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Well fine, it was the MST3K episode.

I've been watching good movies lately. I haven't watched anything really dreadful since my friend and I rented Good Burger instead of going to the prom. George Clinton was in that movie and it was horribly awesome.


I LOVE Mitchell MST3K! Of course it's terrible, but in a really superb way. Joe Don Baker is a magnificent C-list beast.

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Well, I'm a Kubrick nut, so when Eyes Wide Shut was aired I taped it... but when watching it I wouldn't stomach much more than 20 minutes. Stanley! How could you!

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i concur. awful stuff. i understand the movie was finished after kubrick died, but still. a movie by this man that's boring? amazing.

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i concur. awful stuff. i understand the movie was finished after kubrick died, but still. a movie by this man that's boring? amazing.


It's weird. In my case, my dislike for this movie is started by my prudishness, and my disgust for Tom Cruise.

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Flesh for the Beast is a terrible movie that's worth watching. It has a good amount of nudity and Buckethead did the score.

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ah, bbp, the sexual parts didn't phaze me--but an orgy....boring?
i'm with you about cruise. he's pretty good in magnolia, however. when i saw the movie i knew the cruise/kidman marriage wasn't long for this world. THERE WAS NO CHEMISTRY BETWEEN THEM! i realize something happened to the couple in the story, but their sex scenes were....flaccid.

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ah, bbp, the sexual parts didn't phaze me--but an orgy....boring?
i'm with you about cruise. he's pretty good in magnolia, however. when i saw the movie i knew the cruise/kidman marriage wasn't long for this world. THERE WAS NO CHEMISTRY BETWEEN THEM! i realize something happened to the couple in the story, but their sex scenes were....flaccid.


Yeah I'm a terrible prude. Rocky Horror is stuff I can stand (except for Columbia's intentional wardrobe malfunctions) but nudity is something that always made me sick for some reason.

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ah, bbp, the sexual parts didn't phaze me--but an orgy....boring?
i'm with you about cruise. he's pretty good in magnolia, however. when i saw the movie i knew the cruise/kidman marriage wasn't long for this world. THERE WAS NO CHEMISTRY BETWEEN THEM! i realize something happened to the couple in the story, but their sex scenes were....flaccid.


Yeah I'm a terrible prude. Rocky Horror is stuff I can stand (except for Columbia's intentional wardrobe malfunctions) but nudity is something that always made me sick for some reason.


That's too bad, Columbia's wardrobe malfunctions were some of my favorite parts of that movie.


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Same here! No reason to be afraid of the human body, especially some of the bodies in that film.

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Not so much as a crappy movie but a crappy TV show. Watched the first episode of the American version of Life On Mars last week and it was so bad, I found myself getting really annoyed. Everything that made this programme great has been stripped away and replaced with big opening scenes action packed with chases and back slapping cops. There are so many little details that were in the original, which were subtle that have been replaced with elaborate explanations that are just not needed. I hated it. I totally get that there's a difference between how America and England were in the 70's but even so....it's such a bad remake! Harvey Keitel, in my opinion was to be the shows one saving grace, but nope, he is bloody awful in it too. Anyone who has seen the original UK version of it with John Simm and Phillip Glennister will know exactly what I mean. The subtleties and nostalgia are all gone, it's been stripped bare and is in no way recognisable any more. Maybe that was the intention, I don't know but in my humble opinion, it's one of the worst things I've ever seen.
Just to think that there has been suggestion of an American version of Doctor Who brings me out in hives!!!
I mean no offence to my American friends here, by the way. There are many American series I love, I just cannot stand English TV shows remade for American TV.

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...I don't know but in my humble opinion, it's one of the worst things I've ever seen... I just cannot stand English TV shows remade for American TV.

The worst? That must mean you have never seen "Amanda's", the american re-make of "Fawlty Towers", starring Bea Arthur as the hotel's proprieter.
"Amanda's was cancelled in May 1983 after a short, four-month run and 10 episodes (3 more episodes remained unaired)." And even at that, not soon enough.

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Worst TV series I've seen in its entirety (6 eps) is "Take A Letter, Mr Jones", which, even though it starred my childhood hero John Inman, never got me laughing more than once.

Whe it comes to partly-seen shows, I could nominate 95% of all US sitcoms I've ever seen.

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... Life On Mars ...

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ah, yet another british television show we've stolen and made worse. i had no idea it originated elsewhere--but that makes sense, we keep regurgitating the same thing over and over. so, we take from other sources. if i hear of an american version of "league of gentlemen", i'll be pissed!

off the top of my head, the two exceptions to the rule of brit to yank shows being awful are "all in the family" and "sanford and son". i'm with you asp, if they make an american version of "doctor who", it's sure to be horrible. was the show "pushing up daisies" from another country? i watched it a few times, and it was okay, slightly intriguing. doesn't much matter, since it's been cancelled.

a show i loved as a kid, but now looks stupid is "emergency!"......."randolph mantooth's unlisted phone number!"

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...I don't know but in my humble opinion, it's one of the worst things I've ever seen... I just cannot stand English TV shows remade for American TV.

The worst? That must mean you have never seen "Amanda's", the american re-make of "Fawlty Towers", starring Bea Arthur as the hotel's proprieter.
"Amanda's was cancelled in May 1983 after a short, four-month run and 10 episodes (3 more episodes remained unaired)." And even at that, not soon enough.


I've not seen that one, Doug and from what you say, I reckon that's a good thing!

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... Life On Mars ...

Fucking brilliant show.

Yep, it is a brilliant show, if we're both talking about the original version. :wink: Poignant, nostalgic, funny, subtle, heart wrenching, and brilliantly written and acted. I loved it. Ashes to Ashes the follow up, I wasn't so sure of initially but actually quite liked it. Glennister saved the day in that series.

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ah, yet another british television show we've stolen and made worse. i had no idea it originated elsewhere--but that makes sense, we keep regurgitating the same thing over and over. so, we take from other sources. if i hear of an american version of "league of gentlemen", i'll be pissed!

Ya see dovey, that's what annoys me, they don't make it clear enough that it is a remake of a British show. Then again, that's not such a bad thing because this version would totally put anyone off watching the original had they not seen it before. I thoroughly recommend it, if you ever spot it in the TV lisitngs over there. It's brilliant.
Don't get me started on The League Of Gentlemen!! Hahaha! That's another of my favourites! Thankfully, having read and listened to the comedians involved in that show, I doubt that would ever happen. Then again, never say never eh? It happened with The Office (not a show I was a fan of really in the first place).

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off the top of my head, the two exceptions to the rule of brit to yank shows being awful are "all in the family" and "sanford and son". i'm with you asp, if they make an american version of "doctor who", it's sure to be horrible. was the show "pushing up daisies" from another country? i watched it a few times, and it was okay, slightly intriguing. doesn't much matter, since it's been cancelled.

a show i loved as a kid, but now looks stupid is "emergency!"......."randolph mantooth's unlisted phone number!"


I've not seen either of the ones you mention there Dovey, wasnt "All In The Family" a spin off of "Till Death Us Do Part"? Not re-run so much here because apparently the political incorrectness would send everyone into a frenzy! I know "Sanford and Son" was a version of "Steptoe and Son" which is just an absolute classic, one of my favourites. It'd be interesting to see how the American version of that turned out.
I thought "Pushing Daisies" was an American show, starring Anna Friel who is British. It was aired over here and I quite liked it. Quirky and colourful! Yeah is it the third series they're not doing, or did they cancel it halfway through the second?

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If you've never seen the British TV series "The League of Gentleman" you really ought to. There are three series in all and although some of the same characters pop up again once in while there is - in contrast to "Little Britain" a plot and character development that is almost Pinteresque. The third series is really my favorite because it has a beautiful running thread and lots of obscure references to some of my favorite films (e.g. "The Killing of Sister George" and "Don't Look Now). However, it's not really for the squeamish.

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Punisher: War Zone is steamy pile of crap. Only go see it for a laugh and remember to keep very low expectations.
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If you've never seen the British TV series "The League of Gentleman" you really ought to. There are three series in all and although some of the same characters pop up again once in while there is - in contrast to "Little Britain" a plot and character development that is almost Pinteresque. The third series is really my favorite because it has a beautiful running thread and lots of obscure references to some of my favorite films (e.g. "The Killing of Sister George" and "Don't Look Now). However, it's not really for the squeamish.


Yep, got everything they ever did, including the original radio shows which were aired on Radio 4 and used to base the TV series on. Have you seen them live, Caputh? Saw them a few times over the years and they never disappoint. :mrgreen:
Their humour is dark and sinister and as you very rightly pointed out, not for the squeamish! There are a lot of influences, indeed, from The Wicker Man in series one, right through to Hammer's Curse Of Frankenstein, and all those really old British Horror films.
Thought you might find this interesting...references to some of their influences, as included in the Christmas Episode from a few years back...

"Summary: Bernice's first visitor is a long-suffering husband (Charlie Hull) who is plagued by a recurring dream where his wife (Stella Hull) uses voodoo magic to ruin his life, before coming to a sticky end herself.
• The story is linked to WW Jacobs The Monkey's Paw and story 3 of From Beyond The Grave, a 1973 Amicus film. This story had a boy whose father (Ian Bannen) was always being hen-pecked by nagging wife Diana Doors. He gets freedom from sinister ex-war veteran Donald Pleasence and his real life daughter only for he and the wife to have it taken away. (Mark Coyle)
• Bernice’s flaming cigarette lighter is a nod to something, not sure what! It was also used in 'Funnybones' (Jerry Lewis had one when he was in the audience, about to watch Tommy do his stand up) There was also one in 'Grease' (Fee)
• In the Ladies toilets, Stella mentions Neil Sedaka. Steve and Reece are huge Sedaka fans (they have seen him live about 4 times ) and used to play his album [exact details?] when fans entered the auditorium to take their seats during the Local Show (Live Show, UK wide, 2000-2001)
• In the Ladies toilets, Stella says that Polly has to "eat and onion as if t’were an apple", a self-reference to Tubbs and the script notes of Series 1, where Tubbs eats and onion during "the madness" sketch. Then, as Lee gives Stella and Donna their cocktails, we clearly see Polly "eating an onion as if t’were an apple" in the background
• The Solutions masks are from 'Eyes wide shut' (Gail) and the women are also very similar to the white and black masked jury at the end of The Prisoner (Mark Coyle)
• References to Dr Who's Autons - the Solutions Masks and the shop dummies in the warehouse.
• All the masked women are Royston Vasey regulars. You can spot Val Denton (the boss), Pauline, Iris and Judee, Vinnie and Reenie, Pam Doove and Donna of course
• The solutions women drink milk – a nod to Clockwork Orange
• “I’ll get Anne Robinson on you” – Anne is also mentioned in the Live Show
• The voodoo doll is the same shape as the Wicker Man
• Jeremy doubles for DJ Mike King, played by Reece in Series 2.
• Lee’s death is an obvious homage to the end of “Don’t look now” and Donna is hooded, although in a yellow mac, not a red one.
• Charlie going to Bernice for marriage counselling is similar to him seeking advice from Jimmy the Blacksmith in On The Town.
• "practice your Dorothy Clicks" is yet another reference to the Wizard of Oz (along with Tubbs clicking her moon boots together 3 times in the local show etc) and refers to Charlie's line dancing.


There are many many more references, homages and more than one pastiche used in all three series and the specials. Makes it all the more fun watching the programmes, trying to remember where the influences came from, as well as the laughs! Check out the website, if you haven't done so already...Nice to know they're appreciated globally. Many of my friends just don't get the humour, or simply have never heard of the show, which I find very strange!
http://www.leagueofgentlemen.co.uk/newlatest.shtml

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A piece of crap fer sure..the story of Pocahontas. Even The Disney cartoon was better.

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Yep, got everything they ever did, including the original radio shows which were aired on Radio 4 and used to base the TV series on. Have you seen them live, Caputh? Saw them a few times over the years and they never disappoint. :mrgreen:
Their humour is dark and sinister and as you very rightly pointed out, not for the squeamish! There are a lot of influences, indeed, from The Wicker Man in series one, right through to Hammer's Curse Of Frankenstein, and all those really old British Horror films.
Thought you might find this interesting...references to some of their influences, as included in the Christmas Episode from a few years back...

"Summary: Bernice's first visitor is a long-suffering husband (Charlie Hull) who is plagued by a recurring dream where his wife (Stella Hull) uses voodoo magic to ruin his life, before coming to a sticky end herself.
• The story is linked to WW Jacobs The Monkey's Paw and story 3 of From Beyond The Grave, a 1973 Amicus film. This story had a boy whose father (Ian Bannen) was always being hen-pecked by nagging wife Diana Doors. He gets freedom from sinister ex-war veteran Donald Pleasence and his real life daughter only for he and the wife to have it taken away. (Mark Coyle)
• Bernice’s flaming cigarette lighter is a nod to something, not sure what! It was also used in 'Funnybones' (Jerry Lewis had one when he was in the audience, about to watch Tommy do his stand up) There was also one in 'Grease' (Fee)
• In the Ladies toilets, Stella mentions Neil Sedaka. Steve and Reece are huge Sedaka fans (they have seen him live about 4 times ) and used to play his album [exact details?] when fans entered the auditorium to take their seats during the Local Show (Live Show, UK wide, 2000-2001)
• In the Ladies toilets, Stella says that Polly has to "eat and onion as if t’were an apple", a self-reference to Tubbs and the script notes of Series 1, where Tubbs eats and onion during "the madness" sketch. Then, as Lee gives Stella and Donna their cocktails, we clearly see Polly "eating an onion as if t’were an apple" in the background
• The Solutions masks are from 'Eyes wide shut' (Gail) and the women are also very similar to the white and black masked jury at the end of The Prisoner (Mark Coyle)
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• All the masked women are Royston Vasey regulars. You can spot Val Denton (the boss), Pauline, Iris and Judee, Vinnie and Reenie, Pam Doove and Donna of course
• The solutions women drink milk – a nod to Clockwork Orange
• “I’ll get Anne Robinson on you” – Anne is also mentioned in the Live Show
• The voodoo doll is the same shape as the Wicker Man
• Jeremy doubles for DJ Mike King, played by Reece in Series 2.
• Lee’s death is an obvious homage to the end of “Don’t look now” and Donna is hooded, although in a yellow mac, not a red one.
• Charlie going to Bernice for marriage counselling is similar to him seeking advice from Jimmy the Blacksmith in On The Town.
• "practice your Dorothy Clicks" is yet another reference to the Wizard of Oz (along with Tubbs clicking her moon boots together 3 times in the local show etc) and refers to Charlie's line dancing.


There are many many more references, homages and more than one pastiche used in all three series and the specials. Makes it all the more fun watching the programmes, trying to remember where the influences came from, as well as the laughs! Check out the website, if you haven't done so already...Nice to know they're appreciated globally. Many of my friends just don't get the humour, or simply have never heard of the show, which I find very strange!
http://www.leagueofgentlemen.co.uk/newlatest.shtml

That's really interesting- thanks!
The only things I think I haven't seen yet on DVD are the stage show on DVD and the movie - were they any good, or did they just repeat themselves?

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Fucking brilliant show.
Yep, it is a brilliant show, if we're both talking about the original version. :wink: Poignant, nostalgic, funny, subtle, heart wrenching, and brilliantly written and acted. I loved it.
I'm definitely talking about the original, you have to remember that there's a close association between the ABC and the BBC and there are other Aussie/Brit connections TV wise. My favourite American shows are the ones that are uniquely American and aren't peddling the middle of the road. Boston Legal is a good example. One of my favourite police type shows is Life and I dig House, although that is fronted by a Pom.

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Ashes to Ashes the follow up, I wasn't so sure of initially but actually quite liked it. Glennister saved the day in that series.
There was a follow up? When was that? I guess we'll get it eventually.

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