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 Post subject: ZPZ - Segue Requests
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:53 am 
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I would love to see the current ZPZ lineup
do a segue of arrangements that appeared on Chunga's Revenge.
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 Post subject: Re: ZPZ - Segue Requests
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:36 pm 
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Segue Heil?


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 Post subject: Re: ZPZ - Segue Requests
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:45 pm 
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brainpang wrote:
Segue Heil?


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Good one :wink:

Could this be the best post in FZ Forum History ???

It's got my vote...

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 Post subject: Re: ZPZ - Segue Requests
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Segue-ing songs from the same album is a great idea, but let's take it just one step further. Wouldn't it be incredible to hear an entire album, played live from start to finish? I believe Steely Dan is doing it on their upcoming tour w/ 1 of 3 albums for a particular venue: Aja, Gaucho and The Royal Scam. How cool would it be to hear DZ play something like OSFA, or Chungas in their entirety?


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cozylittlefooties wrote:
How cool would it be?


Very fucking cool! ZINY also seems like a prime candidate, if they could find some extra horns and get someone to cover Terry Ted's vocals.


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Old Masters, Box One.

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 Post subject: Re: ZPZ - Segue Requests
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:39 am 
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cozylittlefooties wrote:
Segue-ing songs from the same album is a great idea, but let's take it just one step further. Wouldn't it be incredible to hear an entire album, played live from start to finish? I believe Steely Dan is doing it on their upcoming tour w/ 1 of 3 albums for a particular venue: Aja, Gaucho and The Royal Scam. How cool would it be to hear DZ play something like OSFA, or Chungas in their entirety?


I think ZPZ may very well at one point in time do some Album Shows.
As I have stated who knows how long the ZPZ ship will sail and when it stops
how long it will take her to get back into yarn condition.
I'll get into ZPZ after taking a look at two bands who do full album shows.

Steely Dan
Nice that Steely Dan is doing that. The Steely Dan catalog is fairly small but extremely popular. Until
the last decade or so the bands touring history on many of the later 70s releases was little to nothing
so while those albums were commercial successful from a studio production turned radio airplay perspective
so many of those songs never were performed live until long after the albums were released.
Considering all this the demand to hear not only full albums but many songs from those records is there.
Add to that the last two records were by no means chart busters or fan favorites. Concentrating on their most popular
period is what will not only continue to sell expensive seats but make the fans happy.
Being a Steely Dan fan after seeing many shows since they first retooled with NY Rock & Soul Review
this is a welcomed production.

Pink Floyd
Playing the new album in it's entirety seemed the norm for several records when Pink Floyd was a touring band with Phase II Band Members.
Compared to many other bands of that era who only played a selection of new material is part of what made Pink Floyd
a unique and art statement over commercialism venture.
I did find Roger Waters Dark Side Of The Moon shows quite boring and would also feel the same with The Wall but just any other FLoyd
Album in its entirety would be fresh and welcomed. Nothing against Dark Side Of The Moon and The Wall it's just those are examples of albums that are played out.


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So Many Full Albums would work and I don't think the played out factor would apply.
If and when I could see this being adapted where initially
Roxy & Elsewhere, (Apostrophe (') & Overnight Sensation), & Joe's Garage Acts I, II & III
with a selected encore lists could be three examples of Full Album produced shows.
Based on the ZPZ Setlist one can figure out what songs and arrangements
have already been performed and what would need to be added to complete
a given Full Album. Yes Arron Arntz left to concentrate on his own music but
we can all hope for ZPZ to add another keyboard player when that is feasible.
I sincerely hope these festivals and ProgNation bring in new fans because
for ZPZ production standards costs lots of time and money. Fans need
to support that if it can financially continue as a touring business.

I don't know how long it will take for ZPZ to learn the next batch of 100 arrangements
but given the state of the band that is out their on the road the current arrangements
minimally have fresh aromatics with a hybrid green awareness. I don't see a reason
to downtrodden on their accomplishments because a specific keyboard player is not part
of their current arrangements. For now as with many Frank Zappa tours they work well with
a little bit less instrumentation but if and when the orchestral elements expand again additional
elements will be there. Would bringing in the next keyboard player be easier if shows were
Full Album orientated?

To some degree it may have a shorter learning curve with the above mentioned albums.
Lets throw in 10 encore numbers which are a selection of popular fan favorites and extended solo numbers.
As opposed to the many different songs from many different albums and live tours and then adding hybrid arrangement factors
these Full Album Shows could be Phase II The Human CD Juke Box.

FULL SHOWS . Yeah I think that would be interesting. Not because it appears on the surface to be easier to add the next keyboard player
but because maybe some popular Zappa albums deserve wide attention as a full projects to a wider audience.
Yeah I know what about my over strong stance on FZ American Composer.
Well FZ did make those albums projects so why not project orientated tours.

Zappa Plays Zappa - FZ Works On Broadway
But them again since this is a change from what ZPZ has been doing
why not consider some change.
Change One
Not the traditional ZPZ large tours.
Why not concentrate limited performances as
a FZ Works project in Broadway Theater type venues
that can be contracted out for a limited engagement.

I could see these FULL ALBUM shows being a different production.
Concentrating on shows in major cities with a 4 to 8 night run.
Each night having special guest(s) from the album(s)
and a well rounded special guest that fits nicely into the Broadway environment.

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