an AC-3 or 5.1 signal. I'll know in the first 5 minutes if they gave<br>> it the TLC it deserves, or just pumped it through a factory preset."<br><br>Well, he will be pleasently surprised. The 5.1 was generated from FZ's own<br>4 channel mixes. Not to worry, it sounds awsome.<br><br>><br>><br>> Soon we'll all see how great a magician/musician you are!<br><br>Be prepared!<br><br>><br>><br>> Be good.<br>><br>> Keep nudging GZ to get that stuff out!<br><br>SO trying!<br><br>


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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 9:11 am 
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Considering I can get nearly the same sound when I play my Original VHS through my home theater system.<br>NO!!!<br>I'd rather have extra material.<br><br>ZFT has been doing too many things "ON THE CHEAP"<br><br>And the hardcore Zappa fans deserve much better than "ON THE CHEAP"<br><br>I've bought everything they've released, and sometimes had to wait 7 months for it to arrive after I paid for it.<br><br>Is this the way Frank would want it.<br><br>I suggest, TF24, you not just fall into line and conform......I'm sorry, I'm not a beige-blandish, non-thinking blob.<br><br>If I don't agree, I let it be known, nothing wrong with that, it's my opinion, you wanted it, there it is.<br>  "That's all I have, my opinion." FZ dinah shore show<br>

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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:45 pm 
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thing fish.....looks like you are looking for an arguement.<br><br>Hey everyone!!!<br>He puts up a new thread, then sits in the shadows for someone who doesn't agree with him....so he can rear his ugly head and make a fool of himself  HA HA!!!<br><br>let me tell you this THING-FUCK, HALLOWEEN was a DVD-A  DTS release. <br><br>5.1 surround is not DTS...you don't know what you are talking about......grow up man ;D

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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
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LOL!!!<br>wow, what an asshole rampage that was

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 Post subject: re: baby snakes xtras
PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:43 pm 
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i heard they were gonna add vocals by some washed-up lounge singer & remix the black page # 2, but..<br><br>due to popular consesus and waves of protest from true hard-core zappa fans, they saw the light & kept the original no-vocals mix

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[quote author=unica link=board=tv-film;num=1069303920;start=0#12 date=11/22/03 at 00:04:59]Hey THING FUCKING FISH...SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE!!!!<br>You don't know shit about Zappa at all...Zappa fucked up the Sleep Dirt release by adding the vocals of Thana Harris. The original Sleep Dirt is way better!<br>And about halloween 1978 dvd audio...my dvd player couldn't even play that fucking thing...and Dweezil totally fucked up that whole show...thought that we would be happy with just another camarrillo Brillo...well we are not!<br>It is about the music not about the fucking technology!!!<br>So SHUT UP! ;D[/quote]<br>...i don't know you, but i love you!...<br><br>

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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
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[quote author=unica link=board=tv-film;num=1069303920;start=0#12 date=11/22/03 at 00:04:59]Hey THING FUCKING FISH...SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE!!!!<br>You don't know shit about Zappa at all...Zappa fucked up the Sleep Dirt release by adding the vocals of Thana Harris. The original Sleep Dirt is way better!<br>And about halloween 1978 dvd audio...my dvd player couldn't even play that fucking thing...and Dweezil totally fucked up that whole show...thought that we would be happy with just another camarrillo Brillo...well we are not!<br>It is about the music not about the fucking technology!!!<br>So SHUT UP! ;D[/quote]<br><br>"damn I didn't know zappa fans were so aggressive"<br><br>Sound familiar?<br>


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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 3:59 am 
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so......

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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
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<br><br>a remix is a remix....same music.<br>I bought a completely different home theater system so I could hear Halloween in DTS.<br><br>I'm one of the DEDICATE on the FZ : OZ release, my name is in the cd cover.<br><br>ARE YOU UPSET??<br><br>I understand what this release is...<br><br>I understand you are an angry person,<br>and I think you should go to anger management, it will do wonders for you Thing-Fuck.<br><br>you have some issues that should be addressed outside of this forum, on a couch perhaps??<br><br>or perhaps some narcotics to keep you sleeping.<br><br>Either of these choices will keep your mind off of you inside anger.<br><br>if you lived in toonland perhaps you could get an anvil to fall on your head, but please....do something!!<br><br>you're gonna hurt yourself.<br>

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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 11:14 am 
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God, can't we all just stop fighting and celebrate the fact that a Zappa video is finally being re-released.  My biggest contention was that the video wasn't available in the first place for many of the newer Zappa fans to experience (unless you wanted to spend too much for cheap counterfeits on ebay).  And the fact that the sound was remixed to 5.1 Dolby Digital is a plus in my book.<br><br>In short, as Zappa fans, can't we all just...well, you know the rest. :D<br><br><br><br>

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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
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[quote author=unica link=board=tv-film;num=1069303920;start=15#20 date=11/23/03 at 02:31:47]...and for the rest of the Zappa fans..they don't like you at all you know.  :-/<br>[/quote]<br>Why don't you speak for yourself, instead of involving others in your little fantasies. I think he makes more sense than you do.


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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 12:49 pm 
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I wonder why they are releasing Baby Snakes before something new.<br>  I already have it on DVD.<br>Does anyone know if there are any extras?

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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
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well, considering I ripped it from my original VHS tapes I bought from BArfko, I would call it a copy.<br>  I would expect at the very least a nice booklet.<br><br>uh, DTS is not 5.1 surround, anyone knows that. (I guess not)<br><br>.....and with your previous ranting posts, that would qualify you as a babbling idiot.<br><br>maybe you can find somewhere else to copy and paste about DTS and post it (like you did with your plastic Zappa knowledge), so maybe it will appear as though you actually know something, which I doubt.<br><br>DTS is not 5.1 surround, what part of that don't you understand?<br><br>It's like talking to a republican. :P<br><br>

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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
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it's not a DTS release, it's a four track(FZ quad mix)

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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
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Baby Snakes DVD includes secret files!!<br><br>Image


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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
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According to an ad in Relics magazine, the DVD includes the Roxy trailer !!!


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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:59 pm 
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Full info:<br>http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/showrelease.php3?category=DVD%20Press%20Release&ID=4251<br><br>I like this part....  ;D<br><br>Baby Snakes was written, produced, directed and composed by Frank Zappa. For production of the DVD, Gail Zappa acted as Executive Producer for the Concept & Art Direction. The 5.1 Soundtrack was produced by Dweezil Zappa, who also created special art for the project. Vaultmeister Joe Travers uncovered a previously unreleased 4-channel mix for the movie soundtrack. From this mix, Dweezil Zappa, Joe Travers & Kent Huffnagle conspired to create the 5.1 Audio Mix.

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 Post subject: Re: BABY SNAKES EXTRAS
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 3:48 am 
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From that Digitally Obsessed press release:<br><br>"The live footage... will not fail to disappoint fans of Zappa's master showmanship."<br><br>Jeez- somebody's gotta proofread these things more carefully!  :P


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