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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:19 pm 
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I'll explain:

One day last year my dad showed me Frank, ad I loved it. He has got OSFA, Zoot, ('), and Overnite. From the things I showed him, he hated Hot Rats, but quite liked Freak Out, and naturally loved Roxy (1973-1975 is the period he mostly knows and likes). Tomorrow I'll play him Zappa In New York, and I'm thinking of howing him Absolutely Free in the future. Do you have any ideas about what would be next? Thanks btw

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:29 pm 
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YCDTOSA 2 should be in his wheel house


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If he liked Freak Out he'll adore Absolutely Free. And WOIIFTM will kill him dead. Can't go wrong.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:46 am 
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wakawazooinregalia' wrote:
Do you have any ideas

What about asking your dad how interested he is --
before you set your gauges to forcefeedhyperblast?

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So far, Plook's idea sounds good. Need some more info though. What did he not like about Hot Rats? I would need to know that before making suggestions that might turn him completely off from Zappa.


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Duh next you trying too tell him how too Fuck,How is it possible too Convert somebody when they said they like some and not like other albums.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:24 am 
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I had forgotten YCDTOSA! So, I'll try Absolutely Free. He says Hot Rats is "repetitive". I never got that. I think he doesn't like the horns or something like that. But he quite liked Live In New York except for The Purple Lagoon(he gets bored). Also, he likes the song Mr Green Genes, but isn't prepared for Uncle Meat yet. And for WOIIFTM neither(one day I was playing it and he said he wasn't interested in that kind of music, usual for first listen).
From Roxy he says he doesn't like Echidna so much but I think it's just that he heard it only a few times. His favorite zappa songs are St. Alfonzo's, Father Ovblivion, Inca Roads and Andy. His favourite albums are OSFA, Apostrophe, and Overnite. He listens to different genres, all outside of classical and jazz(just Kind Of Blue and Bitches Brew). I might put him The Grand Wazoo or Aaka Jawaka

Any kind of progress I'll tell you. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:33 am 
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cleon wrote:
Duh next you trying too tell him how too Fuck,How is it possible too Convert somebody when they said they like some and not like other albums.

Whoa. Two much.

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Have you tried Sheik Yerbouti and You Are What You Is yet? Maybe even lay Broadway the Hard Way on him.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:49 am 
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I still say you should go with something along the lines of
"Hey papa, how interested are you in delving into the world of Frank Zappa?".

His answer will indicate his intentions thus aiding us (the readers)
and you (the son) on which way we should go with this.

Good luck!

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About live in new york, he says Terry Bozzio is stupid, and his favourite tracks were Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me?, I'm The Slime(he laughed a lot when don Pardo says "I'm the slime, I'm the slime") and Pound For A Brown. He got bored with Illinois Enema. He said he likes Zappa a lot when he's groovy, his funky stuff. Oh, and he has TTR but he says he doesn't like it. Anyway, this is stupid. I never make intersting topics... :cry:

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Terry Bozzio stupid !!?
Perhaps the Muppets take Manhattan soundtrack may be more up his alley.

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Terry Bozzio stupid !!?
Perhaps the Muppets take Manhattan soundtrack may be more up his alley.

:wink: I gave up.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:31 am 
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It is for the best really, kind sir.
Now - what nonzappa ingredients make up your teacup?

Perhaps I can convert you into ... something.

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It is for the best really, kind sir.
Now - what nonzappa ingredients make up your teacup?

Perhaps I can convert you into ... something.

It's all explained in favourite artist besides Frank thread- Miles Davis, Pat Metheny, Wes, Coltrane, Hendrix, Floyd (until Animals), a bit of Rush, some things of The Beatles, Robert Johnsondon't know too much but love Varese, Bartok and Stravinsky.

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Ok, those are favorites, but is there something that you have a real hankering for?
That unreachable itch.

I may be able to help you in that Robert Johnson direction. Need more info.

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Well, I like the way he plays the guitar. CPIII is my brand new favourite Zappa album. REALLY love all the creepness and darkness it's got. That's why I like those classical musicians. I like atonal music the most. I gotta hear Penderecki and Lygeti.

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wakawazooinregalia' wrote:
Floyd (until Animals)


Until Animals or through Animals? Please tell me you meant through. If not, you stopped one album too soon. :wink:


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Philostopher wrote:
wakawazooinregalia' wrote:
Floyd (until Animals)


Until Animals or through Animals? Please tell me you meant through. If not, you stopped one album too soon. :wink:

Through Animals, until The Wall.

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wakawazooinregalia' wrote:
Philostopher wrote:
wakawazooinregalia' wrote:
Floyd (until Animals)


Until Animals or through Animals? Please tell me you meant through. If not, you stopped one album too soon. :wink:

Through Animals, until The Wall.


Perfect. :)


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Philostopher wrote:
wakawazooinregalia' wrote:
Philostopher wrote:

Until Animals or through Animals? Please tell me you meant through. If not, you stopped one album too soon. :wink:

Through Animals, until The Wall.


Perfect. :)

:) I was a floyd fan for one year and loved the Wall, but now I realised it's crap.

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wakawazooinregalia' wrote:
REALLY love all the creepness and darkness it's got. That's why I like those classical musicians. I like atonal music the most. I gotta hear Penderecki and Lygeti.

Oh man, Let's start with a no-brainer:

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One of my favorites ... but we can keep going.

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wakawazooinregalia' wrote:
I was a floyd fan for one year and loved the Wall, but now I realised it's crap.

Hey woozinwakaregazoolio, out of genuine curiousity,
what brought about the realization? Are you referring to the fading joy
that may be brought on by wearing out a favorite recording?

AKA
repetition
and repetition
and repetition
and repetition
and repetition
and rinse/repeat

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wakawazooinregalia' wrote:
REALLY love all the creepness and darkness it's got. That's why I like those classical musicians. I like atonal music the most. I gotta hear Penderecki and Lygeti.

Oh man, Let's start with a no-brainer:

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One of my favorites ... but we can keep going.

When I was a kid The Shining was my favourite film, (I have watched it minimum 50 times) and the music always blew me away. That's how I discovered Bartok, Penderecki and Lygeti. The thing is, I have an 8cd box set from Bartok, and I only heard 2 cds, but from the other 2 composers only heard The Shining soundtrack. :wink:

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wakawazooinregalia' wrote:
I was a floyd fan for one year and loved the Wall, but now I realised it's crap.

Hey woozinwakaregazoolio, out of genuine curiousity,
what brought about the realization? Are you referring to the fading joy
that may be brought on by wearing out a favorite recording?

AKA
repetition
and repetition
and repetition
and repetition
and repetition
and rinse/repeat

Well, crap was too much, but the thing is, at that time, every thing Floyd made(except for, maybe, AMLOR) was untouchable only because it was Pink Floyd. I thought I loved it, but if I revise the tracklist now I see that most of the songs are not that great as I used to think. Believe me, I liked Young Lust a lot. Now, I LOVE Hey You and Comfortably Numb. I don't care too much about ABITW Pt. 2 and 3, Young Lust, Don't Leave Me Now, Goodbye Cruel World, Nobody Home, Bring The Boys Back Home, Waiting For The Worms and Stop. The rest is allright.

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