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I love Ship Ahoy, but is it tone or effects?  I dig the sound of it, but I'm not so sure I'm hearing what the guitar sounds like underneath the effect.  Either way, I love it.<br><br>I really like Frank's guitar sound on the Shut Up... CD's.<br>The non-album versions of Black Napkins,Watermelon, and Zoot Allures on FZPlaysFZ are favorites of mine also.<br><br>I do like the late 80's tone, but it doesn't have the 'balls' of the Custom Les Paul or the SG's of the years before.  <br><br>T<br>

The Guitar tone on Sexual Harassment gives me chills. I think it is perfect.

his dirtiest tone has to be the stage 2 set. amazing how he switched from that one to the clean tones of the 80's bands. i especially like his 88 tone

[quote author=josh link=board=rant&num=1031362714&start=0#2 date=09/06/02 at 18:25:03]<br><br><br>Effect and Tone are basically the same thing! ??? If you want to get techinical about it; what I mean is the actual sound produced by FZ's guitar, whether it's an effect or an organically sounding tone!<br>[/quote]<br><br>I've always believed that tone is in the fingers.  I don't hear tone and sound as the same thing.  Fingers/guitar/amp are the root of tone.  Effects enhance the sound of the tone.  This is just the way I hear things.<br><br>T

I'm especially fond of FZ's early Seventies guitar tone, like on Overnite Sensation or Roxy and Elsewhere.  <br><br>The Zoot Allures-version of Black Napkins has great tone as well, especially in the middle of the solo where it sounds 'robot-like' (can't really explain this properly...). What kind of guitar pedal is he using there?

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Didn't Dweezil do a patch for the Zoom effects processor that pretty much matched that effect?  I've got the cheap 505 pedal, and that effect is programmed in on it.  I know DZ did some patches for them when the Zoom was first coming out.<br>I don't remember if the patch had a name or not.<br><br>T

watermelon<br>555<br>secret carlos santana chord progression<br>and all of <br><br>zoot allures

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Nothing sounds as goodas the nasty SG...<br>Ahhh The roxy And elsewhere....<br>By the way will we see a DVD of this?

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For me Frank's best guitarwork and therefore is best guitartones are the following:<br><br>On Hot Rats (a virtuoso coming out...)<br>His best guitarwork (in my humble opinion) in the 70's was the following:<br>1971-1972-1973-1977-1978-1979<br>His 1981 bits are equally awesome, but his best ever guitarplaying he ever performed was during the 1982 tour:<br>this reduces Jimi Hendrix to thin air.......

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I´m not a guitar player, so I can´t tell about types of guitar and amps and so forth...<br>here`s what I like as a sound source:<br><br>The Ship Ahoy - tone is really nice bacause he didn`t use it quite too often<br>I erally enjoy the 88 clean sound and zthe way his guitar sounded on Yo Mama on SY.<br>Not to be forgotten: the wah-wah tone on the original OSFA Inca Roads solo!!!

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I got a Cheesy little Zoom 505 Guitar effect pedal for about $50 that has the "ship Ahoy" effect

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I love the tone on 'Yo Mamma'. To me it sounds like there is a slight effervescent quality ( not buzz, you understand). A slight fizz that makes it sound alive. This is my fave guitar tone of all time.
Eddie's tone on the 5150 album comes second.

the really dirty fuzzy muted wah-wah sound at the end of Eat That Question is one of my favorites

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