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diplomaticpermissiondeepi

Post subject: '68 and '69 Mothers

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:20 pm

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I thought I would start a thesis of the last 2 years of the mothers. Anything of interest please put here.

The 'German' fellow is Lippman Rau promoter. He could be Herr Lippman, or Mr Rau

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diplomaticpermissiondeepi

Post subject: Deluxe Acetate Side B

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:24 pm

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Heres the other one (side 1) who the fuck is Phil Wenz??

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:11 pm

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Casino

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:12 pm

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:56 pm

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I didn't know C. Everett Koop was in the Mothers!!? :shock:

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diplomaticpermissiondeepi

Post subject: Zappa @ Albert halle 6-6-69

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:28 am

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What a beautiful portrait of the composer in contemplation. Taken during rehearsal/soundcheck

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:49 pm

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Not sure what was happening here, Roy Estrada (13th March 2008) thought all this destruction occured in England, buts its France

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diplomaticpermissiondeepi

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:55 am

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This picture...who's in the overalls?

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unica

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:42 am

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diplomaticpermissiondeepi wrote:

This picture...who's in the overalls?

probably Kanzus J. Kanzus, roadie and dancer

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Rocknrollcola

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:02 pm

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If you got any live pictures of Lowell George Playing Rhythm Guitar and Vocals with The Mothers of Invention please post them. I have never seen any. Most are just group shots and they are just posing.

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unica

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:47 pm

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Rocknrollcola wrote:

The Mothers of Invention
The Rock Pile
February 23, 1969
March 24, 1969

Frank Zappa & Lowell George

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diplomaticpermissiondeepi

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:53 pm

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You can see what I have been told is L.George from the rear playing the Telecaster.

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:15 pm

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Not sure when this is, but how many times FZ wore his dungarees outside onstage. Same concert as Wild Man Fischer?

This is from the Grandmothers website

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:45 pm

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When?

Where? I have a feeling this is Denmark, but not sure.

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:22 pm

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Cool pictures. Thanks! IS Frank Zappa using a black beauty les paul custom in some of those pictures?

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diplomaticpermissiondeepi

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:26 pm

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Rocknrollcola wrote:

Cool pictures. Thanks! IS Frank Zappa using a black beauty les paul custom in some of those pictures?

Your statement is a bolt from the blue!

I know he called a tune Black Beauty, but never have I seen FZ with a pre 1969 Les Paul Custom (in black)

He's using a Les Paul Goldtop.

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:56 am

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diplomaticpermissiondeepi wrote:

When?

Where? I have a feeling this is Denmark, but not sure.

Pictures taken at Tivoli Gardens, Copenhagen, October 3, 1968.
The Mothers played two shows - backstage photos taken between shows.

http://members.cox.net/bill_lantz/fz1968/index.html

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:17 am

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Hey!!! Whadda you tryin' ta pull? You spliced those last two photos together! Whatta fake!!!

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:44 am

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I still hate dolphins wrote:

Hey!!! Whadda you tryin' ta pull? You spliced those last two photos together! Whatta fake!!!

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:47 am

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diplomaticpermissiondeepi wrote:

...This picture...

u snooz/u looz

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today

65,000 £[/url]
(approx. us $131,911)

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Rocknrollcola

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:18 am

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I know he is using a couple of goldtops during this era and this includes during the shows when Lowell George was in the band. But one of those pictures looks like a custom. Maybe it is the lighting in this picture. I am not sure.

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:20 am

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diplomaticpermissiondeepi wrote:

Interesting fact about this photo is that, Don Preston's face actually stayed that way for 2 days, after a change of wind direction. :mrgreen:

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diplomaticpermissiondeepi

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:58 pm

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see above.

thanks for the 500 views so far.

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gulfportdoc

Post subject: Re: '68 and '69 Mothers

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:53 am

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diplomaticpermissiondeepi wrote:

I thought I would start a thesis of the last 2 years of the mothers. Anything of interest please put here.

The 'German' fellow is Lippman Rau promoter. He could be Herr Lippman, or Mr Rau

He was known as "Fritz". He was a very colorful character, who promoted many of our shows in Germany. Reportedly he was a communist, but yet he sure seemed like a free market guy to me! He was one of those larger-than-life Bavarian guys with a great sense of humor.

As a side note, he was responsible for saving Herbie Cohen's life, or at least from serious bodily harm, at our famous show in Berlin where we had the riot. The crowds had started reaching up on stage to grab anything they could steal. During one attempt someone threw something that hit Herbie hard. Herbie was a very tough guy. He went berserk, and was about to jump off the stage into the crowd to start punching people, when Fritz came up behing Herbie. Fritz grabbed him in a big bear hug, and lifted him up into the air while Herbie was kicking and screaming and foaming at the mouth. Fritz dragged him back a ways and calmed him down.Herbie could have been a goner...

Art Tripp

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gulfportdoc

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:15 am

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diplomaticpermissiondeepi wrote:

Not sure what was happening here, Roy Estrada (13th March 2008) thought all this destruction occured in England, buts its France

The gag for the session was that we were supposed to beat the crap out of this car, while it was being filmed and still photoed. I remember seeing the footage years ago, and it was pretty funny. I don't think this was the car that we destroyed. The one we wrecked was probably some discarded car they brought in for that purpose. It was a lot of fun to smack up the car, but you'd be surprised at how hard it is to completely smash up a car with sledge hammers!! The idea was peculiarly French, I thought.

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