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Gun Control is Why Chicago Murder Rates Are Skyrocketing
Gun control policies don’t work because they disarm citizens while keeping criminals in possession of guns. Chicago’s strict policies have effectively given lawbreakers a monopoly on weapons in many parts of the city that the Chicago Police Department cannot or will not police effectively.
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btw, that full frontal pic above, is an actress - a Hollywood manufacture. She played a mass murderer opposite Woody Harrelson in Natural Born Killers where that still was stolen from.



Is/was she a teenager? :?

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btw, that full frontal pic above, is an actress - a Hollywood manufacture. She played a mass murderer opposite Woody Harrelson in Natural Born Killers where that still was stolen from.



Is/was she a teenager? :?

Shows what old age does to a guy.
That girl doesn't look like Juliette Lewis (as Mallory Knox) to me, and, in the movie, I don't recall the deadly duo spending any time at a legitimate indoor shooting range.

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Gun control in the US that's an oxymoron isn't it?


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Gun control in the US that's an oxymoron isn't it?

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It appears the the pdf links to my lists have gone missing, but no need to fret. There are plenty of other sources to find the same information regarding school shootings and assault weapons related crimes...

MAJOR SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN THE UNITED STATES - 2009

On January 9, 2009 in Chicago, Illinois. Five male teenagers leaving a basketball game held on the campus of Dunbar Vocational Career Academy, in the South Side area of Chicago, Illinois, received gunshot wounds after shots were fired from a passing vehicle. All five victims were sent to Chicago area hospitals, three of whom were treated for serious injuries. Police arrested 18-year-old Georgio Dukes a week after the shooting on five counts of aggravated battery with a firearm. Police determined that the attack was gang-related.

On January 15, 2009 in San Francisco, California. A 14-year-old female student was struck eight times with a pair of scissors in a classroom at Marina Middle School, in San Francisco, California, by another 14-year-old female classmate. The victim suffered wounds to the head, arms, chest, and back and was treated at a local hospital.The attacker was arraigned on charges of attempted murder and assault.

On January 21, 2009, in Blacksburg, Virginia, Yang Xin, a 22-year-old graduate student from Beijing, China, was decapitated with a kitchen knife by fellow student Zhu Haiyang, in a cafe on the campus of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (Virginia Tech). It is the second murder to have occurred on campus since

April 2007, in which a 23-year-old student killed 32 people before committing suicide.
On February 7, 2009, in Houston, Texas, Jeremy Lee Pierce, a 32-year-old student at University of Houston, fatally shot Joe Tall, a 47-year-old homeless man, on the campus bus stop. Pierce has been charged with murder.

On March 6, 2009 in Fayetteville, North Carolina. A 15-year-old male was struck in the foot with a bullet at a parking lot of Westover High School, in Fayetteville, North Carolina. The shooting occurred when 19-year-old Terrance Donnell Johnson, Jr. fired several shots from a handgun at his opponents during a fashion show held at the school.

On March 11, 2009 in Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania. An eighth grade student who attended St. Andrew School in Drexel Hill was arrested after a fellow pupil he attempted to recruit for an attack tipped off authorities. The suspect was then pulled from class and later arrested. Shortly after, two airsoft pistols were found in his backpack, one of them looking very much like a real gun. The plan of the 13-year-old student was to force the school in lock down and shoot anybody who tried to escape. He is charged with terroristic threats and reckless endangerment and is currently held in juvenille detention. He is also charged with burglary for stealing $370 from another school in Drexel Hill on the previous weekend. It is noted that the suspect has a history of mental illness.

On April 2, 2009, in Radford, Virginia, Phillip Beale and another unidentified individual murdered a drug dealer near the campus of Radford University after getting into an argument with him. Radford police arrested Beale and are seeking to identify his accomplice.

On April 10, 2009, in Dearborn, Michigan, 28-year-old Anthony Powell fatally shot his classmate, 20-year-old Asia McGowan, before committing suicide on the campus of Henry Ford Community College.

On April 26, 2009, in Hampton, Virginia, Odane Maye, an 18-year-old former student, entered Hampton University, in eastern Virginia, while armed with three handguns. Maye stalked a pizza delivery man, who he then shot while entering Harkness Hall dormitory. Maye then entered the dormitory and shot its' manager, and then shot himself in an unsuccessful suicide attempt;both victims survived. Maye was arrested three days later after being hospitalized and was arraigned the next day on seven counts—aggravated malicious wounding and various firearms offenses.

On April 28, 2009, in Richmond, Virginia, two students at Virginia Union University were stabbed. Police say the suspect, whose name has not been released, is not a VUU student.

On May 6, 2009, in Middletown, Connecticut, Stephen P. Morgan allegedly used a CZ-USA 9 mm semi-automatic pistol to shoot and kill 21-year-old Wesleyan University student Johanna Justin-Jinich at the off-campus bookstore where she was working. Morgan purportedly previously had been stalking Johanna Justin-Jinich and leaving her harassing phone calls and e-mail messages (prior to her matriculation at Wesleyan when they were both attending classes at New York University). After arresting Morgan, police purportedly found a journal in Morgan's car that supposedly stated Morgan's plans might have been allegedly to rape and kill Johanna Justin-Jinich and then allegedly go on a killing spree at Wesleyan University.

On May 18, 2009 in Larose, Louisiana, Justin Doucet, a 15-year-old eighth grade student, fired one shot from a .25-caliber semi-automatic pistol above a teacher's head inside her classroom at Larose-Cut Off Middle School, in Larose, Louisiana, and then entered a restroom next door and shot himself through the chin. Doucet was lifted by air to Terrebonne General Medical Center where he died five days later from head wounds.

On May 18, 2009, in Cambridge, Massachusetts, Justin Cosby, 21, was shot and killed inside a dormitory at Harvard University, in Cambridge, Massachusetts, by three men looking to rob him of money and drugs. Police arrested 20-year-old Jabrai Jordan Copney after the shooting. It was not clear which of the three assailants actually shot Cosby.

On June 15, 2009 in San Francisco, California. Three people, including two students, were injured after several shots were fired into a crowd as a summer school class was just released at International Studies Academy High School, in San Francisco, California. The shooting occurred a block away from the campus. Police arrested an 18-year-old as an accessory in the shooting.

On June 24, 2009 in Parkersburg, Iowa, Mark Becker entered the weight room of Aplington-Parkersburg High School, in Parkersburg, Iowa, and shot football coach Ed Thomas inside. Thomas was airlifted to Covenant Medical Center in Waterloo, Iowa, where he later died of his wounds. Becker was arrested and charged with first-degree murder.

On August 24, 2009 in San Mateo, California. Two pipe bombs went off in a hallway of Hillsdale High School, in San Mateo, California, during the beginning of first period classes. Nobody was injured from the explosions. Alex Youshock, a 17-year-old former student of the school, was held by staff members until police arrived and was found with eight other pipe bombs, a two-foot-long sword, and a chainsaw concealed in a guitar case. Youshock was subsequently arrested and charged as an adult with eight felonies.

On September 2, 2009, in San Bruno, California, a student was shot in the abdomen and buttocks after an argument escalated between two groups of young males in the parking lot of Skyline College, in San Bruno, a suburb of San Francisco, California. The victim was transported to San Francisco General Hospital and the campus was subsequently placed on lockdown. Police arrested three suspects on September 3.

On September 8, 2009, in New Haven, Connecticut, 24-year-old doctoral student Annie Le was strangled to death inside a research building on the campus of Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut. On September 17, police arrested lab technician Raymond Clark and charged him with murder.

On September 11, 2009 in Owosso, Michigan, James Pouillon, 63, was killed in a drive-by shooting in front of Owosso High School, in Michigan, where he was protesting against abortion. Several students witnessed the attack but none were injured. An hour later the body of business owner Mike Fuoss was found shot to death inside his office at Fuoss Gravel. Police arrested Harlan James Drake after the shootings and charged him with two counts of first-degree murder.

On September 15, 2009 in Coral Gables, Florida. Juan Carlos Rivera, a 17-year-old student of Coral Gables Senior High School, located in the Coral Gables suburb of Miami, Florida, was stabbed in the chest by another student and died. The stabbing happened during a fight between the two students, reportedly over a girl. 17-year-old student Andy Rodriguez was arrested for the crime.

On September 16, 2009 in Antioch, California. An 16-year-old student of Deer Valley High School, in Antioch, California, was shot in the arm and torso after an argument between two groups of young men. The shots were fired from a vehicle, which then drove off. The victim was lifted by air to John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek and underwent surgery. Yousuf Mohammad Aziz, a 19-year-old graduate of Deer Valley, was arrested on September 18 in connection with the shooting.

On September 23, 2009 in Tyler, Texas, 50-year-old Todd Henry, a special education teacher at John Tyler High School, was fatally stabbed by a student inside a classroom at the school. Henry later died of his injuries at a local hospital. The attacker was taken into custody.

On October 8, 2009, in Los Angeles, California. A 20-year-old female student of a chemistry laboratory at the University of California, Los Angeles was stabbed multiple times, including having her throat slashed, during class. A teaching assistant stopped the bleeding and called for help. The victim was transported to the hospital and needed surgery but was expected to recover. Police arrested Damon Thompson after the attack.

On October 18, 2009, in Storrs, Connecticut, Jasper Howard, a 20-year-old cornerback for the UConn Huskies, was stabbed to death on the campus of the University of Connecticut, outside the Student Union Center where an on-campus dance was held to celebrate the Huskies’ homecoming victory over the Louisville Cardinals. On October 21, police arrested John William Lomax III, 21, and charged him with murder. Three other men were also arrested in connection with the murder.

On October 21, 2009 in Monroe, New York. A 15-year-old boy from Monroe was already on juvenile probation when he broke down crying, police said Tuesday night, as he admitted he stockpiled bottles of gasoline, makeshift fuses, a torch, a 2-foot (0.61 m) machete and three tanks of propane in a plot to attack former fellow students at Monroe-Woodbury High School.

On October 16, 2009 in Carolina Forest, South Carolina, Trevor Varinecz, a junior at Carolina Forest High School, attacked and stabbed police officer Marcus Rhodes, the School Resource Officer, inside his office. Rhodes then shot Varinecz in self defense. Varinecz later died in hospital.

On October 30, 2009 in Long Beach, 16-year-old Melody Ross, a junior at Wilson Classical High School, was fatally shot leaving a homecoming game at the school. Two males, aged 18 and 20, were also injured in the shooting. Tom Vinson and Daivion Davis were later arrested and charged with murder and two counts of attempted murder.

On December 4, 2009, in Vestal, New York, Richard T. Antoun, 77, a professor of anthropology and specialist in Islamic and Middle Eastern studies, is stabbed to death inside his office at Binghamton University. Police arrested 46-year-old graduate student Abdulsalam S. al-Zahrani after the stabbing and charged him with second-degree murder.




The new source for one of my lists is actually more detailed and goes back much further in the timeline... http://www.examiner.com/article/school- ... rs-the-u-s


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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control?
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Gun control in the US that's an oxymoron isn't it?

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Wow! I never knew Obama was Japanese as well!

Oh ya, he's from the land of the rising gun. :roll: Little Sally financed his freedom farm doing the same thing. :P

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let all head on down to the shooting range...last one there is a progressive !
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MAJOR SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN THE UNITED STATES - 2007

On January 3, 2007 in Tacoma, Washington, 18-year-old Douglas S. Chanthabouly shot 17-year-old Samnang Kok to death in one of the school's hallways due to a personal disagreement.

On March 7, 2007 in Midland, Michigan, 17-year old David Turner shot and critically wounded 17-year old Jessica Forsyth four times outside Herbert Henry Dow High School before killing himself in the parking lot.

On April 2, 2007, in Seattle, Washington, Jonathan Rowan, entered Gould Hall on the University of Washington's Seattle Campus and headed to the fourth floor where he entered the office of his ex-girlfriend Rebecca Griego, 26, a program coordinator for the College of Architecture and Urban Planning. Rowan fired two shots, the first taking Griego's life and the second taking his own life.

On April 10, 2007 in Gresham, Oregon. High school freshman Chad Escobedo shoots the windows out of two classrooms from outside Springwater Trail High School injuring ten students with shrapnel and broken glass, two of which required stitches. His motive was to shoot at a class in which he was enrolled, unhappy that the instructor had called his parents; the classrooms he hit, however, were not his intended target.

On April 16, 2007, in Blacksburg, Virginia. Thirty-two people (27 students and five faculty members) were killed by Seung-Hui Cho, a 23-year-old senior English major, on the campus of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (Virginia Tech) in two separate locations, about two hours apart: West Ambler Johnston Hall dormitory, where two were shot dead, and Norris Hall, where the remaining 30 were shot in an attack lasting nine minutes. Cho committed suicide in a classroom after law enforcement officers breached the main entrance doors of Norris Hall, which Cho had chained shut. Police reported that 25 others were injured, some in the Norris Hall shooting, while others were hurt when they jumped from second-story windows to escape. The attack is the deadliest peacetime shooting incident by a single gunman in United States history, on or off a school campus.

On April 18, 2007 in Huntersville, North Carolina. A 16-year-old threatened two students in the parking lot at North Mecklenberg High School with a gun, and shortly afterwards, had shot himself at a local gas station when confronted by police.Four Charlotte-Mecklenberg schools went on lockdown.

August 4, 2007 Newark, New Jersey. Known as the Newark Schoolyard Killings, three Delaware State University students were forced to kneel against an elementary school wall and were shot execution-style by 28-year old Jose Carranza and two 15-year old juveniles. A fourth student was found with gunshot wounds to her head.

On September 21, 2007, in Dover, Delaware, an 18-year old Delaware State University student shot two 17-year old female students; one shooting victim, 17-year old Shalita Middleton, died from injuries sustained in the shootings 32 days later while in the hospital.

On September 28, 2007 in Oroville, California, 17-year-old student Greg Wright held twenty-seven students and a teacher hostage in a classroom at Las Plumas High School, in Oroville, California, for about two hours before surrendering to law enforcement;all but three of the hostages were released an hour within. Several shots were fired towards the air from Wright's weapon, a .22-caliber semi-automatic handgun, during the crisis. Wright was tried and convicted in adult court on charges of false imprisonment and firearms offenses and was sentenced to 22 years in prison in January 2008.

On September 30, 2007 in Memphis, Tennessee. A University of Memphis football player, 21-year-old Taylor Bradford, was fatally shot on campus in what was believed to be a targeted attack. Bradford was shot near his campus apartment. He then got into his car and drove a short distance before crashing into a tree where police found him dead from the gunshot wound. Bradford was rumored to have won more than $3,000 at a nearby casino the night before, which Four suspects were charged, with Jefferson being credited as the primary conspirator.

On October 10, 2007 in Cleveland, Ohio,14-year-old student Asa Coon, reportedly upset about a school suspension, went on a shooting spree at SuccessTech Academy, an alternative high school in Cleveland, Ohio, wounding two students and two teachers. He then fatally shot himself in a classroom.

On October 11, 2007 in Plymouth Meeting, Pennsylvania, 14-year-old Dillon Cossey was arrested at his home in Plymouth Meeting after a friend told police about his plan to carry out a Columbine style attack on Plymouth Whitemarsh High School. After a police-conducted search of the Cossey residence, officers found a 9 mm Hi-Point Carbine(which he named "Reb" in honor of Eric Harris), over 30 airsoft guns, a dozen knives and swords, 7 homemade explosives(4 which were live), a copy of The Anarchist Cookbook, and several movies about the Columbine High School Massacre, all which were in the boy's bedroom. A .22 rifle and a .22 pistol, which were lent to another acquaintance for safe-keeping, were also recovered by authorities. However, no ammunition turned up in the search, so investigators have concluded that the threat of an attack was not imminent. Even on Cossey's MySpace page, he discussed his admiration for the bank robbers of the North Hollywood shootout as well as for Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, the Columbine gunmen. In his trial, Cossey confessed that he was going to carry out his shooting to kill the people who had relentlessly bullied him in elementary and middle school. Bullying led his parents to pull him out of public school at the end of his 7th grade year and home-school him. It was later found that he also had contact with Pekka-Eric Auvinen, the perpetrator of the Jokela school shooting, though Cossey apparently had no knowledge of Auvinen's plans. Cossey is currently serving time in juvenile detention and could possibly stay until the age of 21. His mother, Michelle Cossey, faced charges for purchasing the weapons and other charges regarding the welfare of her son.

On November 28, 2007 in LaGrange, New York. State police arrested two 16-year-old Poughquag students - Patrick Quigley and Joseph Saia – and a 15-year-old student after investigating a threat posted on a MySpace page. The three teens were charged with fourth-degree conspiracy, a felony. The Web page described events to take place at Arlington High School on April 20, 2010, the 11th anniversary of the attack on Columbine High School, police said.

On December 9, 2007, in Arvada, Colorado, Matthew J. Murray attacked the Youth With A Mission missionary training school in Arvada, Colorado, killing two and wounding two others. He then drove to the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado where an additional two people were killed and three people were wounded before Murray was shot by a church security guard. Murray then committed suicide. Murray had previously attended the same YWAM Missionary Center where he began his shooting spree. Murray was expelled from the school due to "strange behavior", which included playing frightening rock music and claiming to hear voices.

On December 21, 2007 in Union City, California, Vernon Matthew Eddins, a 14-year-old student of James Logan High School, was shot dead at the doorstep of Barnard-White Middle School, in Union City, California. Police issued that the shooting was prompted by an argument escalating between Latino and African-American groups of teenagers. No suspects were ever sought.


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MAJOR SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN THE UNITED STATES - 2008

... 2009




... nor are there shortages of lists, unfortunately.


it appears almost half the content in these major school shootings lists consist of stabbings, strangulations, decapitations, blow torch attacks, hostage taking or other no-shots-fired incidents

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Seven instances from the 2009 and one from 2008 of the instances listed above were non gun related. I had to pull a list from a new source, as the original pdf list was using, which was entirely gun related suddenly disappeared within the last day. I just got lazy and included them in the cut and paste job. If and when I find that original pdf source, I'll continue from where I left off. 8 out of 40 isn't exactly half (actually 1/5th), but there are still too many of these happening because of a lack of laws, restrictions and enforcements.


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I started shooting at 5 years old, 22 plinking in the back yard with dad.

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I edited my 2008 list above with a 2007 list that I mean't to post here. Oh well, I'll just repost the one from 2008...

MAJOR SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN THE UNITED STATES - 2008


February 7, 2008 Portsmouth, Ohio, William Michael Layne, the estranged husband of a teacher at Notre Dame Elementary School, stabbed a bystander on the street prior to entering the school. He then walked into his wife's fifth grade classroom where he shot and stabbed her. Layne later shot and killed himself after a stand-off with police at his home.

On February 8, 2008, in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Latina Williams, a 23-year-old nursing student, opened fire of six rounds with a .357-caliber revolver in a second-floor classroom at Louisiana Technical College, in Baton Rouge, before committing suicide. The two victims were classmates Karsheika Graves and Taneshia Butler, who were both fatally shot.

On February 12, 2008 in Oxnard, California, 15-year-old Lawrence Fobes King was shot in the head twice by 14-year-old classmate Brandon McInerney in the E.O. Green Junior High School computer lab in Oxnard, California. King was transported to St. John's Regional Medical Center in Oxnard under serious condition. Examiners declared King brain dead the following day. It was suspected that the motivation of the shooting was McInerney suspecting King was gay, in which a hate crime charge was filed.

On February 14, 2008, in DeKalb, Illinois, 27-year-old former student Steven Kazmierczak opened fire with a shotgun and three semi-automatic handguns at Cole Hall on the campus of Northern Illinois University, in DeKalb, killing five students and wounding 20 other students and the class instructor. 17 of the injuries were determined to be gunshot-related, while the others were injured escaping the scene. Kazmierczak then fatally shot himself.

On March 6, 2008 in Mobile, Alabama, Jajuan Holmes, an 18-year-old student on suspension, walked into the gym area at Davidson High School and shot himself in front of 150 students. The school was put on lockdown for the day.

On June 4, 2008 in Mishawaka, Indiana. A 16-year old boy was arrested after notebook retrieved from his locker at Penn High School stated "I wanna break the current shooting record. I wanna get instant recognition." He and a 33 year old possible accomplice, Lee Billi, were charged with conspiracy. Trials Pending.

On August 21, 2008 in Knoxville, Tennessee, 15-year-old Ryan McDonald was shot to death by 15-year-old fellow student Jamar Siler in the cafeteria of Central High School, in Knoxville, Tennessee.

On October 31, 2008 in Stockton Springs, Maine. Eleven fifth-grade students were taken hostage in a classroom at Stockton Springs Elementary School, in Stockton Springs, Maine. The hostage situation ended within 30 minutes when the gunman surrendered to a state trooper. The hostage taker, 55-year-old Randall Hofland, was wanted by authorities for pointing a handgun at an officer during a traffic stop and then fleeing.

On October 27, 2008, in Conway, Arkansas. A shooting took place on the campus of University of Central Arkansas, in Conway, outside the Arkansas Hall dormitory. Two students—Ryan Henderson, 18, and Chavares Block, 19—were both fatally shot. A third person, a 19-year-old campus visitor, was shot and wounded in the leg.

On November 12, 2008 in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 15-year-old student Amanda Collette was shot to death by her 15-year-old classmate, Teah Wimberly, in a hallway of Dillard High School, in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. The shooter was arraigned on the charge of first-degree murder.

On December 4, 2008 in Pottstown, Pennsylvania, 15-year-old Richard Yanis was arrested for plotting a school shooting at Pottstown High School after his father reported to police three missing handguns. An investigation revealed that Yanis had stolen the guns from his father and put them into a duffelbag, which he handed to a friend with the words to "hold onto it". After checking the bag Yanis' friend told his mother of the weapons, who then forced him to get rid of them by throwing them into a river. After his arrest Yanis admitted that he had planned to shoot people at his school he didn't like, before committing suicide.


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Speaking of a 5 year old with a .22 caliber firearm...

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A 5-year-old Kentucky boy who received a .22-caliber rifle as a gift accidentally shot and killed his 2-year-old sister on Tuesday, according to state police.

The toddler was shot at just after 1 p.m. local time on Lawson’s Bottom Road in Cumberland County, police said. The girl was taken to Cumberland County Hospital and later pronounced dead.

The mother of the two children was at home at the time of the shooting, Cumberland County Coroner Gary White told the local newspaper, the Lexington Herald-Leader. He said that the family did not realize that there was a shell inside the gun. The firearm was kept in a corner, he said.

“It’s a Crickett,” Cumberland County Coroner Gary White told the paper. “It’s a little rifle for a kid.”...



A sad, tragic and completely avoidable circumstance. How stupid and irresposible does one have to be to give a 5 year old a gun as a gift?


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I am much more worried about a nut case on a forum posting like a mad man, ready to explode on any one that doesn't agree with his or her opinion of owning a gun, than a 5 year old shoo ting targets with a parent.

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MAJOR SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN THE UNITED STATES - 2006 - 2007 School year


August 14, 2006: Moreno Valley, CA

A 25-year-old security guard was found shot to death around 6:15pm at an elementary school which he had been hired to guard from vandals and taggers. No students were at the school as the incident occurred during summer break.



August 17, 2006: Austin, TX

A 21-year-old male was shot and killed in middle school parking lot in what police believed to be a gang-related dispute. The incident occurred during evening hours as a group of youth were preparing for a Quinceañera, a 15th birthday party celebration. A 20-year-old and a 17-year-old were subsequently arrested.



August 25, 2006: Essex, VT

A 27-year-old male shot and killed a 56-year-old second-grade teacher in her elementary school classroom. The male was looking for his ex-girlfriend, who also is a teacher at the school, who had reportedly broken up with her the night before the incident. A 52-year-old female first-grade teacher was also shot through a window. The suspect also had reportedly shot and killed his ex-girlfriend's mother, age 57. The 39 staff in the building reportedly moved to lock down the school.



September 13, 2006: Van Nuys, CA

A 16-year-old male high school student was shot and killed across the street from his high school around 3:40pm, a half hour after classes let out, in what police believed is a gang-related shooting.



September 27, 2006: Bailey, CO

A 53-year-old male gunman took six female high school students hostage, molesting them all and using them as shields throughout the afternoon. After releasing some hostages, the male shot at SWAT officers as they entered the classroom, and then shot a 16-year-old female hostage who later died from her wounds. The suspect shot himself with one round to commit suicide as SWAT officers who were entering the room also shot him three times..



September 29, 2006: Cazenovia, WI

A 15-year-old male student shot the principal of his Pre-K through 12 school after walking into the school with a shotgun and a handgun taken from his family's gun cabinet, according to reports. The male reportedly was confronted by the school's custodian, teachers, and students who tried to wrestle the gun away from him. The custodian said the male was a special education student who said he was there to kill someone. When confronted by the school's 49-year-old principal, the teen shot the principal in the head, chest, and leg. After being shot, the principal wrestled the male to the ground and swept the gun away. The principal died at the hospital several hours later. The teen reportedly had been harassed by other students and believed that teachers and the principal were not doing anything about it. The teen was said to have told another student that the principal "would not make it through homecoming." The teen was in police custody and will be charged as an adult.



October 2, 2006: Nickel Mines, PA

A 32-year-old male shot 10 girls, aged 6 to 13, killing five of them and then committing suicide in a one-classroom rural Amish school.



October 17, 2006: Katy, TX

A 16-year-old male high school sophomore committed suicide by shooting himself with a handgun in the school's cafeteria courtyard.



October 19, 2006: Orlando, FL

A 15-year-old male high school student was stabbed with a 3 to 3 and 1/2 inch knife with a serrated edge by another 17-year-old male student at the school, according to reports. The incident happened on the east side of the school near the sidewalk in the area of the school buses, reports said. The two males fought and the victim was stabbed during the fight, after which he was transported to the hospital where he subsequently died. Students reported the two males may have had a conflict over a girl.



October 31, 2006: Knoxville, TN

A 39-year-old male school security officer was shot and killed around 10:20pm in his high school's parking lot while assigned to patrol the school to prevent Halloween vandalism. A 39-year-old suspect was arrested after a police pursuit of the suspect who stole the victim's car. The suspect claimed he was a homeless man from Virginia, but police reported he was from Galax and may have pending charges for another murder. School officials reported that the officer was a very close member of the school "family" and connected well with students at the high school, who were torn by his loss. Grief counselors were to be on hand the next day at the school.



November 1, 2007: Fresno, CA

A 13-year-old male middle school student died as a result of an after-school fight in a parking lot near the school. The incident reportedly stemmed from an ongoing conflict with a 14-year-old male student who was fighting with him. The victim was knocked to the ground and then hit afterwards, and the assailant left. The 13-year-old later died from the injuries.



November 29, 2006: Houston, TX

A 16-year-old male high school student was shot to death behind the school while walking to school in the morning. Reports indicated the incident was believed to be gang-related.



December 12, 2006: Springfield Township, PA

A 16-year-old male high school shot and killed himself with an AK-47 in the hallway of his high school. The student, reportedly despondent over his grades, had the gun concealed in a camouflage duffle bag and fired one round in the ceiling to warn other students to get out of the way before committing suicide.



January 3, 2007: Tacoma, WA

An 18-year-old male high school student was arrested for shooting and killing a 17-year-old male student at their school. The suspect allegedly shot the victim in the face and then stood over him, firing twice more.



January 19, 2007: Sudbury, MA

A 15-year-old male high school student was stabbed to death by a 16-year-old male student in the hallway of their high school. The two reportedly got into a fight in a restroom which spilled out in the hallway, at which time the suspect stabbed the victim twice with a long knife, once in the abdomen and once in the heart.



January 26, 2007: Los Angeles, CA

An 18-year-old male was shot in the upper body three times and died while playing basketball in a middle school gym around 5:50pm. Police were seeking three suspects who fled after the shooting. The identity of the victim and his association with the school was not immediately identified. Dozens of people were present but not injured, according to reports.



February 8, 2007: Prineville, OR

An 18-year-old male high school student committed suicide with a gunshot wound to the head in the high school's parking lot. He was found by a student around 2:30pm.



February 17, 2007: Flint, MI

A 26-year-old male was shot in the head in a parking lot of an elementary school where he was visiting for an adult basketball league that rents the gym. The male later died. Police arrested three people.



February 26, 2007: St. Louis, MO

A 15-year-old male high school student was killed and a 16-year-old male student shot outside the home of an 18-year-old student in the afternoon following an altercation that began earlier in the day at their high school. A crowd gathered outside the home to watch a fight and the 18-year-old stood in the door with a baseball bat, according to reports. After rocks and rolled newspapers were thrown at the house, the 18-year-old reappeared with a rifle and his 51-year-old mother with a handgun, and both opened fire. The 15-year-old was killed and the 16-year-old was injured. Counselors and additional security measures were put in place at the school for the following days.



March 7, 2007: Greenville, TX

A 16-year-old male high school student fatally shot himself while in the band hallway area of the school around 7:15am. No other students were injured. More than 100 parents rushed to the school to remove their students.



March 7, 2007: Midland, MI

A 17-year-old male non-student shot a 17-year-old female student four times and then turned the gun on himself, committing suicide in her high school's parking lot The female was reportedly an ex-girlfriend of the male. Reports indicate the male drove to the school to talk with the female but was turned away by school officials, after which he called her out to the parking lot to talk with him. He pulled a gun and shot her four times, which was witnessed by the girl's mother who was in her car and drove between them. The female was taken to the hospital and reported to be in serious, but stable, condition.



March 23, 2007: Los Angeles, CA

A 17-year-old male high school student was stabbed to death during a fight outside the school's gym with three other males around 3:00pm. The suspects were reportedly 16 to 17 years old.



April 18, 2007: Huntersville, NC

A 16-year-old male high school student made threatened two high school students with a gun in their school's parking lot and then turned the gun on himself, committing suicide, when police subsequently approached him in a nearby gas station. Police alerted four schools in the area, which went into lockdown. Counselors were made available at the school upon students' return.



May 2, 2007: Newark, DE

A 31-year-old female bus driver was found stabbed to death on her school bus which was pulled over to the side of the road shortly after she left the school bus depot to start picking up middle school students. A boyfriend was reportedly in custody being interviewed.



May 5, 2007: El Maton, TX

A 15-year-old female high school student committed suicide by a .38-caliber gunshot to the head in a school restroom. Her body was found by another student from her band class who checked the restroom after the student left and did not return.



June 8, 2007: Sacramento, CA

A 16-year-old male student from a military-style charter school academy was shot while he and his 18-year-old brother were driving to school. The male was subsequently pulled from life support and died. The victim was set to graduate the day of the incident and to receive an honors award, according to reports. A 22-year-old male was arrested in connection with the shooting, which police believe was gang-related.


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After looking at some of the ' shootings ' posted , it appears that the dysfunction is with the person with the object , and not the object.

So , once again , get rid of the object or the person with the crazed behavior ?

I really never witnessed real brainwashing until I saw the multiple insane posts from a certain poster.

Hmm , get rid of the thread or the poster ?

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Gun Control is Why Chicago Murder Rates Are Skyrocketing
Gun control policies don’t work because they disarm citizens while keeping criminals in possession of guns. Chicago’s strict policies have effectively given lawbreakers a monopoly on weapons in many parts of the city that the Chicago Police Department cannot or will not police effectively.
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pedro2 wrote:
After looking at some of the ' shootings ' posted , it appears that the dysfunction is with the person with the object , and not the object.

So , once again , get rid of the object or the person with the crazed behavior ?

I really never witnessed real brainwashing until I saw the multiple insane posts from a certain poster.

Hmm , get rid of the thread or the poster ?

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Sorry Spacebro' but that made me LMAO! Clever Pedro. :wink: I do believe in some kind of universal (commie word I know) background check, just because of the mental issues. Who has what now should be grandfathered in and any further sales of weapons of mass killing power should stop. If you want a Bushmaster so bad, keep it. I like the M-16 myself. Sooner or later we'll have to make our own bullets though. I like shooting guns where it's safe. Schools and crowds are no place for any weapons of mass destruction. Like d'uh! It would seem prudent to check out mental health backgrounds, seeing as most of these guys have had some mental health issues. IMHO.

We shot Bin Ladin 2 yrs. ago today. So guns can do some good when in the hands of a trained marksman. Why didn't they shoot his ass before 9/11! One 75 cent bullet would have saved a lot of bread and lives! Saddam Hussein too! The CIA dropped the ball in the middle east. Period.
Is Syria our next war or Iran perhaps? :roll:

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Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people. In many cases, people with guns who kill people don't have prior symtoms of mental illness or criminal records, so blaming gun deaths on the mentally ill and criminals are just more excuses and losing arguments, especially when someones 5 year old is given a loaded gun, and they kill their 2 year old sibling. The 5 year old most likely isn't mentally ill or have a criminal record, but someone showed him how to shoot a gun. It's really just a bunch of lame ass excuses from a bunch of lame asses who think their lame ass hobby is more important than a 5 year olds life, or a classroom/schoolhouse full of 5 and 6 year olds, or the two year old.


Another point, civilians really have no reason to own military grade assault weapons.

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MAJOR SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN THE UNITED STATES - 2005 - 2006 School year

August 19, 2005: Miami, FL

A 17-year-old male high school student was shot and killed in a stadium parking lot following an exhibition high school football game. Police later arrested a 19-year-old male suspect. Reports indicate the incident stemmed from earlier conflicts and/or threats.



August 29, 2005: West Valley City, UT

A 21-year-old male was arrested and subsequently charged for vehicular homicide investigation in the death of a 15-year-old male high school student. The suspect was reportedly speeding through the high school parking lot around 2:30pm and threw at glass bottle at a student. The suspect allegedly left the area, made an abrupt U-turn, returned, and according to witnesses intentionally swerved toward the 15-year-old male, who was straddling a bike, and hit him. The victim was reportedly thrown about 100 feet. The victim sped off from the area with a cracked windshield and was subsequently arrested by police when found hiding in a window well of a nearby house from where the car was abandoned.



September 8, 2005: Richmond, CA

A high school custodian who was unlocking the school doors around 6:00am found the dead body of a 28-year-old male on the campus. The victim, who was reportedly paroled less than 24 hours prior to his death, had been shot to death. Police said it was not a "body dump" and appeared to have happened at the school. The body was removed before students arrived but the crime scene was not cleared until shortly after school opened, according to reports. School officials diverted students from the crime scene, directed students to focus on their classwork, and provided two school psychologists for counseling, as needed.



September 23, 2005: Sandy Spring, MD

A 15-year-old female student was stabbed and subsequently died during a fight between two groups of females around 8:30pm in a high school parking lot following a school football game. The incident reported stemmed from an ongoing conflict for multiple weeks over one girl spitting at the other.



September 30, 2005: New York, NY

Four students suffered stab wounds and a 15-year-old male was stabbed to death in a fight with another group of students in front of a Manhattan high school. The 15-year-old died from a massive wound to his stomach according to reports.



October 7, 2005: Richardson, TX

A 17-year-old male high school student was shot and killed after fights erupted between two groups in a mall parking lot following a high school football game. The fights reportedly were a continuation from a confrontation which started at the high school after the game. Shots were fired and the victim, an innocent bystander, was killed while five others were also shot. Nine people were shot after three separate football games that evening, with the 17-year-old victim being the only one who died.



October 26, 2005: Moulton, AL

A 55-year-old female first grade teacher was beaten and subsequently died due to irreversible brain damage. The incident occurred at an educational facility used during the day for Head Start and in the evening for adult education classes, where the teacher worked in addition to her elementary school position. A 15-year-old, eighth-grade male high school student was arrested and charged for murder. Police believe the suspect beat the victim unconscious with his fists before going through her purse and stealing money. The victim was reportedly working alone in the facility doing administrative work when the attack occurred between 4:00pm and 5:00pm.



October 27, 2005: Fresno, CA

A 37-year-old male was shot and killed near the staff parking lot of an elementary school. The victim was a parent at the school. The school was put on lockdown. Police reported that the incident was gang-related to a non-school matter involving the victim.



October 27, 2005: San Leandro, CA

A 14-year-old female high school student was shot three times in the back and killed while walking to school just blocks away from her high school. A male, believed to be a non-student between 16 and 18 years old, allegedly got out of a car, shot the 14-year-old in the back, and then killed himself in an apparent murder-suicide. Police confirmed the two knew each other.



November 2, 2005: Houston, TX

A 16-year-old male high school student was shot in the head while standing at a subdivision area home on his way home from school around 3:45pm and died the next day. Police initially believed there may have been two groups waiting for a gang-related fight when three shots were fired from a car driving by. School officials planned beefed up security and counselors at the school following rumors of possible retaliation.



November 8, 2005: Jacksboro, TN

A 15-year-old male high school freshman shot and killed an assistant principal. The principal and another assistant were also shot and hospitalized during the incident.



November 16, 2005: San Antonio, TX

A school police officer shot and killed an 18-year-old male who allegedly attempted to run down the officer as he attempted to stop the suspect and another male from stealing a car in a middle school parking lot.



November 17, 2005: Tampa, FL

A 17-year-old male high school senior was shot to death after school in a McDonald's parking lot across the street from his high school. Three other teens, ages 15, 16, and 19, were shot and treated at a hospital. The shots were fired from a car after fistfights broke out in the restaurant parking lot. An 18-year-old was arrested the next day. Some said the fighting was gang-related, but authorities described it as neighborhood and/or territorial disputes.



December 6, 2005: Garden Grove, CA

A 16-year-old male high school student was beaten and then shot in the chest with one gunshot, and later died at the hospital. The victim reportedly was involved in a fight around 3:00pm near a path connecting a street to the school's athletic fields. Reports indicate gang members jumped in to assist the victim, who was being beaten, when a member of the original group pulled a gun and shot the victim. Police subsequently arrested six alleged gang members in connection with the murder.



December 16, 2005: New York, NY

A 56-year-old female school safety agent died of a heart attack after being assaulted by a 12-year-old female middle school student. The student was reportedly standing in line at a school dance when the safety agent asked her to leave at the direction of the principal, who wanted her removed due to an incident earlier in the day at school. Police said a fight broke out and the girl struck the safety agent, and the girl was restrained with the help of two additional school safety agents.



January 13, 2006: Longwood, FL

A 15-year-old male middle school student was shot by the SWAT team after pulling out a gun out in class, briefly taking another student hostage, and running through the school. The student, who police said was suicidal and threatening to kill himself, was isolated in a restroom where he was shot by the SWAT team after he reportedly raised the gun at a deputy. The gun was later found to be a pellet gun fashioned after a 9mm handgun, which is what the police later reported as believing what he actually had in his possession. The 15-year-old died from his injuries the next day, according to reports.



January 13, 2006: Pinson, AL

A 17-year-old male high school junior was shot in the neck and groin during a fight with a 20-year-old male high school senior in a high school parking lot after a high school basketball game. Deputies arrested the 20-year-old male in the parking lot after the incident.



January 30, 2006: Great Falls, MT

A 16-year-old male high school student walked off his bus, into a school restroom, and fatally shot himself in the head around 8:00am. The principal, who was nearby, ran to the restroom and found the body. Police report that the male suffered a single self-inflicted gunshot to his head from a large-caliber weapon.



March 23, 2006: Milwaukee, WI

A 15-year-old male 7th-grade middle school was beaten to death at a bus stop a couple blocks from his school while awaiting a bus around 1:50pm. The victim had received an early release for a doctor's appointment.



May 5, 2006: Miramar, FL

A 19-year-old male was shot in the head with a single gunshot and died following a fight outside of a charter high school dance around 11:35pm.



May 18, 2006: Conway, SC

An 18-year-old female high school student was stabbed to death in a middle school parking lot on a complex shared by the high school and middle school. A 24-year-old male was arrested shortly after the stabbing. The incident occurred around 8:00am as students were arriving at school. Initial reports indicate the two may have had some type of dating relationship.



June 5, 2006: Los Angeles, CA

A 17-year-old male high school student was shot and killed in a high school parking lot as school dismissed around 3:00pm. The victim was reportedly shot by a gang member after two males approached the victim's younger brother, called the name of a gang, and tried to rob the victim's younger brother of his diamond necklace. The victim went to help his brother and was shot in the chest, and died.



June 6, 2006: Gary, IN
A 21-year-old male was shot and killed in a high school parking lot during a high school graduation ceremony. Two brothers, ages 28 and 18, were arrested. Police indicate that incident stemmed from an ongoing feud between the suspects and victim.



July 12, 2006: Los Angeles, CA

A 16-year-old female was shot and killed about three blocks from her school after 1:00pm. The female reportedly was with a group of friends. Police say the incident may have been gang-related, although the victim was not in a gang. The victim's brother reportedly told the media that the victim had allegedly warned school police before leaving the school that people had been threatening students in the area with guns.



July 31, 2006: Tampa, FL

A husband and wife were found by a delivery person around 6:20am shot dead outside of a middle school where the woman worked as a cafeteria manager. The female, age 38, and the male, age 54, were found on either side of their vehicle in the parking lot. Police were investigating possible causes including murder-suicide. Grief counseling was offered to staff who reported to the school later in the day.





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In addition to mandatory background checks on ALL gun sales, tranfers and ammo purchases, there has to be restrictions on what kind of guns and capacity round clips people can legally own. A basic hunting rifle or shotgun or antique pearl handle Colt 45 6-shooters are one thing, but AK-47s or other semi-automatic rapid fire high capacity machine gun type assault weapons are completely unnecessary and impractical. Stupid is as stupid does.


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I'm pretty disturbed by the existence of a gun for toddlers. A gun is not a toy.

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