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To be pedantic, if he is convicted then he will have been found guilty. He may not have done anything.

Agreed and I stand corrected. I tend not to want to judge others when the legal system is there for that purpose. Regardless of society's general distaste for child endangerment of any sort (and revulsion is a legitimate reaction) we have a judiciary system to address criminal behavior, and maybe there is exculpatory evidence in Roy's case...I do not know.

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Regardless.
He looks guilty.
Give him The Chair.

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"Father, I have a confession to make...." -- "What? Yer 13? Love your nails."

Fair enough. I guess it's just that after seeing Baby Snakes 50 million times and then adding Roy's seemingly repeated problems relating to child/sexual abuse that it's really not that funny anymore.

It's always been embarassing because it's just not very good filmmaking (unlike some other parts of Baby Snakes). Now it's even more embarassing because it feels so eh... DOCUMENTARY...

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This, but maybe a little more politely put.

I get out plenty. It is the context that is disturbing. Sorry you cannot understand that. (And I have never found it funny or interesting in the first place; nothing to do with being a baby; it's just a matter of taste.)

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Which 60s? 1760s because it was not 1860s or 1960s.

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Arf you out of your fucking mind.

I watched the 1982 POLTERGEIST flick with my son yesterday and there were a couple non-2011-PC moments in the film. One, the adult construction workers building the backyard pool started oogling and commenting upon the high schooler as she traipsed off to school,,,Mom just kind of laughed it off as a normal occurance. Later, the daughter reveals that she spent some time at the Holiday Inn on the highway. So sweet for a Spielberg (and Tobe Hooper) family flick. Not only is it okay that older guys have the hots for her, she's sexually active, too.

Your enjoyment of a squeaky clean 80s film is getting in the way of The Roy Estrada sexual assualt thread.

Wonder what Polanski is doing these days. Not time in prison, that's for sure.

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Roy should have used more restraint like Mr. Gary Puckett.

http://youtu.be/hn0ZJHVH17I

Chinga Chavin wasn't as fortunate apparently.

http://youtu.be/gf1tXmaQb3k

Did Gary Glitter ever go to Florida with his family?
Did he go to Tampa with the kids?

How about ripping out his crazy beard with a wood lathe?
He deserves no less.

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What is really disturbing to me is the fact that there is such a thing as a rubber doll, it tells a lot about our society, plastic peoples came true.
I'm sad for the poor Roy and I don't think prison or death penalty has ever made anyone better.
Don't throw the stone...

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The important thing here is to keep paedo's off the streets, and away from children.
Prison, a mental hospital, the Chair, I don't care so long as children are protected.

What about care and education?

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Sure.
Do you really need someone to tell you that it's not alright to rape children.

He's a 60 year old man if he didn't figure it out yet it ain't going to happen, that dog ain't learn'in no new tricks...

Pedophiles can't be fixed. Rehab doesn't work for these folks. Now does Roy have a thing for 16 yr. old girls or 10 year old girls (or boys). Is there a difference? Probably, but at this point does it really matter? A 68 year old man with priors. There is a very disturbing pattern here for our favorite Mothers bassist. For you folks who want to proclaim Roy's innocence at his point. Blogger, Please!

Over here there is - 16 is legal, and there are LOTS of young women who have had no real father figure, who will do ANYTHING, I said ANYTHING, for a bit of male attention. (I don't condone, but legal is legal - I think it should be 18)

You've brought up another issue here.
If you're saying you don't believe a 16 year old can make a rational decision to have sex with someone (maybe even a 68 year old for all we know) - you're lying to your (younger) self as well as the rest of the world. What's wrong with you, when did you become so repressed?

Ok everyone get over the 16 thing, the charge was related to a child under 14, what the f#ck is wrong with you people...I don't care how modern or unrepressed you are,that shit is wrong!

A 16 year old making a rational decision to have sex with a 68 year old? A 68 year old making a rational decision to have sex with a 16 year old? Even if that's legal in some parts of the world and even taking the "Daddy Complex" into consideration, it's still creepy any way you slice it.