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This is a vid about the US Empire in Latin America. For those of you who don't know and for those of you who forgot:

The War On Democracy by John Pilger

The War on Democracy is a 2007 documentary film directed by Christopher Martin and John Pilger. Focusing on the political state of Latin America, the film is a rebuke of both the United States' intervention in foreign countries' domestic politics, and its war on terrorism. The film was first released in the United Kingdom on June 15, 2007. It has also been shown on the British terrestrial channel ITV 1 on Monday 20th August at 11pm.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_on_Democracy

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Appalling...the relatives I have in Nicaragua are still reeling from the effects of this war on democracy.

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I saw The War on Democracy this summer on the television in England. Excellent film. John Pilger's done an outstanding job.

The interview with the ex-director of the CIA made me want to violently wound right wing nutters.

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Appalling...the relatives I have in Nicaragua are still reeling from the effects of this war on democracy.



Interesting....I also have relatives in Manaqua. The " democratic " forces took control of my uncle's houses and businesses , stole from them in the name of democracy , forced them to hire non- productive people for his diary processing plants , and literally stole millions from my aunt and uncle....all in the name of progressive democracy. And people wonder why I hated Ray-Gun so much.. :roll:

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Fucking hell, I tought this was about the Zappa komposichun. What a big fucking disappointment.

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Interesting....I also have relatives in Manaqua. The " democratic " forces took control of my uncle's houses and businesses , stole from them in the name of democracy , forced them to hire non- productive people for his diary processing plants , and literally stole millions from my aunt and uncle....all in the name of progressive democracy. And people wonder why I hated Ray-Gun so much..


same shit with my uncles and my grandparents. they will likely never recover from it, at least in their lifetime, and they can't afford to leave, either.

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
This is a vid about the US Empire in Latin America. For those of you who don't know and for those of you who forgot:

The War On Democracy by John Pilger

The War on Democracy is a 2007 documentary film directed by Christopher Martin and John Pilger. Focusing on the political state of Latin America, the film is a rebuke of both the United States' intervention in foreign countries' domestic politics, and its war on terrorism. The film was first released in the United Kingdom on June 15, 2007. It has also been shown on the British terrestrial channel ITV 1 on Monday 20th August at 11pm.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_on_Democracy

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I remember when I was a kid seeing the stuff he did on Pol pot and reading his books. I think every Austalian should read "A Secret Country." This guy is a true jorno in the old school sense, get in their and find out what the fucks going and tell people about it, simple.
http://www.johnpilger.com/
http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/ ... pilger.cfm

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Stun gun used during Kerry debate

University of Florida police used a stun gun on a student taking part in a forum with former presidential candidate John Kerry.


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Mr Meyer was restrained and pinned to the floor before being stunned

Andrew Meyer was questioning Senator Kerry on why he did not contest the results of the 2004 election.

University officials said he exceeded his allotted time and became disruptive after his microphone was cut off.

Video footage shows police pulling Mr Meyer from the audience and pinning him to the ground before stunning him.

The 21-year-old student can be heard screaming for help as the stun gun is administered.

Mr Meyer was arrested and charged with resisting an officer with violence and disturbing the peace, reports local newspaper the Gainesville Sun.

After spending the night in Alachua County jail, he was released on Tuesday morning, the Gainesville Sun reports.

A spokesman for the university, Steve Orlando, said campus police would conduct an internal investigation into whether the weapon had been used appropriately.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7001464.stm

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Why Did Senator John Kerry Stand Idly By?
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

COMPLETE ARTICLE HERE:
http://counterpunch.com/roberts09192007.html

Naïve Americans who think they live in a free society should watch the video filmed by students at a John Kerry speech September 17, Constitution Day, at the University of Florida in Gainesville.

At the conclusion of Kerry’s speech, Andrew Meyer, a 21-year old journalism student was selected by Senator Kerry to ask a question. Meyer held up a copy of BBC investigative reporter Greg Palast’s book, Armed Madhouse, and asked if Kerry was aware that Palast’s investigations determined that Kerry had actually won the election. Why, Meyer asked, had Kerry conceded the election so quickly when there were so many obvious examples of vote fraud? Why, Meyer, went on to ask, was Kerry refusing to consider Bush’s impeachment when Bush was about to initiate another act of military aggression, this time against Iran?

At this point the public’s protectors—the police—decided that Meyer had said too much. They grabbed Meyer and began dragging him off. Meyer said repeatedly, “I have done nothing wrong,” which under our laws he had not. He threatened no one and assaulted no one.

But the police decided that Meyer, an American citizen, had no right to free speech and no constitutional protection. They threw him to the floor and tasered him right in front of Senator Kerry and the large student audience, who captured on video the unquestionable act of police brutality. Meyer was carted off and jailed on a phony charge of “disrupting a public event.”


Now the most "respectful" Brazilian newspaper, citing Miami's France Press, actually said the boy was teasered because of asking of "the Yale's secrete society"

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/mundo/ult94u329569.shtml

Mr Amnerika welcome by, no more liberty of speech...

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You rather watch the video:
UF Student Tasered taser John Kerry book (High Quality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IATPoHdpak0


EDIT: HE WAS INDEED ATTCKED AND DEPRIVED OF HIS LIBERTY OF SPEECH BECAUSE OF ASKING IF KERRY WAS FROM SKULL AND BONES...

The BBC article didn't mention it...

This boy is a hero. How come forum people (except for a handful of cats) are so passive about this? This is all Frank stood against!!!

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Pre Scriptum: The following does not necessarily represents the view of the poster, being it posted here strictly to raise debate/reflection:

"Why America Sucks"
by ron corvus

I love America. I was born and raised in America.
The America we have today is but a shell of our former America and certainly does not provide a single ray of hope of change, considering the hopelessly corrupt Democratic and Republican Party. I don't give a DAMN what Obama or Hillary told you, the Democratic and Republican parties are indeed hopelessly corrupt and do NOT represent the Will of the People.
Here's why I believe America sucks today:
1.) The media used to be more independent of special interest, corporate and military influence and control. Today the media is a mouthpiece and willing advocate for these groups;
2.) Americans used to be more independent-minded and capable of critical thinking; today; today, despite the internet, too many Americans still rely upon and get their news from American print, broadcast and cablecast media, who feed their viewers and readers a steady diet of misinformation, propaganda and downright lies, 24/7/365.
3.) All violence all the time; moviemakers and television producers bear some responsibility for making the most violent shows ever seen; Americans have been de-sensitized to acts of violence since the average TV viewer witnesses scores of murders each and every night on television. Is this necessary? Or is it necessary for unscrupulous producers to highlight violence in their productions to maximize profits for themselves, the studio and stockholders? The average child views God knows how many murders and various acts of violence by the time they are 18 years of age. Is this really necessary? For entertainment? For what? For cash and prizes? For who?
4.) All war all the time; war, war, war...........the "War On Terror"......the "Global War On Terror." Bush and Cheney said "Terrorism will not end in our lifetime or our children's lifetime." Our government should STOP breaking our laws and constitution in sending our military all over the world to make war, war, war. al Qaeda my ass. Fear of al Qaeda does NOT justify our government breaking our nation's laws and violating our nation's constitution. Our nation spends over TRILLION DOLLARS a year on our military and "defense." al Qaeda doesn't spend even a million dollars a year in their budget. We already have laws and processes in place to deal with individual stateless actors who commit acts of terrorism against mainland America. Our government has no lawful, constitutional right to the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive military strikes and subsequent occupations. Where's the common sense, people? See, http://www.roncorvus.com/economy.htm
5.) Congress won't eliminate the federal income tax for the individual U.S. citizen. If Congress would CUT the bloated, oversized Pentagon budget, control wasteful government spending and implement true government oversight, control and discipline of huge multi-national corporations, we could afford to eliminate the federal income tax for the U.S. taxpayer. http://www.roncorvus.com/taxes.htm
6.) Congress will NEVER pass single-payer universal healthcare. The corporate duo-opoly controlling our nation's budget will NEVER pass true, universal healthcare in direct contravention of the drug lobbyists who write our nation's healthcare bills. Do you want to know the truth about implementing true universal healthcare in America? Then please read this: http://www.roncorvus.com/healthcare.htm
7.) Congress will NEVER pass universal fully-paid "no-strings attached" college tuition for all who graduate from high school. While high school graduates in India enjoy fully-paid "no-strings-attached" college tuition, Hillary, Obama and Bill Clinton are trying to con the youth of America into working for them and the U.S. government for free for an entire year of their lives, just to help pay for college tuition. Congress looks out for the tuition profiteers - the loans companies who make BILLIONS front-loading debt upon America's youth and families.
8.) Congress will NEVER STOP OVER FOUR MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS from crossing our Southern border each and every year, until America builds a true security barrier STOPPING illegal aliens from entering America. According to the U.S. media and government, there's no such thing as building a security barrier to STOP illegal immigration - BULL! Please see this: http://www.roncorvus.com/illegalimmigration.htm
9.) Candidate worship: Too many Americans are into "candidate worship." Gullible Americans believe they can improve their condition in America by electing their favorite party candidate to the White House. Wrong answer. A President can do only so much. Its our Congress Americans should be focusing on. Bush has expanded Presidential powers far beyond anything our Founding Father intended. A President cannot pass bills by himself nor can the President control Congress' purse strings. Too many Americans believe they are one President away from fiscal and civil nirvana. Disgusting. Americans need to STOP putting their faith in either of the corporate parties and their candidates and START supporting an independent voter platform, like this one I wrote: http://www.roncorvus.com/ivp.htm It shouldn't be about the candidate or party - it should be about the platform - the People's platform. Support your platform - not a Democratic or Republican candidate.
10.) Open Government: Currently, we have no open government; instead we have a government shrouded in secrecy and unbridled unaccountability. We The People MUST institute accountability, constitutionality and transparency in government; here's why and how;
http://www.roncorvus.com

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Thanks for the good read Mr. GG, (but it has a lot of words for a sheep to read,).

For #1 above I'd relate a quote about newspapers which is 100 times as true for the much more glamorous, persuasive, and entertaining TV:

"The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." -Thomas Jefferson


On the other points...a quote from Paul Craig Roberts, former Asst Secratary to the US Treasury:

February 18, 2008

A Government Devoid of Truth and Decency
What Do We Stand For?

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

http://counterpunch.org/roberts02182008.html

"Do we Americans have any honor, any humanity, any integrity, any awareness of the crimes our government is committing in our name? Do we have a moral conscience?

How can a moral conscience be reconciled with our continuing to tolerate our government which has invaded two countries on the basis of lies and deception, destroyed their civilian infrastructures and murdered hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children?

The killing and occupation continue even though we now know that the invasions were based on lies and fabricated "evidence." The entire world knows this. Yet, Americans continue to act as if the gratuitous invasions, the gratuitous killing, and the gratuitous destruction are justified. There is no end of it in sight."

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..."Others answer that a majority of Americans finally understand the evil that Bush has set loose and tried to stop him by voting out the Republicans in November 2006 and putting the Democrats in control of Congress--all to no effect--and are now demoralized as neither party gives a hoot for public opinion or has a moral conscience.

The people ask over and over, "What can we do?"
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It failed again when the Democrats refused to impeach Bush and Cheney.
Without the impeachment of Bush and Cheney, America can never recover. The precedents for unaccountable government established by the Bush administration are too great, their damage too lasting. Without impeachment, America will continue to sink into dictatorship in which criticism of the government and appeals to the Constitution are criminalized. We are closer to executive rule than many people know."



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FORMER CIA CHEIF KNOWS AND TELLS THE TRUTH
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You on a Sci-fi binge all of sudden Greeny? HAL and PKD, doesn't get any better than that! Well, you could throw in a little Dune too I guess!

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I am full of this terminology, America, to refer to the United States of America. America is such a vast mass of land, and I would risk to say the true America is a bit more south (as in the part where a minority of natives have actually mingled with the colonizers)... I guess that term America, meaning the US only, works for the European counterpart, as in contrasting the UK and Europe and its financial colony, the US...

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Gato Barbieri made that exact point at a concert I saw. It was a tour he did in the early 70,s he had an all South American band about 25 man band there is an album. Very good music. Half way through Gato stopped and introduced the band and talked about just what you posted. America is both continents and I wish we would work together more.

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I guess I'm talking about Pan-Amnerika...

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The Netherlands on 3 in the Democracy section? ? ?
How old is that thing?

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The Netherlands on 3 in the Democracy section? ? ?
How old is that thing?

http://dailybail.com/home/graphic-of-the-day-america-were-not-1.html

It is not in accordance to this, though:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index
Netherlands are in the 10th position according to this...

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Today is September 11

Today is Sunday.

Today, as any other day, is a day for reflection...

I never intended this thread to be an anti-US manifesto, and I can assure you that it is not. I had always marvelled and respected all good things of the US culture...

I grew in a world of polarized superpotencies and under heavy influence of US culture. I watched Walt Disney and Hanna & Barbera cartoons for most of my childhood, I have early learned to like hamburgers and to wear jeans and snickers.

Music [or that FM garbage oozing from the 80s on...] here is ridiculously US dictated. I ended up almost worshipping a rather obscure, non-mainstream US musician and composer (very critical of the US wrongdoings). A good one, at least*.

But since my childhood in the 80s (when we still had a military General as President here), I already heard of evil US influence in Brazil and Latin America (training Brazilian agents on techniques of torture and interrogation, economic influence not on best interest of Brazilian [still] very poor population and cultural assimilation as in the music, and so on**...).

What people in the US have to realize is that what the US does as foreign policies affect the lives of vasts amounts of people from dozens of different cultures and realities around the globe.

Now, that the govt spend all the US money fighting questionable wars and bailing out the rotten financial system, and that the party is over, and that the ordinary people will suffer the most, US citizens must awake and part of it is to demand an independent investigation for the events of this date! There is a desperate attempt to reorganize and shift the peaks of political power on the global map, and even though the US still is the biggest superpotency in the world, the scenario is changing. If the US breaks, the whole world will break... It lies in your hands to steer this country now...

For the memories of all who lost their lives as a direct or subsequent events unfold by the brutal and senseless attacks from 10 years ago, in the US and throughout the world.

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncbJT7i5rGo
special thanks, Maroual...

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Thanks for posting that Mr. GG...I think I'll just lay around on YouTube today and watch Frank.


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The American Dream - Full Length Animation Film (30min.)
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The Untold History of the United States (2012) by Oliver Stone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DxGzWenm20

World War II -- "Narrated by Oliver Stone, this new one-hour series features human events that at the time went under reported, but crucially shaped America's unique and complex history. The first chapter explores the birth of the American Empire by focusing on Franklin D. Roosevelt, Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin. Through examination of key decisions during World War II, discover unsung heroes such as American Henry Wallace and explore the demonization of the Soviets."

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"As of 2012, the United States has the world's largest prison population, with over 2 million people in American prisons or jails—up from 744,000 in 1985. China's prison population is about 1.6 million, while the prison population of India is 332,112." China's population = 7,116,900,000. US population = 316,836,000.

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A graph showing the incarceration rate per 100,000 population in the United States. The rapid rise in the rate of imprisonment in the U.S. is in response to the declaration of a War on Drugs: nearly half of those incarcerated in the U.S. are there because they violated drug prohibition laws

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Prisoners per 100,000 population

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate

Down here in South-Amnerika we have probably one of the most archaic, brutal and inhumane prison systems in the world, that works almost exclusively for the poor, though.

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