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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:16 am 
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I thought I start something useful (hopefully) in between all this Trendmonger shit:
A list (for completion and correction) of Zappa's bass players and the equipment they have been using. Since I am a bass player myself, I'm always interested in how the bass sound was created and worked in a given musical situation.

This is what comes to my memory at the moment without doing any further research:

    Roy Estrada:
    1966-1969, Fender Precision + some unkown half-acoustic model, amplification unknown
    1975/76: Fender Precision, amp unknown

    Max Bennett:
    1970, Fender Precision, amp unknown

    Jeff Simmons:
    1970, Fender Precision or Telecaster, amp unknown

    Martin Lickert:
    1971, Fender Jazzbass, amp unknown

    Jim Pons:
    1971, Fender Precision?, amp unknown

    Erroneous:
    1972, ?

    Dave Parlato:
    1972, Fender Jazzbass?, amp unknown

    Tom Fowler:
    1973, Fender Precision, Fender Jazzbass, amp unknown, 1974/75, Alembic, amp unknown

    James "Birdlegs" Youman:
    1974, ?

    Patrick O'Hearn:
    1976/77/78, Fender Precision fretless and fretted, amp unknown

    Arthur Barrow:
    1978/79, Gibson Grabber or Ripper, amp unknown,
    1980, Fender Jazzbass, amp unknown

    Scott Thunes:
    1981/82, Carvin bass, amp unknown,
    1984, Fender Precision + Fender Jazzbass (backup only), amp unknown, 1988, Fender Precision + unknown 5-string (probably fretless) + Minimoog

    FZ himself:
    1976, ?


Additional info for completing this list, anybody?
(Trendmonger, I suggest you stay away from this.)

Th.

P.S.: I didn't add Jack Bruce, Shuggy Otis and probably others to the list because I considered their contributions less significant (in quantity, of course)

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Mick Rogers

and

James "Bird Legs" Youman

who filled in for Tom Towler at the end of the 1974 tour. Don't know anything about their equipment.

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Since I was still able to edit I have just included Birdlegs into the above list.

But who is Mick (and) Rogers (da stehe ich gerade etwas auf dem Schlauch)?

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Sorry, Thinman. Das and ist beim Umstellen stehengeblieben. Heißt natürlich Mick Rogers. Rogers played a few concerts before he was replaced by Youman.

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Paul buff-buzz bass 8)

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FZ mentions here that he played a Hofner bass on "Friendly Little Finger" and "Down In De Dew."


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pbuzby wrote:
FZ mentions here that he played a Hofner bass on "Friendly Little Finger" and "Down In De Dew."


Yeah, that is the kind of info I was hoping for.

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This is pretty cool, perhaps we could start a series of these threads, it'd be great to know how FZ's various band members got their sound.

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My_Name_Is_Fritz wrote:
Sorry, Thinman. Das and ist beim Umstellen stehengeblieben. Heißt natürlich Mick Rogers. Rogers played a few concerts before he was replaced by Youman.

Michael Urso was a replacement for Tom Fowler, and he was subsequently replaced by Youman. Mick Rogers played one show earlier in the year (1974) during a different tour.

Shuggy Otis (son of Johnny Otis) played some bass on Hot Rats.

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This page has a photo of James Youmans onstage with FZ, although the bass is only partially visible.


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Tom Fowler interview: http://www.afka.net/Articles/2000-03_Tmershi_Duween.htm

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jimmie d killed the forum wrote:
My_Name_Is_Fritz wrote:
Sorry, Thinman. Das and ist beim Umstellen stehengeblieben. Heißt natürlich Mick Rogers. Rogers played a few concerts before he was replaced by Youman.

Michael Urso was a replacement for Tom Fowler, and he was subsequently replaced by Youman. Mick Rogers played one show earlier in the year (1974) during a different tour.[/i].


Thanks, my source was the first edition of Greg Russo's Cosmik Debris. He corrected it in the next edition.

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I'm thinking Thunes played Carvin amps early on before switching to Trace Elliot.


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pbuzby wrote:
This page has a photo of James Youmans onstage with FZ, although the bass is only partially visible.


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didn't o'hearn play an acoustic double bass on ocean is the ultimate solution ¿

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Gary Titone played bass on Sleep Dirt

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Help, I'm a Rock wrote:
Gary Titone played bass on Sleep Dirt


Oi! Read the topic title!

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...she pounced! :lol:


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well, he didn't mention his OTHER name, did he? :wink:

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Thinman wrote:
Scott Thunes:
1981/82, Carvin bass, amp unknown,
1984, Fender Precision + Fender Jazzbass (backup only), amp unknown, 1988, Fender Precision + unknown 5-string (probably fretless) + Minimoog

Thunes played Minimoog during the -82 and -84 tour aswell. And Barrow also played it during the spring -80 tour.


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Wow, Tom Fowler is a bit of a dildo.


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Quite the opposite, the interview with t fowler was very informative, I like him.

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Yo Cats

That sounds Double bass Or Minimoog

Some Prince track of purple rain sounds bassy around the same time with no bass played :wink:

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Yo Cats is apparently done entirely on Synclavier, save for Chad's drums.

Tom Fowler's interview is indeed quite informative, but he also is a bit arrogant. Especially during the comment where he disses Frank's computer music (calling it a sterile and pathetic shit) and a few other places. I think Jimmy Carl Black said he was an awful person to be in a band with, accusing him of the conspiracy to drive out all the original Mothers alumni from the Grandmothers.

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Anyone know the year on Arthur's Ripper?

(I only ask because my wife just approved my mostly un-wise purchase of a mint 1974 natural finish dream bass!!!)

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