brainpang wrote:
Batchain1001 wrote:
brainpang wrote:
Even as a little kid, I was never impressed by the hippies. They looked filthy and I thought they were just 'pretending.' No wonder I embraced FZ later in life. I was in the Haight Asbury as a tourist in the Summer of Love. I was 4 years old and I remember my father snapping pictures of the animals in the zoo. A few years later while in the first grade at parochial school, the hippies hung around the local park across from the church. I was proud of my school uniform and felt superior to the smelly humans. Right abut that time, Charles Manson made headlines, and that's all she wrote. Manson, to a kid my age, was the ultimate hippie.
Somehow I never made any connection between Charles Manson & Co. and "hippies". I just though Manson was a crazy psychotic and his long hair and bushy beard was pure coincidence. Of course just after his arrest he did shave his head and carve a swastika on his forehead which looked very "un-hippie-like".
Of course there were all those years in during which "hippie" was completely gone from all serious usage and very
suddenly started to get used again, presumably to describe some
particular kind of people in some definitive way. Hearing it used by FZ in 1980 when I
finally got hold of FZ's '77 release, "Zappa In New York" on "Honey, Don'tcha Want A Man Like Me?" sounded very funny if not dated or as if he was using it jokingly on a song that was humorous anyway. It was about on the same order as "beatnik".
--Batchain
he he. The line in the song is "she saw a REAL hippie." Meaning, them throwbacks wuz still around in '76. So, yea, yr right, it is sorta 'beatnik' like, as Frank intended, I'd say. But the problem here is, Zappa was considered to be a hippie himself. He had long hair and made his name in the 60's. That equals hippie to most. I'm not getting technical here. Maynard G. Krebbs = beatnik, right?
Anyway, no hippie connection to Manson!? Are you in denial!? Or maybe didn't go to Catholic school, where we would obsess over these things.
Blessed Sisters of the Order of the Holy Snatch! For over a year I went to Cath-o-lic school and they made me pay through the nose and out the asshole before tossing me out of confines of their sanctified school! Why, even Fr. Sullivan didn't want to fuck me or put that wretched sausage in my mouth a first time!
As best as I remember it all that "hippie" shit was used to sell magazines, newspapers and TV shows. I remember seeing
The Mamas and Papas on TV and hearing what "hippies" they were -- but they weren't a marauding bunch of murderers from the mountains!
I even saw an article on the "long-forgotten beatniks of yesteryear" in either "Life" or "Look" magazine and there were photos of "beatniks" and one of them had this guy in it with long, past-the-shoulders hair and thin-lensed miners glasses who looked more like a
John Lennon-in-the-early-'70s look-alike than anything I had heard about "beatniks in the '50s commonly sporting goatees".
No, wild-eyed "Charlie" in his most famous photograph still didn't connect "hippies" with psychotic killers.
But there never
was a "drug-crazed youth movement" in any year!
Just take the entire US population during its most hippie-populated year and compare those 15 to 30 years of age who were ordinary, unremarkable
anybodies and you're up to around 99% of the population. The mock-hippie fashions were put out by the clothing industry because they were in a business that sold clothes for profit and changing stuff around as fast as they can is in that industry's best financial interests. It's just pure cash!
Of course today it's crazy because the
tech industry is changing faster than the clothing industry and people even camped out in front of tech retail stores the night before the first day "iPhones" became available. The last time I saw anything like that was August 24, 1995 when "Windows 95" became available. Just 12 years and 6 days ago!
Oops! Sorry to jump from Timothy Leary to Bill Gates so abruptly but you can see where I'm heading with this slightly freewheeling post.
--Bat
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