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I think it could be an early synclavier track. Some of the sounds/patches (whatever you call them) look like things on JFH and FZMTMOP.


yeah, it's zappa. he composed it when he was in darmstadt, germany, 1962. with the boys from brazil.

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Definitely not Zappa.
The parallel 12ths at 2:06 - 2:20 ought to convince you.
A few motifs just touches on Zappa, but the whole organization and mixture of elements isn't in his line at all.
Plus: it's hardly a synclavier. Sounds very General MIDI to me (- it's not an analogue accordion, Morbo, as you can tell from the vibrato).

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
I think it could be an early synclavier track. Some of the sounds/patches (whatever you call them) look like things on JFH and FZMTMOP.


yeah, it's zappa. he composed it when he was in darmstadt, germany, 1962. with the boys from brazil.


Are you accusing Zappa of have been involved with the Nazis?
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Back to the issue. Anyone willing to ask the vaultmeister?

If I heard Basement Music unaware, I guess I wouldn't say it is Zappa...

Anyway I finally could get it from the internet and it was labelled Zappa.

Someone willing to show their compositions skill and labelled it as such so he could get his work across? Or a strayed gem.

I like it anyway...

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Are you accusing Zappa of have been involved with the Nazis?
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yeah, it's zappa. he composed it when he was in darmstadt, germany, 1962. with the boys from brazil.


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6 years later...

Definitively Zappa!

Frank Zappa - Lakshi's Delight (rare synclavier piece)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66PxJWforEM

Lakshi's Delight
Also known as Lakshi's Delite
Recorded circa 1987 ~ 1989, UMRK

The Outtakes Flood continues...

Here is an unreleased Synclavier track from the post-Jazz From Hell, pre-Civilization Phaze III era, named in tribute to FZ's boon companion Lakshminarayana Shankar.

Please note: It is my understanding that this track originates from a lossy source.

It is also my understanding, from the super-cool person who was the source of many of my rarest FZ rarities, that this track does not circulate in any other form.

My guess is that— like the Beatles Get Back reels— this track was archived via minidisc or similar compressed storage medium as part of its lineage.

Lakshi just might be my favourite unreleased FZ track of all time. I've never come across another copy. I believe the quality and ultra-scarcity of this piece should overcome any qualms about source. If any of the faithful here can prove me wrong by posting a lossless version, please do so! If not, and if the lineage of this track is accepted, perhaps this thread could be moved to the Outtakes/Unreleased forum.

In the meantime, enjoy this rarest of Zappa treats!

I dedicate this torrent to my friends from Zappanale 18. May we meet again at Zappanale 19!

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Lineage: (sorry, can't reveal the original source) > unknown digital storage medium (possibly minidisc) > CDR > EAC v0.95 beta 4 > wav > TLH 1.1.1 (Build 90) > flac Level 8 > your ears


This post is dedicated to all the [pseudo]skeptics around...

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 Post subject: Re: Lakshi's Delite
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Wow. That is really cool that you found it all these years later

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Yes, it does not sound like typical FZ synclavier track. But on the other hand, neither Dio Fa or Calculus does...


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 Post subject: Re: Lakshi's Delite
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I could be wrong, but I remain skeptical about this being a Zappa composition. The rhythmic approach and certain compositional cliches (mainly the descending sequences near the beginning) just don't sound like FZ at all to my mind. Maybe it's just that the whole thing is too slow--one or two posters in the Zappateers thread suggest that it may have been played back at the wrong sample speed.


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 Post subject: Re: Lakshi's Delite
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There are definitely parts of "Aerobics in Bondage" in this clip.

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 Post subject: Re: Lakshi's Delite
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I say NO, not Frank.
And like a poster above, it doesn't sound like the synclavier at all to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Lakshi's Delite
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It's so easy to find out if this is Frank. Ask in the "Talk To Frank" thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Lakshi's Delite
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This ain't Zappa...gimme a break!
Not at all his sound.
Sounds more like Wendy Carlos on synclavier.
Something from the Beauty in the Beast period.

(Incidentally, one of my favourite albums of all time.)


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Given the lack of any definitive evidence as per who actually did this track, I maintain this is not Frank until proven otherwise.

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It only proves how diverse Frank's musical head was... The poster at Zappateers protected his source (for obvious reasons) but said it came from the UMRK. Live with it.

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I would argue that the bits and pieces I've heard from Dance Me This are not Zappa if I were presented the music in another context.

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 Post subject: Re: Lakshi's Delite
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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
It only proves how diverse Frank's musical head was... The poster at Zappateers protected his source (for obvious reasons) but said it came from the UMRK. Live with it.


No reason to get heated.


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Well, since this was stolen from UMRK, it's safe to assume that he didn't want it released.

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Even if it's from UMRK, does that necessarily mean it's Zappa's work? Could've been an experiment by someone else who worked with FZ's gear, like David Ocker (who did the note inputting for Francesco) or one of the engineers.


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 Post subject: Re: Lakshi's Delite
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Surely it could be possible to contact someone from inside to definitively (dis)prove Frank's ownership of this composition. It really bothers me how many people are taking it on faith only that this is Zappa. One has to be more skeptical than that.

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calvin2hikers wrote:
Well, since this was stolen from UMRK, it's safe to assume that he didn't want it released.


as far as I know, most of the leaked unreleased UMRK recordings were not stolen.


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calvin2hikers wrote:
Well, since this was stolen from UMRK, it's safe to assume that he didn't want it released.


as far as I know, most of the leaked unreleased UMRK recordings were not stolen.


So Frank leaked it?

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