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who's the living best guitarist?
john mclaughlin 29%  29%  [ 6 ]
allan holdsworth 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
steve vai 33%  33%  [ 7 ]
robert fripp 10%  10%  [ 2 ]
adrian belew 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
dweezil 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
pat metheny 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
pierre bensusan 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
birlli legrene 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
the guy in meshuggah 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
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please choose your preference.

obviously there is no such thing as the best guitarist but who do you consider being top shelf above the rest according to your own musical taste. and why

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Yeah, obviously, no such thing and your list misses lots of great names.

But considering the choises given, I've voted McLaughlin: does anyone have that quote of Zappa saying that "a guy who manipulates his guitar as a machine gun..."?

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i could only go with so many options. Who is in your top list?

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
But considering the choises given, I've voted McLaughlin: does anyone have that quote of Zappa saying that "a guy who manipulates his guitar as a machine gun..."?


You bet! Here it is:

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A person woud be a moron not to appreciate McLaughlin's technique. The guy has certainly found out how to operate a guitar as if it were a machine gun. But I'm not always enthusiastic about the lines I hear or the ways in which they're used. I don't think you can fault him, though, for the amount of time and effort it must have taken to play an instrument that fast. I think anybody who can play that fast is just wonderful. And I'm sure 90% of teenage America would agree, since the whole trend in the business has been "faster is better."


...and please listen to the tiny hint of sarcasm in zappa's voice...

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
But considering the choises given, I've voted McLaughlin: does anyone have that quote of Zappa saying that "a guy who manipulates his guitar as a machine gun..."?


You bet! Here it is:

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A person woud be a moron not to appreciate McLaughlin's technique. The guy has certainly found out how to operate a guitar as if it were a machine gun. But I'm not always enthusiastic about the lines I hear or the ways in which they're used. I don't think you can fault him, though, for the amount of time and effort it must have taken to play an instrument that fast. I think anybody who can play that fast is just wonderful. And I'm sure 90% of teenage America would agree, since the whole trend in the business has been "faster is better."


...and please listen to the tiny hint of sarcasm in zappa's voice...


Pele told me that Frank loved McLaughlin and was lying about this.


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Lumpy Gravy wrote:
Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
But considering the choises given, I've voted McLaughlin: does anyone have that quote of Zappa saying that "a guy who manipulates his guitar as a machine gun..."?


You bet! Here it is:

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A person woud be a moron not to appreciate McLaughlin's technique. The guy has certainly found out how to operate a guitar as if it were a machine gun. But I'm not always enthusiastic about the lines I hear or the ways in which they're used. I don't think you can fault him, though, for the amount of time and effort it must have taken to play an instrument that fast. I think anybody who can play that fast is just wonderful. And I'm sure 90% of teenage America would agree, since the whole trend in the business has been "faster is better."


...and please listen to the tiny hint of sarcasm in zappa's voice...



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John McLaughlin?

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I met John. I think he's a great guitar player and I think that he's probably done a lot to educate American audiences to some aspects of Eastern music that they wouldn't have come into contact with before. We did a tour with McLaughlin and old Mahavishnu, we did 11 concerts with them.

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anyway; I would cast my vote for Tom Verlaine.

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Some obvious choices in that list (McLaughlin especially) but some less obvious or left out choices for now-a-days....

Jimmy Herring
Al Dimeola
Steve Morse
Oz Noy
Mike Keneally
Keith Howland

and way too many others to mention.


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montgomery? he's dead.

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Huh, didn't know Jeff Beck was dead. :cry: But, if he were indeed still alive, I'd vote for him. Nobody gets as much out of a note as Jeff.

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I'll add a few more relevant players.

Vernon Reid, Bill Frisell, Paco de Lucia, Buckethead, Tsijiz Munoz. Jimmy Rosenberg, Lobi Traore. Djelimady Tounkara, and also Ryo Kawasaki haven't heard him in years but he could play anything on a guitar.

i guess joe satriani would belong in there.

and my hero David Lindley

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Jeff Beck, Allan Holdsworth, Billy Gibbons, Paco de Lucia, Ray Gomez
but there is so much :roll:

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Yep. Vernon Reid. Steve Howe. Buckethead. Bill Frisell. Marc Ribot.......Lots of em should be in the list, no?


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When it comes to McLaughlin, I doubtless prefer his more restrained and more elegant, subtle playing on "In a Silent Way" by Miles Davis, as opposed to the noodly gymnastics he whips out for most of the time. What FZ did was way opposed to the widdly wank you could expect from a lot of shredders and fusioneer noodlers. He could play fast, but he never made 300 notes per minute his motto. He would invent new melodies with his solos, rather than rely on tried and true scale run modus operandi so typical of shredders and fusioneers. I wish more guitarists were like that: that they would use manual dexterity solely for getting a point across, as opposed to shitting out craploads of notes while saying nothing worthwhile except "look at me, I can shred fast!". Meh.

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PACO . If not, ask for him to JOHN. :lol:


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Oops, I forgot the living detail. Paco is great. Egberto Gismonti is also a monster...

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I voted McLaughlin cos well he's pretty good

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Jeff Beck, Paco de Lucia, Ray Gomez
but there is so much :roll:


Them too. Especially Ray Gomez.


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My dear Mister/Miss Muziko,

Correct me if i am wrong, but judging from the names within your poll, you are not familiair with bands such as RUSH, TOOL & RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE.

If you are, then howcome the following names are not included ???

1: ALEX LIFESON (RUSH---->new album out soon...)
2: ADAM JONES (TOOL)
3: TOM MORELLO (RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE/AUDIOSLAVE)

Each one of these are legends in my opinion and should not have been overlooked in your poll.

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Studebaker wrote:
"Rating guitarists is a stupid hobby." - FZ


Easy for him to say, being possibly one of the most talented and under-rated guitarplayers ever...

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<...insert my favorite guitarist here...>

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Fill in the blank...

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