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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:11 pm 
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Wow, this dedication! And I tough I was crazy because I have 4 or 5 versions of this album! :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:46 pm 
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hey, zurkon, can you list out all the different versions of CR that's in that picture?

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Uncle Meat, the cover
Uncle Meat the music
Uncle Meat the double LP
Uncle Meat the CD without the dialogue
Uncle Meat the Uncle.....the answer is Uncle Meat.

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manichispanic wrote:
hey, zurkon, can you list out all the different versions of CR that's in that picture?


1970. Chunga's Revenge
USA Bizarre MS-2030 Vinyl
USA Bizarre MS-2030 Promo Sticker Vinyl
USA Bizarre MS-2030 Promo Vinyl
USA Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
USA Barking Pumpkin BPR 8888-5 OMB 2 Vinyl
USA Ryko RCD 10164 CD
USA Ryko RCD 10164 L Card CD
USA Reprise M8 2030 8Track
USA Reprise M 82030 8Track
JAP Reprise P-8045R Vinyl
JAP Reprise P-8045R Promo Vinyl
JAP Reprise P-8045R Rock Age Promo Vinyl
JAP Ryko VACK 5255 CD
JAP Ryko VACK 1212 Mini lp Promo CD
JAP Ryko VACK 1212 Rock Age Promo CD
JAP Ryko VACK 1212 Mini lp Promo Green Cover CD
JAP Ryko VACK 1333 Mini lp CD
FR Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
FR Reprise 44020 Vinyl
FR Reprise 44020 B Vinyl
FR Zappa Records CDZAP 23 CD
FR Zappa Records CDZAP 23 CD
UK Reprise RSLP-2030 Green Cover Vinyl
UK Reprise RSLP-2030 Red Cover Vinyl
UK Reprise K 44020 Restickerd Vinyl
UK Reprise K 44020 Vinyl
GER Reprise RS-2030 Vinyl
GER Reprise 44020 Vinyl
GER Reprise 44020 (Z) Vinyl
GER Reprise 44020 (Z) Diff Label Vinyl
ITA Bizarre MS-2030 Vinyl
ITA Warner Brothers W 44020 Vinyl
ITA Warner Brothers W 44020 Vinyl
ITA Reprise BZ8 2030 8Track
CAN Reprise MS-2030 FOC Vinyl
CAN Reprise MS-2030 Non FOC Vinyl
ARG Reprise 12-976 Mono Vinyl
ARG Reprise 112-976 Vinyl
AUS Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
AUS Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
GRE Reprise RS 0353 Vinyl
GRE Reprise 44020 Vinyl
CHI Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
POR Reprise LP-S 68 14 Vinyl
NZ Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
VEN Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
ESP Reprise HRES 291-40 Vinyl
MEX Gamma GX 01-425 Vinyl
RSA Reprise RRD 11707 Double Dynamite Vinyl
EU Ryko RCD 10511 CD
RUS ???? GP-SSR 000151 Counterfeit CD
THAI Ryko RC 10164 Cass
IND IMD 6651 Counterfeit Cass

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Zurkon_Wax wrote:
manichispanic wrote:
hey, zurkon, can you list out all the different versions of CR that's in that picture?


1970. Chunga's Revenge
USA Bizarre MS-2030 Vinyl
USA Bizarre MS-2030 Promo Sticker Vinyl
USA Bizarre MS-2030 Promo Vinyl
USA Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
USA Barking Pumpkin BPR 8888-5 OMB 2 Vinyl
USA Ryko RCD 10164 CD
USA Ryko RCD 10164 L Card CD
USA Reprise M8 2030 8Track
USA Reprise M 82030 8Track
JAP Reprise P-8045R Vinyl
JAP Reprise P-8045R Promo Vinyl
JAP Reprise P-8045R Rock Age Promo Vinyl
JAP Ryko VACK 5255 CD
JAP Ryko VACK 1212 Mini lp Promo CD
JAP Ryko VACK 1212 Rock Age Promo CD
JAP Ryko VACK 1212 Mini lp Promo Green Cover CD
JAP Ryko VACK 1333 Mini lp CD
FR Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
FR Reprise 44020 Vinyl
FR Reprise 44020 B Vinyl
FR Zappa Records CDZAP 23 CD
FR Zappa Records CDZAP 23 CD
UK Reprise RSLP-2030 Green Cover Vinyl
UK Reprise RSLP-2030 Red Cover Vinyl
UK Reprise K 44020 Restickerd Vinyl
UK Reprise K 44020 Vinyl
GER Reprise RS-2030 Vinyl
GER Reprise 44020 Vinyl
GER Reprise 44020 (Z) Vinyl
GER Reprise 44020 (Z) Diff Label Vinyl
ITA Bizarre MS-2030 Vinyl
ITA Warner Brothers W 44020 Vinyl
ITA Warner Brothers W 44020 Vinyl
ITA Reprise BZ8 2030 8Track
CAN Reprise MS-2030 FOC Vinyl
CAN Reprise MS-2030 Non FOC Vinyl
ARG Reprise 12-976 Mono Vinyl
ARG Reprise 112-976 Vinyl
AUS Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
AUS Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
GRE Reprise RS 0353 Vinyl
GRE Reprise 44020 Vinyl
CHI Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
POR Reprise LP-S 68 14 Vinyl
NZ Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
VEN Reprise MS-2030 Vinyl
ESP Reprise HRES 291-40 Vinyl
MEX Gamma GX 01-425 Vinyl
RSA Reprise RRD 11707 Double Dynamite Vinyl
EU Ryko RCD 10511 CD
RUS ???? GP-SSR 000151 Counterfeit CD
THAI Ryko RC 10164 Cass
IND IMD 6651 Counterfeit Cass


I am truly humbled. Amazing! Bravissimo.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:19 am 
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Zurkon, What exactly is your Avatar? Is it a 45 rpm?

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Always wondered if the similarity was intentional :?

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thenoisydrum wrote:
Zurkon, What exactly is your Avatar? Is it a 45 rpm?


Yes It's a Dutch single from 1966
Here is a better picture of it
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:26 am 
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Zurkon_Wax wrote:
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Zurkon, What exactly is your Avatar? Is it a 45 rpm?


Yes It's a Dutch single from 1966
Here is a better picture of it
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I really want that........ :cry:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:48 am 
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you like the sleep dirt album cover??!!! its not Zappa approved! :mrgreen: :wink:

Yes, but he also used all of these covers by Gary Panter then for the CD-releases (which means for the remaining time of the rest of the universe), so i think, he felt OK with them 8)

Gary Panter is great, and I know I've read an interview with Frank where he said he didn't mind the covers as such. (Although I also remember him calling them really ugly in an interview on Norwegian radio in 1979...)

You have to admit that the Panter albums are pretty consistent with Zappa's design profile in general, or at least one aspect of it.

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I like Waka/Jawaka and the Neon Park Weasels, but the other three are silly.

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I dislike The Man From Utopia cover myself, but personal taste wasn't my point here. I just wanted to show that the Panter albums are consistent with Zappa's design profile. Plus, I've never understood why people like the Waka/Jawaka cover for example, and not Sleep Dirt or Studio Tan.

And it's an objective fact that Gary Panter is a major comics artist and illustrator.

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Oh, by the way... Gary Panter was also fucked by Warner Brothers in this matter, just like Zappa. He was asked to do the covers and didn't smell the fish until it was too late. So it's stupid to blame him for the rotten deal.

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I liked the panter-covers for years and didn't know that they weren't approved by FZ (till I finally got connected to the web). All those years and still today I considered them truly zappaesque and being a part of those 3 albums, like all the other great covers are part of their albums:
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...I just wanted to show that the Panter albums are consistent with Zappa's design profile...

This is an interesting introduction into Gary Panter: http://www.paulgravett.com/index.php/articles/article/gary_panter/
As far as I know, Panter only did sleep dirt, studio tan and orchestral favs. Utopia (I love that also) was done by the italian artist who also does Rank Xerox comics (can t remember the name and am too lazy now to find out). Waka and weasel are much older, maybe they were designed by Cal Schenkel (?) but surely not by Panter.
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ursinator wrote:
This is an interesting introduction into Gary Panter: http://www.paulgravett.com/index.php/articles/article/gary_panter/
As far as I know, Panter only did sleep dirt, studio tan and orchestral favs. Utopia (I love that also) was done by the italian artist who also does Rank Xerox comics (can t remember the name and am too lazy now to find out). Waka and weasel are much older, maybe they were designed by Cal Schenkel (?) but surely not by Panter.
8)

That's a great link, ursinator! Panter clearly mastered his part of the job, whilst WB botched up the albums in every way. But imagine a legitimate Studio Tan with Panter's drawing as a gatefold cover, with interior design by Cal Schenkel and the lyrics for Greggery Peccary plus details about musicians etc... Nice...

Waka/Jawaka was designed by Marvin Mattelson (drawing) and Schenkel, Weasels by Neon Park and John Williams.

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... But imagine a legitimate Studio Tan with Panter's drawing as a gatefold cover, with interior design by Cal Schenkel and the lyrics for Greggery Peccary plus details about musicians etc... Nice...

Why not allowing Panter himself to expand his earlier work? Like Schenkel suddenly reappeared in the Zappaworld and did some stunning work again, I think Panter could do so also (or is he dead meanwhile? I hope not!). Maybe this could be a suggestion in general, to invite the artists, who did the classical covers in Zappas lifetime (and who are still alive), to do the artwork for some new releases. It could help the conceptional continuity. And it could result in some more exciting covers.
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Has anyone information about this cover/digipack? Is it approved by FZ or was it done after his death? (Same question about trance fusion) :?

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I would imagine that FZ did have input into CIII - I would bet the farm that he would not have approved Trance-Fuusion

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...I would bet the farm that he would not have approved Trance-Fuusion
Me too, even I don't own a farm. When I saw it first time on ebay and read the title, I was afraid, some techno-guy finally would have transformed FZ into BOOM BOOM BOOM... It was really a salvation to find out, that it was not.

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It just wouldn't have been a FZ concept - he wouldn't have hated it, but he wouldn't have used it either.

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ursinator wrote:
Has anyone information about this cover/digipack? Is it approved by FZ or was it done after his death?

interview with the designer; uri balashov:
:arrow: .civilization phaze iii cover

ursinator wrote:
(Same question about trance fusion)

:arrow: .eric white

designed long after zappa's death, obviously.

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ursinator wrote:
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... But imagine a legitimate Studio Tan with Panter's drawing as a gatefold cover, with interior design by Cal Schenkel and the lyrics for Greggery Peccary plus details about musicians etc... Nice...

Why not allowing Panter himself to expand his earlier work? Like Schenkel suddenly reappeared in the Zappaworld and did some stunning work again, I think Panter could do so also (or is he dead meanwhile? I hope not!). Maybe this could be a suggestion in general, to invite the artists, who did the classical covers in Zappas lifetime (and who are still alive), to do the artwork for some new releases. It could help the conceptional continuity. And it could result in some more exciting covers.

I just passed on a pipe-dream, or schnaps-idee, really. The inspiration was the missing details on those covers, and also the LP cover of Overnite Sensation.

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I like the contrast between the two drawing styles there (McMacken on the outside and Schenkel on the inside), and thought that would have fit the Panter covers also.

Your other idea is fantastic, but I doubt that we'll see new Panter artwork on Zappa in Gail's reign...

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Dark, I didn t know that overnite cover was a collaboration. Now I know what you mean. 8)
Lumpy, thanks for the Balashov-link. I found a lot of answers for questions I had for years according to CP3. Reading this was like having a really good meal! 8)

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