Zappa.com

The Official Frank Zappa Messageboards
It is currently Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:51 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 1289 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 ... 52  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:13 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:22 am
Posts: 934
SPACEBROTHER wrote:

Any of you other lemming chumps want to draq my dead father into a conversation about gun control or tell me if I show up in your neighborhood that you'll stick a gun into my mouth?


That was never said , asshole and if I remember correctly , nobody ever brought your family into the discussion , except you.

You're loosing all credibility , creep. :oops:

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:10 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:27 pm
Posts: 5737
Location: echoing through the canyons of your mind
pedro2 wrote:
...and if I remember correctly , nobody ever brought your family into the discussion , except you.


Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:58 am - viewtopic.php?p=582117#p582117

from yesterday...
pedro2 wrote:
And aren't you the guy that posted that somebody was disrespecting your dead father...


Your empty threats and desperation to turn the gun debate into a topic about me, and now my dad R.I.P. are the actions of a loser with a volatile temperment.


Pathetic :roll:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:28 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:27 pm
Posts: 5737
Location: echoing through the canyons of your mind
If anybody doesn't like the conversation in this thread, don't read it, or better yet, put me on ignore. If you feel the need to participate in lemming type activities, expect to to recieve what you dish out.

MAJOR SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE 1997 ----->Part 2: 2010

Panama City, FL
12/14/2010
Ex-convict Clay Duke held a Florida school board a gunpoint firing several
shots before shooting himself. No one else was hurt. The entire incident
was caught on video. (School board shooting: Clay Duke turns gun on
himself after confrontation, WASHINGTON POST, December 15, 2010)

Aurora, CO
12/06/2010
A 17-year-old female student was shot in the torso outside Aurora Central
High School as she talked with classmates. Witnesses say two shots were
fired into the crowd of students. No one else was hurt. The shooting
prompted a lockdown at the high school, five elementary schools and a
middle school. A 19-year-old boy was arrested in connection with what
police said may have been a gang-related shooting. (Female student, 17,
shot outside Aurora Central High School, Denver Post, December 8,
2010)

Garden City, SC
12/04/2010
A person leaving basketball practice at Groves High School was hit by a
bullet when someone fired multiple shots at two cars. The victim was
treated and released from a local hospital. The victim, who had been
watching basketball practice, was not a student at the school. (Arek
Sarkissian II, Man shot after watching basketball practice at Groves High
School, police say, SAVANNAH MORNING NEWS, December 7, 2010)

Chicago, IL
11/29/2010
A 17-year-old Thornridge High School student was shot and injured during
an armed robbery outside the school in south suburban Dolton. The
shooting occurred after school hours. Police arrested a 14 and a 15-yearold
in connection to the crimes. The pair fled after the shooting but
authorities apprehended them a short time later. (Student Shot at South
Suburban High School, CHICAGO SUN TIMES, November 30, 2010)

Marinette, WI
11/28/2010
A 15-year-old student shot a film projector and held 23 classmates and a
teacher hostage for about five hours at Marinette High School. The shooter
had two pistols, knives and more than 200 rounds of ammunition. He
fatally shot himself when police broke down the classroom door. (Answers
sought in northern Wis. hostage situation, ASSOCIATED PRESS, December
2, 2010)

Fairfield, CA
10/11/2010
A 29-year-old man was shot to death in the parking lot of Armijo High
School. Two people, including a 19-year-old, were arrested. Police said the
shooting was not connected to the high school campus. Investigators
believe the fight was arranged by gangs intent on settling a feud. (2nd
Suspect Arrested In Fairfield School Shooting, CBS 13 SACRAMENTO,
November 24, 2010)

Selma, AL
10/25/2010
Shots were fired into a classroom at Payne Elementary School from
outside after school was over for the day. A teacher was in the classroom
but was unharmed. Nobody was injured. (Selma Police Look for School
Shooting Suspect, WSFA - TV 12 MONTGOMERY, October 26, 2010)

Carlsbad, CA
10/8/2010
A man jumped the fence at Kelly Elementary School and opened fire on
children playing outside at lunchtime. When his gun jammed, nearby
construction workers tackled him. Two girls, ages six and seven, were
injured. Neighbors report the shooter often screamed obscenities and
racial epithets, and that the police had been called repeatedly. (Workers
hailed for halting school shooting suspect, ASSOCIATED PRESS, October 11,
2010)

Elizabeth City, NC
10/3/2010
A student fatally shot another student in the victim’s dorm room at Mid-
Atlantic University on Sunday afternoon. The University said the shooting
stemmed from a conflict between the two individuals. (Police: NC Bible
college student killed in dorm, ASSOCIATED PRESS, October 4, 2010)

Austin, TX
9/28/2010
A 19-year-old student fatally shot himself in the main library at the
University of Texas with an AK-47 assault rifle. He ran through parts of the
campus and fired several shots into the air before entering the library and
killing himself. (Russell Goldman, Gunman at University of Texas Austin
Identified as Sophomore Math Major Colton Tooley, ABC NEWS,
September 28, 2010)

Columbia, SC
9/21/2010
A student confronted and shot at a resource officer at Socastee High
School. The officer sustained minor injuries as the bullet hit the officer after
ricochet off a wall. The student, working with another student, had also
planted pipe bombs around the school. The bombs were removed and
disarmed by police without injury. (Susanne M. Schafer, SC principal: 2nd
student questioned in shooting, ASSOCIATED PRESS, September 22, 2010)


Moss Bluff, LA
9/16/2010
A student fatally shot himself at St. Theodore/Holy Family School at the
start of the school day. (Kate Mundy, Bishop Releases Statement on
School Shooting, KATC- TV 3 LAFAYETTE, LA, September 16, 2010)

Las Cruces, NM
9/7/2010
A 17-year-old fired a handgun during a fight between several teenagers
during a volleyball game at Las Cruces High School. (3 More Teens
Arrested In Las Cruces High School Shooting Incident, KVIA – TV 7 EL
PASO, September 14, 2010)

Detroit, MI
9/7/2010
A 14-year-old girl and a 16-year-old boy were shot outside Mumford High
School on their first day of the school. A fight had began inside the school
but spilled outside. (Mumford High School Shooting: 2 Students Shot In
Detroit, HUFFINGTON POST, September 7, 2010)

Omaha, NE
8/18/2010
A 15-year-old fired a gun on a school bus on the way home from Burke
High School. Nobody was injured. Officials were unaware of the incident
until it was reported by a parent the next day. A 16-year-old was found with
a gun at the same school the next day. (Gun Fired Aboard Omaha School
Bus, KETV – TV 7 OMAHA, August 19, 2010)

South Gate, CA
5/18/2010
A 17-year-old shot a 15-year-old student in the abdomen at South Gate
High School. The shooter attended a neighboring high school. (Teen held
for LA-area school shooting, ASSOCIATED PRESS, May 18, 2010)

Portsmouth, VA
4/29/2010
A student entered Wilson High School through a back door and fired
several shots inside the school. Nobody was injured. (Cheryl Ross & Janie
Bryant, After shooting, Wilson High students wary about security,
VIRGINIAN-PILOT, April 30, 2010)

Baton Rouge, LA
3/23/2010
Four middle school students were arrested for bringing a gun onto school
grounds and firing it near a practice field. No one was injured during the
incident. (Deputies arrest 4 students after school shooting, WAFB-TV 9
BATON ROUGE, March 26, 2010)

Columbus, OH
3/9/2010
A disgruntled Ohio State University maintence employee, who had recently
been fired from his job, opened fire in a campus facilities building, killing a
maintenance manager and wounding another co-worker before he turned
the gun on himself. The shooter had been in prison previously. (Leslie
Tripp,Suspect kills self in Ohio State shooting, police say, CNN, March 9,
2010)

Littleton, CO
2/23/2010
A 32-year-old man shot at students as they left Deer Creek Middle School
at the end of the day. Two students were injured before a math teacher
tackled the shooter. The shooter used his father's rifle in the attack.
(Nicholas Riccardi, Math teacher hailed as hero after Colorado school
shooting, LOS ANGELES TIMES, February 25, 2010)

DeKalb, IL
2/19/2010
One student was injured and another placed into police custody after a
shooting on the campus of Northern Illinois University. The shoting was
caused by an altercation between the shooter and victim. (NIU Shooting
Leaves 1 Hurt, 1 in Custody, ASSOCIATED PRESS, February 19, 2010)

Huntsville, AL
2/12/2010
A professor opened fire 50 minutes into at a Biological Sciences
Department faculty meeting at the University of Alabama, killing three
colleagues and wounding three others. The shooter had a history of
violence: she shot and killed her brother in 1986, was possibly involved in
an attempted mail bombing, and was convicted of disorderly conduct, and
assault and battery in an incident in 2002. The gun used in shooting was
bought from the shooter’s husband in 1989 by a friend in New Hampshire
to avoid a waiting period in Massachusetts. (Emanuella Grinberg, Judge
sends Alabama university shooting case to grand jury, CNN, March 24,
2010. Aaron Cooper & Brooke Baldwin, Police: University shooting
suspect was charged after fight in 2002, CNN, February 17, 2010)

Knoxville, TN
2/10/2010
A teacher shot and wounded the principal and assistant principal in their
offices at Inskip Elementary School, where all three worked. (Tonja Bur,
Knoxville elementary principal Elisa Luna, injured in school shooting,
trasnferred to Atlanta hospital, IR-TV 10 KNOXVILLE, February 17, 2010)

Madison, AL
2/5/2010
A 14-year-old student was shot and killed between classes at Discovery
Middle School. The suspect in police custody is a fellow ninth grade
student. (Yvonne T. Betowt, Madison coming to grips with Discovery Middle
School shooting, THE HUNTSVILLE TIMES, February 7, 2010)

Livingston, AL
1/20/2010
A high school teacher was shot multiple times outside her school in what
police believe was a domestic incident. The suspect was caught 30 miles
from the scene after causing a traffic accident. (Wayne Grayson Livingston
teacher shot outside school, THE TUSCALOOSA NEWS, January 21, 2010)

Phoenix, AZ
1/7/2010
A 16 year old former student shot three students outside Esperanza
Charter School. The shooter argued with two 19 year olds and then shot
them. A 10 year old boy was also grazed with a bullet. Police believe the
shooting was gang related. (Police: Triple shooting near north Phoenix
school is gang related, ASSOCIATED PRESS, January 8, 2010)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:30 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:22 am
Posts: 934
Your self righteousness and inability to think coherently are the signs of a brainwashed individual with delusions of grandeur.

Couple this with your illogical thought processes that diminish any conception of reality makes one wonder how you have survived this long in the outside world.

It doesn't even work in your nanny state of mind where blame is put on inanimate objects .

Now , go away from me , kid.

Ya bother me.

:P


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:39 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:27 pm
Posts: 5737
Location: echoing through the canyons of your mind
If it bothers you so much, why comment on or even read it?

Trying to turn the gun control subject into a discussion about me (and now my dad RIP) is a typical manuever of desperation to compensate for your lack of imagination to formulate a thought provoking counter debate. It's a typical ploy that failures and losers use.





I might as well utilise the rest of this post for my other list...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


EXAMPLES OF ASSAULT WEAPON VIOLENCE
REPORTED SINCE BAN EXPIRED IN 2004 ----->Part 2: 2010


Newark, NJ
12/23/2010
Two sixteen-year-old boys were shot and killed while three other teens
were wounded in what police believe may likely have been a drive-by
attack involving several shooters. A submachine gun and a handgun used
in the shooting were found on the scene by police. (Newark shootings
leave four dead, six wounded since Thursday, THE STAR-LEDGER,
December 24, 2010)

Newark, NJ
12/23/2010
A man on his way to pick up his child was shot and killed while a friend
accompanying him was also seriously wounded. Police have described the
shooting as an “assassination” and believe that three men were lying in
wait to ambush the victim. The attackers were armed with an assault rifle
and two handguns. (Newark shootings leave four dead, six wounded since
Thursday, THE STAR-LEDGER, December 24, 2010)

Bryan, OH
12/20/2010
A man armed with an assault rifle fired four shots at a police station and
then fled in a car. Shortly after, police located the car. When confronted by
police and ordered to drop his gun the man began shooting at police.
Police fired back and wounded the man before any officers were injured.
(Gunman attacks police station, suspect wounded in shootout, THE
JOURNAL GAZETTE, December 31, 2010)

Boston, MA
10/23/2010
A convenience store was the target of a shooting that left one woman killed
and one man seriously injured. The identity of the shooter is unknown
although police have identified the weapon used as an AK-47 assault rifle.
The same shooter is believed to have been the culprit involved in another
shooting nearby that left two more men wounded earlier in the day. (Maria
Cramer and John R. Ellement, Killer in Roxbury shooting used an AK-47
assault rifle, officials say, BOSTON GLOBE, October 25, 2010)

Buffalo. NY
9/31/2010
A 15-year-old girl was shot and killed in her home. She was the victim of a
drive-by shooting. Over 15 rounds were fired into the home where five
children aged six to 16 and one adult lived. Police believe the gun used
was likely an assault rifle. (By-Standers Say Teen Was Not Intended
Target, WKBW TV7 Buffalo, October 2, 2010)

Austin, TX
9/28/2010
A 19-year-old student wearing ski mask shot off several shots from his AK-
47 assault rifle into the air before killing himself. (Russell Goldman,
Gunman at University of Texas Austin identified as sophomore math major
Colton Tooley, ABC 7 WORLD NEWS, September 28, 2001

Seattle, WA
9/3/2010
Police were called when a man armed with an assault rifle was threatening
suicide. When officers began to move towards his home, he fired one shot
at them before he was wounded by the return fire of the officers. A pistol
and rifle were also found in his home. (Levi Pulkkinen, Gun-toting man shot
by Seattle police charged with assault, SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER,
September 8, 2010)

Indianapolis, IN
8/2/2010
Late at night a masked man armed with an assault rifle got out of a car and
fired numerous rounds into party gathering at a person’s home. The
shooter killed two and wounded six others. (Indianapolis woman shot dead
at party at her home¸ CNN, August 3, 2010)

Philadelphia, PA
7/15/2010
Two police officers stopped a white van based on reports of armed men in
the area when two of the three men jumped out of the car firing and fled the
scene. The men were armed with an AK-47 and a SKS assault rifles. They
fired multiple rounds at the officers and wounded one. The officers returned
fire and managed to subdue the driver who had also tried to flee. Police
found a stash of guns in the vehicle including two AR-15 assault rifles and
four handguns. (Julie Shaw, Wounding of cop in Kensington a chilling
reminder of Liczbinski case, Philadelphia Daily News, July 17, 2010)

Lancaster, TX
6/20/2010
A man armed with a handgun shot and killed another man who was driving
by slowly with his girlfriend and two children in the car. The shooter fled in a
vehicle and tossed his handgun in favor of an assault rifle. Police tracked
down the shooter who promptly began firing on officers. He killed one
officer before being shot and killed himself. (Tanya Eiserer and Scott
Goldstein, Killer of two in Lancaster shootout was Dallas police chief’s son,

DALLAS MORNING NEWS, June 22, 2010)
5/20/2010
West Memphis, AR
A man and his 16-year-old son were pulled over by police officers in a
routine traffic stop when suddenly the son jumped out of the vehicle and
began firing upon two officers with an AK-47 assault rifle killing them both.
They immediately sped off to make an escape but were tracked down and
killed in and killed in a firefight with police hours later. (Dan Harris, Deadly
Arkansas shooting by “Sovereigns” Jerry and Joe Kane who shun U.S. law,
ABC WORLD NEWS, July 1, 2010)

Los Angeles, CA
5/6/2010
A man broke into the house of his ex-girlfriend armed with an assault rifle.
The man killed two people and wounded two others before police arrived
and were able to stop him. (Former boyfriend held in deadly LA-area
shooting, ASSOCIATED PRESS, May 6, 2010)

Pinal County, AZ
4/30/2010
A deputy of the Pinal County Sheriff’s Department was wounded with a
shot to his abdomen from an AK-47 assault rifle. He was hit during a
shootout in the desert with five men thought to be drug smugglers as the
deputy had discovered several large bales of marijuana before coming
upon the five men. (Deputy Shot in Arizona, ASSOCIATED PRESS, April 30,
2010)

Washington D.C.
3/30/2010
Five men were involved in a drive-by shooting attacking a crowd of
mourners who had gathered at the funeral of a man slain in a shooting the
previous week. The men wore masks and were armed with an AK-47
assault rifle and two pistols. The shooters wounded six and killed three
young men aged 19, 18, and 16. (Keith Alexander, One of five charged in
D.C. shootings strike plea deal, WASHINGTON POST, April 30, 2010)

Washington D.C.
3/22/2010
Four men arrived outside a party at an apartment building in Southeast
D.C. armed with an AK-47 assault rifle, a shotgun, and a semi-automatic
handgun. They fired multiple rounds at people attending the party
wounding two and killing one. The shooting was motivated by one of the
men who claimed his bracelet had been stolen while attending the party
earlier. (Keith Alexander, One of five men charged in D.C. shootings strike
plea deal, WASHINGTON POST, April 30, 2010)

Vicksburg, MS
3/4/2010
Two men armed with SKS assault rifles robbed a grocery store. They fled
in a car but were followed by the owner of the store who had armed
himself. The owner followed them until they flipped their car off the road.
Both men exited the vehicle and began firing at the owner as they fled on
foot. The store owner shot back and wounded one of the men. Police found
the dead body of one of the men nearby along with stolen merchandise.
(Body Found Following Vicksburg Robbery, Chase, Shootout, WAPT TV
ABC 16 Vicksburg, March 5, 2010)

Fresno, CA
2/25/2010
One police officer was killed and two others were injured in a shootout with
a former security guard. Almost 400 rounds were fired in all after the
officers entered the man’s home to serve a search warrant. The man was
armed with an arsenal of guns that included an assault rifle, 5 handguns,
and 4 rifles. (Suspect Named in Shooting Death of California Deputy,
ASSOCIATED PRESS, February 26, 2010)

St. Louis, MO
1/7/2010
A disgruntled employee of an ABB factory in St. Louis went on a rampage
killing three co-workers and wounding five others before killing himself. He
was armed with an assault rifle, a shotgun, and two handguns. (Liz
Robbins, Gunman Kills 3 Co-workers in St. Louis Factory Then Himself,
NEW YORK TIMES, June 8, 2010)

Atlanta, GA
1/1/2010
A four-year-old boy was shot and killed while attending a church service
with his parents celebrating the new year. The bullet travelled through the
roof of the church before striking the boy in the head. Experts said that the
bullet most likely came from and AK-47 assault rifle and that was fired into
the air in during a celebration from over two miles away. (Rhonda Cook,
Boy most likely shot by rifle fired into the air, ATLANTA JOURNALCONSTITUTION,
January 2, 2010)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:21 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:37 pm
Posts: 338
You want to take my what ?
Image

_________________
Banned
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/banned


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:58 pm
Posts: 13142
Location: Home of The Mondavi Center.
Only Little Sally could make guns a pathway to porn. :roll:

_________________
I'm getting larger as I walk away.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:05 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:11 pm
Posts: 3562
Location: Vancouver, BC
tweedle-dumb wrote:
Disco Boy wrote:
Cut the BS, tweedle-dumb. Slightly revising my statement is NOT backtracking, nor is what you're claiming anywhere near 100% accurate. YOU are the one ignoring my very important questions.

ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

If you think the Brady Bill made a difference then why have the firearm rates NOT SIGNIFICANTLY increased since the 2004 expiration of the Brady Bill? And considering this, why are the rates still FAR lower than they were in the early '90s? :roll:



The rates went down significantly after the Brady Bill was enacted, and they have been climbing since it expired...period. It's a statistical fact. Any increase is significant, whether it's by one person, or one million persons.

Go ahead, be like pedro2 and drag my deceased dad into your argument.


Any of you other lemming chumps want to draq my dead father into a conversation about gun control or tell me if I show up in your neighborhood that you'll stick a gun into my mouth?


What a crock of shit. You're STILL not answering my questions, asshole. Firstly, you may not know this but the rates were ALREADY decreasing by the time the Brady Bill was enacted in 1993. Secondly, since the Brady Bill expired, the rates have BARELY increased - in fact, they're virtually the same.

Let's try this again...

SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

If you think the Brady Bill made a difference then why have the firearm rates NOT SIGNIFICANTLY increased since the 2004 expiration of the Brady Bill? And considering this, why are the rates still FAR lower than they were in the early '90s?

The only statistical FACT here is that you're DELUSIONAL. :roll:

Little_Sally wrote:
You want to take my what ?
Image


Is that actually you?!

If so, pm me... :wink:

_________________
:53 - :57...

"...I'm absolutely a Libertarian on MANY issues..." ~ Frank Zappa, Rochester, NY, March 11, 1988


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:16 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:33 am
Posts: 3548
Anyone here with a gun that can put this thread out of its misery?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:58 pm
Posts: 13142
Location: Home of The Mondavi Center.
brainpang wrote:
Anyone here with a gun that can put this thread out of its misery?


Only Little Billy Sally could make guns a "gateway to porn" issue on a thread about gun control. :roll:
It's all about him. :evil:

_________________
I'm getting larger as I walk away.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:12 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:27 pm
Posts: 5737
Location: echoing through the canyons of your mind
tweedle-dumber wrote:
tweedle-dumb wrote:
tweedle-dumber wrote:
Cut the BS, tweedle-dumb. Slightly revising my statement is NOT backtracking, nor is what you're claiming anywhere near 100% accurate. YOU are the one ignoring my very important questions.

ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

If you think the Brady Bill made a difference then why have the firearm rates NOT SIGNIFICANTLY increased since the 2004 expiration of the Brady Bill? And considering this, why are the rates still FAR lower than they were in the early '90s? :roll:



The rates went down significantly after the Brady Bill was enacted, and they have been climbing since it expired...period. It's a statistical fact. Any increase is significant, whether it's by one person, or one million persons.



What a crock of shit. You're STILL not answering my questions, asshole. Firstly, you may not know this but the rates were ALREADY decreasing by the time the Brady Bill was enacted in 1993. Secondly, since the Brady Bill expired, the rates have BARELY increased - in fact, they're virtually the same.

Let's try this again...

SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

If you think the Brady Bill made a difference then why have the firearm rates NOT SIGNIFICANTLY increased since the 2004 expiration of the Brady Bill? And considering this, why are the rates still FAR lower than they were in the early '90s?

The only statistical FACT here is that you're DELUSIONAL. :roll:


SON. OF. WHO. GIVES. A. SHIT. WHAT. YOU. THINK.

Bottom line, the rates decreased by around 60% from the time that the Brady Bill was enacted through the time it was allowed to expire, and they have increased since.

Your question is a moot point. You revise your response with every new post, trying to fit a square peg into a round hole with your pointy little head.


If you want reasons why the rate has NOT gone up back by 60% higher - overall nationally, you take into account a number of obvious variables...
- population growth rates per geographic locations
- better tracking with he internet
- since 9/11 happened, security and law enforcment has drastically improved and become more efficient
- gun ownership versus crime rates per household, overall, didn't technically spike "significantly", until recently...you're going to hate the stats for this year and last year when I post them...I guarantee it.
- the states with the highest gun ownerships and weakest laws did see "significant" increases over the states that have lower gun ownership rates (per 100K populance) and stricter laws * my next list will be state by state statistics -


You keep bringing up this notion of delusion, but I'm not the one readjusting my argument with each post. I'll gladly do a state by state by population growth rate by gun ownership rate by law enforcement analysis just for you. I guarantee you're not going to like the results. Thats actually going to be my next list after I complete the assault weapons crimes and shool shootings lists. Consider that a spoiler alert.

Bottom line again, the rates decreased by around 60% between the time the Brady Bill was enacted, and have increased since it expired. Period. This years stats already have a sharp increase rate, and I'll be putting those statistics up with my next list....stay tuned...




Can you post a link to your source for the decrease in gun crime prior to the Brady Bill, if you indeed actually do have one that isn't sourced from a partisan pro-gun advocacy group?


Last edited by SPACEBROTHER on Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:13 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:13 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:37 pm
Posts: 338
KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
brainpang wrote:
Anyone here with a gun that can put this thread out of its misery?


Only Little Billy Sally could make guns a "gateway to porn" issue on a thread about gun control. :roll:
It's all about him. :evil:

Really? REALLY ? Really ?
Image

_________________
Banned
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/banned


Last edited by Little_Sally on Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:15 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:14 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:19 am
Posts: 4805
Location: in deepest, darkest Germany
Disco Boy wrote:

Little_Sally wrote:
You want to take my what ?
Image


Is that actually you?!

If so, pm me... :wink:


So you would find being shot by a hotpanted teenager more pleasurable than being shot by a slobbering, unshaven psychopath? I can't see the difference myself - the end result is the same...

_________________
"I have learned from my mistakes, and I am sure I can repeat them exactly."


Last edited by Caputh on Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:25 am, edited 2 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:17 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:58 pm
Posts: 13142
Location: Home of The Mondavi Center.
It always comes back to someone's butt, doesn't it Little Salad? You like that rear action don't you boy! :roll:

_________________
I'm getting larger as I walk away.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:13 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:37 pm
Posts: 338
Gun Control is Why Chicago Murder Rates Are Skyrocketing
Gun control policies don’t work because they disarm citizens while keeping criminals in possession of guns. Chicago’s strict policies have effectively given lawbreakers a monopoly on weapons in many parts of the city that the Chicago Police Department cannot or will not police effectively.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/22622/gun-control-is-why-chicago-murder-rates-are-skyrocketing

_________________
Banned
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/banned


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:27 pm
Posts: 5737
Location: echoing through the canyons of your mind
Just in case you missed it...

Image

You have better odds getting murdered from a gun wacko in Montana than you do in Chicago.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:11 pm
Posts: 3562
Location: Vancouver, BC
tweedle-dumb wrote:
Disco Boy wrote:
What a crock of shit. You're STILL not answering my questions, asshole. Firstly, you may not know this but the rates were ALREADY decreasing by the time the Brady Bill was enacted in 1993. Secondly, since the Brady Bill expired, the rates have BARELY increased - in fact, they're virtually the same.

Let's try this again...

SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

If you think the Brady Bill made a difference then why have the firearm rates NOT SIGNIFICANTLY increased since the 2004 expiration of the Brady Bill? And considering this, why are the rates still FAR lower than they were in the early '90s?

The only statistical FACT here is that you're DELUSIONAL. :roll:


SON. OF. WHO. GIVES. A. SHIT. WHAT. YOU. THINK.


If you don't give a shit what I think, then why are you responding to my posts?

tweedle-dumb wrote:
Bottom line, the rates decreased by around 60% from the time that the Brady Bill was enacted through the time it was allowed to expire, and they have increased since.


RETURN. OF. THE. SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

If you think the Brady Bill made a difference then why have the firearm rates NOT SIGNIFICANTLY increased since the 2004 expiration of the Brady Bill? And considering this, why are the rates still FAR lower than they were in the early '90s?

tweedle-dumb wrote:
Your question is a moot point. You revise your response with every new post, trying to fit a square peg into a round hole with your pointy little head.


No, my question is VERY important. Because it shows there's NO proof what you're stating is 100% correct.

tweedle-dumb wrote:
If you want reasons why the rate has NOT gone up back by 60% higher - overall nationally, you take into account a number of obvious variables...
- population growth rates per geographic locations


ROTF! :mrgreen: Population rates almost ALWAYS increase!

tweedle-dumb wrote:
- better tracking with he internet


ROTF! :mrgreen: You do know the internet has been around for more than 20 years, right?!

tweedle-dumb wrote:
- since 9/11 happened, security and law enforcment has drastically improved and become more efficient


So what? There's still about 300 million gun owners in the US.

tweedle-dumb wrote:
- gun ownership versus crime rates per household, overall, didn't technically spike "significantly", until recently...you're going to hate the stats for this year and last year when I post them...I guarantee it.
- the states with the highest gun ownerships and weakest laws did see "significant" increases over the states that have lower gun ownership rates (per 100K populance) and stricter laws * my next list will be state by state statistics -

You keep bringing up this notion of delusion, but I'm not the one readjusting my argument with each post. I'll gladly do a state by state by population growth rate by gun ownership rate by law enforcement analysis just for you. I guarantee you're not going to like the results. Thats actually going to be my next list after I complete the assault weapons crimes and shool shootings lists. Consider that a spoiler alert.


Post away. There's always significant BS embedded within your claims and skewed logic...and I'm sure your next posts will contain the same characteristics. And btw, I'm not "readjusting my argument with each post." YOU are the one perpetually defying objectivity. :roll:

tweedle-dumb wrote:
Bottom line again, the rates decreased by around 60% between the time the Brady Bill was enacted, and have increased since it expired. Period. This years stats already have a sharp increase rate, and I'll be putting those statistics up with my next list....stay tuned...


RETURN. OF. THE. SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

If you think the Brady Bill made a difference then why have the firearm rates NOT SIGNIFICANTLY increased since the 2004 expiration of the Brady Bill? And considering this, why are the rates still FAR lower than they were in the early '90s?

The only statistical FACT here is that you're DELUSIONAL. :roll:

tweedle-dumb wrote:
Can you post a link to your source for the decrease in gun crime prior to the Brady Bill, if you indeed actually do have one that isn't sourced from a partisan pro-gun advocacy group?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violen ... ted_States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ushom ... weapon.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Homoffendersbyage.svg

While the firearm homicide rate did start increasing again in the late '80s-early '90s, primarily due to the severe increase in gang activity (specifically, the 18-24 demographic), it was already significantly decreasing before that in the early '80s...

Caputh wrote:
Disco Boy wrote:

Little_Sally wrote:
You want to take my what ?
Image


Is that actually you?!

If so, pm me... :wink:


So you would find being shot by a hotpanted teenager more pleasurable than being shot by a slobbering, unshaven psychopath? I can't see the difference myself - the end result is the same...


How do you know that's a teenager?

And yes, if I was going to get shot, I'd LOVE to get shot by someone like that and not by who you described in the last part of your first sentence... :mrgreen:


Little_Sally wrote:
Gun Control is Why Chicago Murder Rates Are Skyrocketing
Gun control policies don’t work because they disarm citizens while keeping criminals in possession of guns. Chicago’s strict policies have effectively given lawbreakers a monopoly on weapons in many parts of the city that the Chicago Police Department cannot or will not police effectively.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/22622/gun-control-is-why-chicago-murder-rates-are-skyrocketing


BINGO!

_________________
:53 - :57...

"...I'm absolutely a Libertarian on MANY issues..." ~ Frank Zappa, Rochester, NY, March 11, 1988


Last edited by Disco Boy on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:45 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:27 pm
Posts: 5737
Location: echoing through the canyons of your mind
SPACEBROTHER wrote:
Just in case you missed it...

Image

You have better odds getting murdered from a gun wacko in Montana than you do in Chicago.


The numbers don't lie.


As far as female orgasms...

Not to brag, but I'll have your od lady creaming her jeans by just looking at her... :wink: :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:11 pm
Posts: 3562
Location: Vancouver, BC
tweedle-dumb wrote:
The numbers don't lie.


You're certainly correct there. Congrats! How does it feel to actually and finally be RIGHT about something?!

But you still need to correctly answer this:

RETURN. OF. THE. RETURN. OF. THE. SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

If you think the Brady Bill made a difference then why have the firearm rates NOT SIGNIFICANTLY increased since the 2004 expiration of the Brady Bill? And considering this, why are the rates still FAR lower than they were in the early '90s?

_________________
:53 - :57...

"...I'm absolutely a Libertarian on MANY issues..." ~ Frank Zappa, Rochester, NY, March 11, 1988


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:27 pm
Posts: 5737
Location: echoing through the canyons of your mind
They've since increased, instead of decreasing.

Do you need any excuse as to whether why or why not? :? :roll:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:25 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:37 pm
Posts: 338
Gun Control is Why Chicago Murder Rates Are Skyrocketing
Gun control policies don’t work because they disarm citizens while keeping criminals in possession of guns. Chicago’s strict policies have effectively given lawbreakers a monopoly on weapons in many parts of the city that the Chicago Police Department cannot or will not police effectively.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/22622 ... yrocketing
Image

_________________
Banned
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/banned


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:00 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:19 am
Posts: 4805
Location: in deepest, darkest Germany
Disco Boy wrote:

How do you know that's a teenager?

And yes, if I was going to get shot, I'd LOVE to get shot by someone like that and not by who you described in the last part of your first sentence... :mrgreen:




1. An educated guess

2. Your position seems rather similar to this man's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24DWK42u5gE
(Dig the Polish subtitles).
I'm afraid it's all just death to me.

_________________
"I have learned from my mistakes, and I am sure I can repeat them exactly."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:06 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:37 pm
Posts: 338
Caputh wrote:
Disco Boy wrote:

Image
How do you know that's a teenager?

And yes, if I was going to get shot, I'd LOVE to get shot by someone like that and not by who you described in the last part of your first sentence... :mrgreen:



Dear Caputh you need the photo to help make your point!

1. An educated guess

2. Your position seems rather similar to this man's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24DWK42u5gE
(Dig the Polish subtitles).
I'm afraid it's all just death to me.

_________________
Banned
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/banned


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Troll control?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:09 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:29 pm
Posts: 174
Looks like Little Sally wants a penis.

Because 'she' doesn't have one?

...

btw, that full frontal pic above, is an actress - a Hollywood manufacture. She played a mass murderer opposite Woody Harrelson in Natural Born Killers where that still was stolen from. An image intended to shock, but without any meaning ascribed to it, or words to explain it, the audience of Little Sally is encouraged to project one's own desires. Typical. For most who idolize guns and violence, turning women into objects - in their minds - is never far from the surface. That actress has said again and again she's not a fan of violence, war or guns. And doesn't her character die in The Way of The Gun ? Just sayin'.

Maybe if Little Sally could gain a penis, she might not be such a troll.

_________________
"... gonna jump outta the subcommittee and get ya!"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Troll control?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:39 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:58 pm
Posts: 13142
Location: Home of The Mondavi Center.
simplex II wrote:
Looks like Little Sally wants a penis.

Because 'she' doesn't have one?

...

btw, that full frontal pic above, is an actress - a Hollywood manufacture. She played a mass murderer opposite Woody Harrelson in Natural Born Killers where that still was stolen from. An image intended to shock, but without any meaning ascribed to it, or words to explain it, the audience of Little Sally is encouraged to project one's own desires. Typical. For most who idolize guns and violence, turning women into objects - in their minds - is never far from the surface. That actress has said again and again she's not a fan of violence, war or guns. And doesn't her character die in The Way of The Gun ? Just sayin'.

Maybe if Little Sally could gain a penis, she might not be such a troll.

Love your post man! :wink: Right on the mark! 8)

_________________
I'm getting larger as I walk away.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 1289 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 ... 52  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group