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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:29 pm 
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Did Frank pay musical or otherwise tribute in any way?

inserting a Beatles riff in a solo somewhere or something ?
someone with a boot of a gig around this time know ?

I've just read that he was shocked by it, obviously, and I know he was touring right around that time. Did he postpone any gigs?

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want time in 80 did he die.check on the zappabasa 2 off zappateers?

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want time in 80 did he die.check on the zappabasa 2 off zappa zapparteers?


December 8. Doubt that Frank did a musical tribute.

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Did Frank pay musical or otherwise tribute in any way?

inserting a Beatles riff in a solo somewhere or something ?
someone with a boot of a gig around this time know ?

I've just read that he was shocked by it, obviously, and I know he was touring right around that time. Did he postpone any gigs?


Where did you read that? Curious as to what he said.

I do remember hearing something that Captain Beefheart did, though. He got up on stage, did a long,beautiful sax solo, then said 'That was from John, through Don, for Sean.' Nice.


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Where did you read that? Curious as to what he said.


really can't remember.... but I'm sure I read it somewhere.

hj, you say you doubt it, but frank was sensitive in his own way, just listen to his guitar solos for proof (not suggesting you think otherwise). i'm sure he wouldn't just ignore it ? a major world event, and someone whom he met and jammed with ?

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timm0 wrote:
Did Frank pay musical or otherwise tribute in any way?

inserting a Beatles riff in a solo somewhere or something ?
someone with a boot of a gig around this time know ?

I've just read that he was shocked by it, obviously, and I know he was touring right around that time. Did he postpone any gigs?

I'm not sure if this answers the questions, but Frank did insert Beatle riffs subsequent to John's death. Two examples are riffs from "Strawberry Fields Forever," which can be found in "What Kind Of Girl?" (1988) from Broadway The Hardway and "We're Turning Again" (Mannheim, 1988) from YCDTOSA Vol. 6.

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:arrow: .The Complete Mark Pinske Interview - Day Two

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Mark Pinske: There's two things I saw that meant a lot to Frank. The Hendrix guitar that was given to him, and then, unfortunately, the sad death of John Lennon. Which had a profound effect on him.

Mix: Which was in 1980, wasn't it?

Pinske: Yeah. We were in Berkeley. He almost didn't go on stage that night. We almost cancelled the show, I think. One of those things on the road, you know?


From the Zappa tour schedule that I double-checked this on, it says they were in Santa Barbara, CA (dec. 8, 1980).
But, if Pinske got the city wrong, doesn't really matter, imo.

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the band did play I Love Lucy from the tv show the night he got shoot mixed with the first song?if it was 11 o,clock when lennon got shot what time was the shows start in CA.

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Ha. I was almost going to say that maybe news got to him late, but it would be sorta hard not to realize John Lennon was dead.


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cheers, mr lumpers, i knew someone would turn something up.. :mrgreen:

ta, jimmie. obviously i knew about the '88 references, but i was after a reaction that might have happened in the days after it happened.

hey, don't read that interview too closely, or the whole 'lp sides over 20mins' debate might just flare up again, hahah.. legendary thread. :D

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oh yeah, when i was in prague last week, i went to the john lennon wall..

part of it: Image

i know it's liable to change, but some graffitti wankers have covered it all up with their shitty slogans! :x

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yes, he did play santa barbara the night lennon was shot. i went to the concert, and we did'nt find out until after when we were listening to the radio. he made no mention of it during the encore, perhaps they were keeping the info from him until later. berkely was probably the next gig. sure did put a damper on a great evening for awhile, but then we started talking about the great show.....

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yes, he did play santa barbara the night lennon was shot. i went to the concert, and we did'nt find out until after when we were listening to the radio. he made no mention of it during the encore, perhaps they were keeping the info from him until later. berkely was probably the next gig. sure did put a damper on a great evening for awhile, but then we started talking about the great show.....

Do you still have your ticket stub? I'd love a copy, if you do. BTW, Berkeley was on the 5th, prior to Santa Barbara, and the gig on December 9th was in San Diego.


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yes, he did play santa barbara the night lennon was shot. i went to the concert, and we did'nt find out until after when we were listening to the radio. he made no mention of it during the encore, perhaps they were keeping the info from him until later. berkely was probably the next gig. sure did put a damper on a great evening for awhile, but then we started talking about the great show.....
I think if Zappa himself knew he would have kept quiet about it and not announced it from the stage, thinking, "Let's just have a good show here and not upset anybody needlessly. They're sure to find out as soon as they leave."
Lennon's murder wouldn't exactly qualify as, Creative deviation from the norm.

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Lennon was shot at about 10:50PM Eastern Time, and was declared dead at 11:15 (if you care to look, you can find his death certificate on the Web). The first official announcement of his death was at about 11:30.

California is three hours behind New York, so Lennon died at 8:15 Pacific Time. Frank Zappa was almost certainly onstage at that moment, and I sincerely doubt anyone would have told him about it during the show. Most likely he found out right after the show was over.

Since the Zappa house is only about 100 miles from Santa Barbara (and halfway to the next gig in San Diego), Frank likely went home after the show. I can just picture him sitting in the back of the limo with John Smothers and possibly Gail, listening to the radio in stunned silence. And I imagine his homecoming after a two month tour was less-than-triumphal...

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Jesus, some people really want to even know what toilet paper Frank used when he wiped his arse at 6:55, july 10th 1977

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Jesus, some people really want to even know what toilet paper Frank used when he wiped his arse at 6:55, july 10th 1977


pm or am ? :P

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if it was pm i would have said 18:55, touche :P

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if you're refering to the whole topic, i dont see what's so anal about wanting to know fz's opinion on the pointless death of one the most famous people ever, someone who he worked with too.

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Jesus, some people really want to even know what toilet paper Frank used when he wiped his arse at 6:55, july 10th 1977


Yeah, that would be exactly the same thing as wondering how Zappa took the news that Lennon had been killed...








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if it was pm i would have said 18:55, touche :P


Actually, you COULD have said 18:55. Not everyone speaks in standard time.


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you call this an argument?
you made a stupid remark, I called you an idiot, and that's all there is to it. :mrgreen:

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you call this an argument?
you made a stupid remark, I called you an idiot, and that's all there is to it. :mrgreen:

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