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 Post subject: Posthumous Albums
PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:27 pm 
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For reasons not worth going into, I am behind on getting the posthumous albums. I'll ask for help to any of those willing. There is no question that I will be getting all of them, but could use some guidance from those of you who are familiar with all the releases. I realize there are threads for those releases, but I am a single father who works 50 hours a week. I've tried to search through some of the past threads, but time is fucking me on that method.

Here is what I have so far:
Lather
Mystery Disc
Everything Is Healing Nicely
Wazoo {absolutely love this release}
One Shot Deal {another favorite}
Joe's Menage
Carnegie Hall
Road Tapes, Venue #1
Finer Moments
Road Tapes, Venue #2
A Token Of His Extreme Soundtrack {very nice sound, in my humble opinion}

I have a Barfko-Swill order on the way:
Trance-Fusion
Feeding The Monkies At Ma Maison

I plan on ordering The MOFO Project/Object (4-CD)-Lumpy Money bundle when I get my income tax refund next month.

I have the funds to get Hammersmith Odeon this week, or I could pick up 2 or 3 other releases. Any thoughts on what I should do? Thanks in advance for any constructive suggestions!


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 Post subject: Re: Posthumous Albums
PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:44 pm 
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Imaginary Diseases is great, especially if Wazoo is up your alley. Then probably Philly and OZ for bang for the buck. FZ Plays the Music of FZ has some great tracks too, but not a whole lot of material there.


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EIHN. Very surprising album.

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GreenHocher wrote:
Imaginary Diseases is great, especially if Wazoo is up your alley. Then probably Philly and OZ for bang for the buck. FZ Plays the Music of FZ has some great tracks too, but not a whole lot of material there.


I was eyeballing Imaginary Diseases. Isn't it like a scaled down version of the Wazoo band?. Philly looks really tasty, but is listed as being on backorder right now. I have the funds to go with Imaginary Diseases and OZ this week. I have all day to decide. Thanks for the input!

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EIHN. Very surprising album.



Thanks polydigm! But, I have that one. I understand it was actually made from rehearsals, but I really enjoy it.


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 Post subject: Re: Posthumous Albums
PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:52 pm 
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Doh!! I don't know how I missed that.

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polydigm wrote:
Doh!! I don't know how I missed that.


No worries. Still open to your future suggestions.

Went with GreenHocher's recommendations this week. Just ordered Imaginary Diseases and OZ.

Open for suggestions for next week.


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 Post subject: Re: Posthumous Albums
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:12 pm 
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Caveat

This is not a critical review. I am one of those who is happy for any genuine FZ musical artefact. Even those that mostly only give me some kind of insight and are educational in some way but which I’ll listen to only a couple of times. FZ is gone. There will be no new full production extravaganzas. The only two things that bug me about the ZFT is that Dance Me This and Rage And The Fury have not been released. I care way more about those two than the fabled Roxy Video.

Acronym Legend

MH = Must Have
HRGM = Hasn’t really grabbed me.
HMUMM = Haven’t Made Up My Mind
ZWHRT = Zappa Would Have Released This
PF = Personal Favourite
BIO = Biographical Interest Only
FZ didn’t appear out of nowhere as a fully formed mature composer. It was quite a journey and albums such as these give some insight into the processes involved.
CCCC = Comme Ci Comme Ca
SRG = Some Relistenable Gems.
I have this back burner project which never gets done, which is to go through all the posthumous albums and edit together a couple of CDs of the real gems. For me a gem has to hang together well as an arrangement, to be played really well and have fairly high quality audio if I’m going to listen to it repeatedly.

Albums

Civilization Phaze III
MH, ZWHRT
The Lost Episodes
MH, ZWHRT
Läther
MH
Frank Zappa Plays The Music Of Frank Zappa, a memorial tribute
BIO
Have I Offended Someone?
CCCC, ZWHRT
Mystery Disc
MH, ZWHRT
Everything Is Healing Nicely
MH, PF
If FZ had not died, just imagine how many more projects he would have done with Ensemble Modern. He probably would not have released this. But, unfortunately he did die and this album is now a unique pocket full of gems.
FZ:OZ
BIO, I guess the studio cut is a gem.
Halloween
CCCC
Seriously? Yawn. Except for Ancient Armaments.
Joe's Corsage
BIO
Clothes Off When You Dance with alternate lyrics - hilarious
QuAUDIOPHILIAc
MH, SRG. I don’t care what anyone else says. You must buy this and you must listen to it in proper surround sound.
Joe's Domage
BIO
Joe's XMASage
BIO
Imaginary Diseases
PF
Trance-Fusion
CCCC
The MOFO Project/Object x2
The MOFO Project/Object x4
MH, BIO These really are good projects. Both are a little like a bulging Xmas stocking when you’re a kid.
Definitely get the x4 if you’re only getting one. If you’ve got the x4, the x2 is still worth buying.
Buffalo
SRG
The Dub Room Special!
SRG
Wazoo
PF, MH, BIO, SRG
One Shot Deal
CCCC, BIO
Joe's Menage
BIO
The Lumpy Money Project/Object
MH, Same comments as for the MOFOs. I personally love FZ’s 80s rework of Lumpy Gravy. And: How Did That Get In Here? A definite highlight and very illuminating.
Philly '76
HMUMM
Greasy Love Songs
Not an extravaganza like the other projects but worth having.
"Congress Shall Make No Law . . . "
BIO
Hammersmith Odeon
BIO, SRG
Feeding The Monkies At Ma Maison
HRGM
Carnegie Hall
BIO The audio quality is a put off for me. I’ve listened to the whole thing through once to get a feel for being there. I use it for reference only.
Understanding America
I’ve defended this album because FZ put it together himself but it’s CCCC.
Road Tapes, Venue #1
Very interesting as a documentary but my ear can’t handle it.
Finer Moments
MH, SRG
Road Tapes, Venue #2
PF, MH, Possibly my favourite ZFT release. I’m a bit jaded by the whole release thing. If they’d released this fifteen years ago it would have blown me totally away.
A Token Of His Extreme Soundtrack
SRG

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 Post subject: Re: Posthumous Albums
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:23 pm 
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Thank you very much! Wasn't looking for critical reviews. This will be quite helpful.


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 Post subject: Re: Posthumous Albums
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Especially if you're on a budget:

Avoid "Joe's Domage", at least until you have everything else.

Philly '76 is great, a female lead vocalist is rare in the FZ canon, and sounds great.


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 Post subject: Re: Posthumous Albums
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Philostopher wrote:
Thank you very much! Wasn't looking for critical reviews. This will be quite helpful.


Finer Moments was put together by Frank, has him conducting Art Tripp on tuned percussion - if you like Burnt Weeny Sandwich, FM is for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Posthumous Albums
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Thanks tweezers, but I already have Finer Moments. It's in my original post. I agree with your comment, and I love Finer Moments.

Just received Imaginary Diseases and OZ. Love both of them, especially Imaginary Diseases. Thanks to GreenHocher for the recommendations.

Just ordered the MOFO Project Object {4 disc}/Lumpy Money bundle and Buffalo. Plus, I have Camouflage on the way.


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polydigm wrote:
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Thanks, very helpful.
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 Post subject: Re: Posthumous Albums
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:51 am 
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The MOFO 4-Disc will keep you busy for days

FZOZ, Philly '76 and Buffalo are pretty representative of their eras. Buffalo has the bonus, IMHO, of good sound.

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 Post subject: Re: Posthumous Albums
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:09 am 
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That's what I'm hoping, since it will be next week before I can place another order. Electric bill is due this week, and abnormally cold weather for this area has shot that bitch through the roof. But, I'm aware I'm not the only one facing that problem right now. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Posthumous Albums
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Philostopher wrote:
That's what I'm hoping, since it will be next week before I can place another order. Electric bill is due this week, and abnormally cold weather for this area has shot that bitch through the roof. But, I'm aware I'm not the only one facing that problem right now. :wink:


OMG, Philostopher, you choose creature comforts like keeping warm over manic purchases of multiple FZ product?

For shame. :mrgreen:

BTW, it is cold and snowy as fuck in New Jersey too. Happy listening!

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My favorite is - A Token Of His Extreme

Great stuff! Great music!


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 Post subject: Re: Posthumous Albums
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All I have left now is Civilization Phaze III, Halloween, and QuAUDIOPHILIAc. These don't appear to be on the Barfko site? I can't find them if they are. Looks like I have to go used CD shopping, and come up off some bucks. I know I'm at least getting one of them this week. :wink:

Forgot about the complete Baby Snakes ST. I'll worry about that last.


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Picked up Civilization Phaze 3 yesterday for a little less than $40. Hoping it's in good shape. Seller had good feedback.


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Philostopher wrote:
Picked up Civilization Phaze 3 yesterday for a little less than $40. Hoping it's in good shape. Seller had good feedback.


Ohh hoo Philo' if you are into FZ's synclavier music this is the album for you....And not only but also the continuing conversations of the old piano people circa 1967 and some modern piano persons, in short something old, something new, something borrowed and nothing blue....severely good via headphones......

Also rates very highly on the official polydigm charts


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Philostopher wrote:
Picked up Civilization Phaze 3 yesterday for a little less than $40. Hoping it's in good shape. Seller had good feedback.
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Ohh hoo Philo' if you are into FZ's synclavier music this is the album for you....And not only but also the continuing conversations of the old piano people circa 1967 and some modern piano persons, in short something old, something new, something borrowed and nothing blue....severely good via headphones......

Also rates very highly on the official polydigm charts
rates very highly on my chart too. my favorite zappa album. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Posthumous Albums
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And not only but also the continuing conversations of the old piano people circa 1967


It's definitely my fault, but I enjoy the conversations most - still haven't found a way to get into the music; probably because I'm not a musician...

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I quite often listen to Lump Gravy followed by CP3 the conceptual continuity gets me every time...

I'm a sucker for the synclavier soundscapes, it's like taking a trip, without, taking a trip, if you know what I mean.


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Gray_Ghost wrote:
I quite often listen to Lump Gravy followed by CP3 the conceptual continuity gets me every time....

The other day I listened to the mono version of WOIFTM from Lumpy Money. After the long piano chord that finishes off The Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny I asked myself what could possibly follow that... Answer: N-Lite - it fit beautifully.

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Philostopher wrote:
Picked up Civilization Phaze 3 yesterday for a little less than $40. Hoping it's in good shape. Seller had good feedback.


Ohh hoo Philo' if you are into FZ's synclavier music this is the album for you....And not only but also the continuing conversations of the old piano people circa 1967 and some modern piano persons, in short something old, something new, something borrowed and nothing blue....severely good via headphones......

Also rates very highly on the official polydigm charts


Just realized that I've been a busy buyer since January. :mrgreen:

I'm definitely excited about this one. I found a new copy for $100, but felt that was a bit much.


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Love Civilization Phaze III! I am a little disappointed though. The seller graded the copy as very good. The discs are clean. No problems there. There is a little wear on the black pages across from the discs. To be expected. But, there are two pretty good nicks at the bottom of the digipack, across from the spine. You can't see it when it is stored in the rack, but I know it is there. Yes, I am that anal. :oops:

Just pulled the trigger on a copy of Halloween for $34. It is graded very good from a seller with 100% positive feedback, but the last one had 100% positive too. We shall see?


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