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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:31 pm 
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Yes Kiirk life is a constant metamorphosis of change, but some of the changes are supposedly completed...i.e. the person in a mental Hospital is released, the prisoner is paroled, the alcoholic no longer drinks, the drug abuser stops using, the marriage counselor no longer see’s the couple, and the Therapist takes you off medication and you no longer go to sessions. These things happen every day and these people’s lives go on to new changes and metamorphosis’s, it sounds to me that MZ has not yet become a butterfly that can rise above her past demons, whatever their cause real or imagined.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:06 pm 
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Plook! I was kidding. :wink: Sorry you walked into it. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:24 pm 
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Plook! I was kidding. :wink: Sorry you walked into it. :mrgreen:


I don't mind being the strait man.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:46 pm 
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I think I'm ready to move over to the Calvin camp. I'm pretty exhausted with this subject. In the end it is the music that matters.


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I think I'm ready to move over to the Calvin camp. I'm pretty exhausted with this subject. In the end it is the music that matters.


I'm done.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:19 am 
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I read it. Very enlightening. Sounds like it's rough being a Zappa.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:47 am 
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I'll bet anyone a hundred bucks that Moon has already received offers for a full-length memoir.
Will she do it? I say no, don't think so.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:25 am 
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I enjoyed Moon's outlook on Motherhood.
I found the examples she gave was to create context against
what people think of being modern parents like a dad changing a diaper
is all about. Not much of the Zappa family stuff is all that new for FZ/GZs
and all their children who are now all adults have talked of much of this stuff for many years.
Frank was Frank, Gail was Gail and those kids who are now adults not only grew up so much more together
than your average Hollywood rehab case but somehow always escaped those troubles.
Yes many things look unconventional in the traditional white picket fence
American Family way but Frank put his family #1.

Not to focus on Daddy doing a diaper but any given parent
comes from an upbringing where they may say I am going to do things differently
but in the end Moon shows us a proverbial lesson.

So any parent goes about doing some things differently because maybe they don't
want their kids to be subjected to some of the behavior or lack there of that they had
when they were a adolescent. Does that change make it all cotton candy or the family?
Hey I get sick of cotton candy. I liked it when I was a kid but when you grow up
you learn there are more important things than cotton candy.
Some kids will do anything to get the cotton candy. There are certain things where
the parent gets in middle of things and mediate the narcotic desire for the metaphoric cotton candy.


That's why we have parents to teach us in their own way.
Right & Wrong of parenting can be criticized until cows learn how to fly.
Be it if we parent exactly as our parents did or we do things differently
I get the point that there is no perfect parenting template.
You just go about doing it your own way where the lessons of life
and parenting sometimes and I repeat sometimes just happen the same way you get your DNA.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:30 am 
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Damn Trendy your late to the party...thats like me being late for dinner...LOL.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:34 am 
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Plook wrote:
Damn Trendy your late to the party...thats like me being late for dinner...LOL.

Just one of those topics I let people say their peace before I get involved.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:33 am 
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Trendmonger wrote:
but Frank put his family #1.



Perhaps I am old fashioned, perhaps I have a lack of facts but I'm not sure I can agree with that statement. Frank put himself first. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he did. The man was a genius and we have some of the best music by any human being in history as a result of Frank putting himself first. Where I have issues though is with Frank not keeping it in his pants while having a wife and young children. That is why I cannot accept your statement Trendy.

Maybe Frank changed. If he did keep it in his pants by the late 70's & 80's then yeah I'll cut him some slack. To his credit I've not come across any stories of him playing around other than the early 70's.

It is a difficult one. Frank is a hero and I used to deny Frank was anything other than a role model family man but the truth is the truth. It doesn't make me like Frank any less and it certainly doesn't matter to the music. I can however disagree with Frank on this behaviour although on the whole there is very little I disagree with Frank on.


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Trendmonger wrote:
Just one of those topics I let people say their peace before I get involved.

"say their peace"? :roll:

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Just one of those topics I let people say their peace before I get involved.

"say their peace"? :roll:

Mr Helper, We know what he meant so there...their


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KillUgly wrote:
I think I'm ready to move over to the Calvin camp. I'm pretty exhausted with this subject. In the end it is the music that matters.


When you come to Calvin's, the 'olidays forever. Welcome.

(I'm probably a fake messiah too.)

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This just dawned on me: maybe Dweezil is crying all the time because his wife has his balls in a vice?


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Diesel Dummy wrote:
Lumpy Gravy wrote:
Trendmonger wrote:
Just one of those topics I let people say their peace before I get involved.

"say their peace"? :roll:

Mr Helper, We know what he meant so there...their


Phreaking A,DD; I've seen you and thats the best Self-Portrait I've seen! Bar none.Van Gogh did not catch the inner turmoil that one picture captures of yourself,I,we, well we just did not know you were so tormented inside that manifested text.Can anyone ease the pain?
With a bullet? Talk to us first? :mrgreen:

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Phreaking A,DD; I've seen you and thats the best Self-Portrait I've seen! Bar none.Van Gogh did not catch the inner turmoil that one picture captures of yourself,I,we, well we just did not know you were so tormented inside that manifested text.Can anyone ease the pain?
With a bullet? Talk to us first? :mrgreen:


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Lumpy Gravy wrote:
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Just one of those topics I let people say their peace before I get involved.

"say their peace"? :roll:

Yeah: so he can disturb it...

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Phreaking A,DD; I've seen you and thats the best Self-Portrait I've seen! Bar none.Van Gogh did not catch the inner turmoil that one picture captures of yourself,I,we, well we just did not know you were so tormented inside that manifested text.Can anyone ease the pain?
With a bullet? Talk to us first? :mrgreen:


YOU BE NICE TO US THEN WE BE NICE TO YOOOU!


MUSIC IS THE BEST!

MUSIC IS THE BEST!

MUSIC IS THE BEST! :mrgreen:

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brainpang wrote:
This just dawned on me: maybe Dweezil is crying all the time because his wife has his balls in a vice?

PM from BRAINFART...hello, retard -- i hope you feel swell about yourself. when you are ready to hook up let me know. you are my type. oodles, bp You are a brave thing, hairy man ape. I look forward to our next "savage" meeting. I think I need a doctor.

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Diesel Dummy wrote:
brainpang wrote:
This just dawned on me: maybe Dweezil is crying all the time because his wife has his balls in a vice?

PM from BRAINFART...hello, retard -- i hope you feel swell about yourself. when you are ready to hook up let me know. you are my type. oodles, bp You are a brave thing, hairy man ape. I look forward to our next "savage" meeting. I think I need a doctor.


DD you have to give up stalking posters around the forum, your losing your cred...when you’re not plagiarizing you have absolutely no natural creativity and you just seem petty and weak. I recommend that you stick to the two threads we agreed to let you go on your plagiarized rants, your exposing your shortcomings.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:09 am 
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Plook wrote:
Diesel Dummy wrote:
brainpang wrote:
This just dawned on me: maybe Dweezil is crying all the time because his wife has his balls in a vice?

PM from BRAINFART...hello, retard -- i hope you feel swell about yourself. when you are ready to hook up let me know. you are my type. oodles, bp You are a brave thing, hairy man ape. I look forward to our next "savage" meeting. I think I need a doctor.


DD you have to give up stalking posters around the forum, your losing your cred...when you’re not plagiarizing you have absolutely no natural creativity and you just seem petty and weak. I recommend that you stick to the two threads we agreed to let you go on your plagiarized rants, your exposing your shortcomings.

DID SOMEONE SAY ASS ?..... SHUT THE FUCK UP FRAT-BOY

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Yes DD I suspected you would continue to suck the dick of non-creative response in order to get the spooge of telentlessness from its nuts...did someone say HACK-PLAGERIST!


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Plook wrote:
Yes DD I suspected you would continue to suck the dick of non-creative response in order to get the spooge of telentlessness from its nuts...did someone say HACK-PLAGERIST!

Plook is a homo
Plook is a faggot
Plook is a cocksucker
Plook is very very gay
Plook is a buttsniffer
Plook is a buttfucker
Plook is a Liberal
Plook is a homophile
Plook is a smelly Asshole
Plook is Gay
Plook is looking for dark hole's of other men
Plook Loves Cock
Plook is A Transvestite
Plook is A Load Eater
If there are any more suggestion's from people out there please post them Immediately yours truly SaggyNuts

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Diesel Dummy wrote:
Plook wrote:
Yes DD I suspected you would continue to suck the dick of non-creative response in order to get the spooge of telentlessness from its nuts...did someone say HACK-PLAGERIST!

Plook is a homo
Plook is a faggot
Plook is a cocksucker
Plook is very very gay
Plook is a buttsniffer
Plook is a buttfucker
Plook is a Liberal
Plook is a homophile
Plook is a smelly Asshole
Plook is Gay
Plook is looking for dark hole's of other men
Plook Loves Cock
Plook is A Transvestite

Plook is A Load Eater
If there are any more suggestion's from people out there please post them Immediately yours truly SaggyNuts



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