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 Post subject: Re: RAY WHITE QUIT
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:43 am 
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Dweezil is a good guitar player , but he is not his dad on guitar, listening to his solos on shut up and play your guitar should convince anyone, Vai blows him (Dweezil) away (after all, Frank had Steve teach Dweezil!) That said, I enjoy seeing ZPZ, hopefully they will continue but at cheaper ticket prices.I for one will def. NOT pay what I have paid to see him with alumni.


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 Post subject: Re: RAY WHITE QUIT
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:07 am 
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his name is bob and we all know that
bob is not the illigitimate son of Michael JAckson
Billie Jean is not Mr bob.


I thought I saw Ray next to the Beefpies at Boney's market.

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FZ "Read It And Weep"
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We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.


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 Post subject: Re: RAY WHITE QUIT
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:26 am 
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Where's Trendmonger when you need him? He could have explained how this was just perfect timing and the natural way to further perfect perfection.

hey HJ
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:54 am 
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I guess the band CAN fit on the stage afterall. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: RAY WHITE QUIT
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The ZPZ European tour in may is at the same time that George Duke.
http://www.georgeduke.com/schedule.html
Maybe a jam ? :roll:


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I guess the band CAN fit on the stage afterall. :wink:

Good one!! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: RAY WHITE QUIT
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Just heard. Damn. I'm disappointed. For the second time in a couple of weeks. :cry:

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Trendmonger wrote:
HJ wrote:
Where's Trendmonger when you need him? He could have explained how this was just perfect timing and the natural way to further perfect perfection.


1) I attest
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in this troubling global situation.


Wow, what was long! Realley long Didn't you pay attention to what Gail told you last time? :D

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I have seen ZPZ 4 times and the when Ray joined the show he defiantly had a learning curve, that being said New Year’s show in SF and the March show in Sac were flawless vocally, but all members had a part in that. I have come to believe Sheila has stepped up and like a true Mother of Inventioned has performed so many essential parts of the music it would be a huge loss for her to leave. That being said the obvious choice to replace the lead would be Ike, I am not sure what keeps him away but it would benefit all, including the fans. The second choice should be the easiest, Napoleon, if he had a problem with half, he should be able to get it all now. Another choice that someone mentioned earlier in the string that made me laugh since I was thinking the same thing was Flo & Eddy, but I’m not sure if that would be a long term solution. One other possibility is Ahmet, before you laugh DZ and his brother used to have a variety show and Ahmet can sing and has a voice very similar to his Dad. The truly bigger problem is keyboards, simple answer Tommy Mars!


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I dont think Frank and ahmet has a similar voice, Frank voice is affected alot by smoke.

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Zut_boF wrote:
I dont think Frank and ahmet has a similar voice, Frank voice is affected alot by smoke.


and besides that, Ahmet is "retired" from music to work on his writing.

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flo and fuckin eddie!

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Zut_boF wrote:
I dont think Frank and ahmet has a similar voice, Frank voice is affected alot by smoke.


I think FZ's voice split between the boys. Ahmet has that sonore thing I could listen to for ages, and DZ occasionally made me rub my eyes out as similar as he sounds, but he's not near the singer FZ was.

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BBP is right the mixture of the 2 brothers might make a half way decent Frank, if Nap and Ike are off the table the only other answer is some new singer familiar with Franks music. I smell a new show either something like the "Rock Star" show or possibly "Zappa Idiol"!


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he also had his larynx smashed and his tonal range lowered after an accident in late 71.

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i am disappointed that i won't be seeing any special guests at the melbourne show, cos it would enhance the show so much
that being said, its still gonna be a friggin amazing show!
fingers crossed they miraculously pluck somebody out of nowhere to play on a song


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I'm liking the calls for Flo & Eddie. That would be a nice change, and a treat for the audience. They brought a wonderful craziness to the Zappa band. How great would it be to hear them do more material from that era, too.


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The voice is the most difficult sound to recreate.

I loved Napoleon doing the old songs he played with Frank and it was interesting to hear Ray playing his old stuff.
It would be ok for me to get another special guest like Ike Willis or Mike Keneally, but to be honest, I would prefer to see Napoleon come back. I love his very special voice and strong stage presence.


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So, they lost Aaron and decided to tour without a keyboard player for budget considerations....and people think they're going to hire someone more expensive?

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Whatever happened to Bobby Martin?

Also, my personal obsession... Denny Walley... that would be tastey.


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:roll: Flo and Eddie :mrgreen:

8) George Duke :o

:twisted: IKE IKE IKE !!!


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 Post subject: Re: RAY WHITE QUIT
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Hometown Sausage Jamboree wrote:
Whatever happened to Bobby Martin?

Also, my personal obsession... Denny Walley... that would be tastey.


You can see (and listen to) both of them...and more at Zappanale #20, Bad Doberan, Germany, 2009 08 12-16.


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 Post subject: Re: RAY WHITE QUIT
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That's quite a line-up.
I've seen both Acid Mother and Gong's Gilli Smith on different occasions and they put on great performances. I had an opportunity to chat with Gilli after her show and she was very sweet. During our conversation I asked her about Kevin Ayers and if he was performing and recording again. She said he was still living in Spain, had stopped drinking too much and had started playing live again.


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 Post subject: Re: RAY WHITE QUIT
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Hometown Sausage Jamboree wrote:
Whatever happened to Bobby Martin?

Still in shape: http://swordofcreation.com/rm/

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