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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:03 am 
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... [Ben Watson Poodle Play] ...
I read that years ago, this guy is awesome... :smoke:
After hearing all kinds of stuff - negative, positive and otherwise - said about this guy, I saw him on a video and just hearing him speaking plainly I was impressed with what he said. I need to buy this at some stage.


The best part about it is the chapter where he describes visiting FZ. The Zappas tell him they were very entertained by the chapters and made him read several ou them out loud for FZ. It's... how serious you should take the book.

And don't worry, I did know it was a joke with that book upside-down, which is why I joked back you should hold it the right way up. I'm impressed by her characters as well: most importantly she makes everybody look human.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:22 am 
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'Poodle Play' is required reading...unfortunately a lot of it is almost impossible to understand... I still don't understand the Adorno references etc but as MrGG suggests, the fact that BW spent time with an ailing FZ who was by all accounts entertained by him, I think gives the book some curiosity value. BW certainly has a unique perspective on all things Zappa.


My latest reads:

'Does this noise in my head bother you?' - Steve Tyler
He goes on about drugs endlessly, and about all the chicks he's had. Without the wit of Keef's book.

'Sicilian Carousel' - Lawrence Durrell
One of his later books. Good, if you like Durrell (I do-probably my favourite literary-type author).


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:27 am 
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'Poodle Play' is required reading...unfortunately a lot of it is almost impossible to understand... I still don't understand the Adorno references etc {...}


I'll forgive you for that: Theodor Adorno is about the least readable music philosopher I've read, and that beats Dahlhaus.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:00 pm 
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Quilt wrote:
'Poodle Play' is required reading...unfortunately a lot of it is almost impossible to understand... I still don't understand the Adorno references etc but as MrGG suggests, the fact that BW spent time with an ailing FZ who was by all accounts entertained by him, I think gives the book some curiosity value. BW certainly has a unique perspective on all things Zappa.


My latest reads:

'Does this noise in my head bother you?' - Steve Tyler
He goes on about drugs endlessly, and about all the chicks he's had. Without the wit of Keef's book.


'Sicilian Carousel' - Lawrence Durrell
One of his later books. Good, if you like Durrell (I do-probably my favourite literary-type author).


Have you tried Walk This Way about the whole band? I found that one a great read.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:18 am 
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Quilt wrote:
'Poodle Play' is required reading...unfortunately a lot of it is almost impossible to understand... I still don't understand the Adorno references etc but as MrGG suggests, the fact that BW spent time with an ailing FZ who was by all accounts entertained by him, I think gives the book some curiosity value. BW certainly has a unique perspective on all things Zappa.


My latest reads:

'Does this noise in my head bother you?' - Steve Tyler
He goes on about drugs endlessly, and about all the chicks he's had. Without the wit of Keef's book.


'Sicilian Carousel' - Lawrence Durrell
One of his later books. Good, if you like Durrell (I do-probably my favourite literary-type author).


Have you tried Walk This Way about the whole band? I found that one a great read.


I'd like to-what period does it cover?
Lots of Tyler's book paints the picture of Tyler being the essential genius and the glue that holds Aerosmith together, with everyone else's contributions only given scant recognition. He bangs on about 'Dream On' as if it was the best song ever written, by anyone. He seems surprised when, during his months long drug binges, the others (particularly Joe) don't want to have anything to do with him etc etc

It's a shame. He is talented, and Aerosmith are the best American example of that kind of music, but his ego knows no bounds.
The book needed an editor/ghost writer that could draw out the stuff that people would be more interested in, that could give some real insight into the band.

Alas!


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Michael Palin's "Python Diaries" - like most diaries, they're quite interesting in a boring kind of way.

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Quilt wrote:
'Sicilian Carousel' - Lawrence Durrell
One of his later books. Good, if you like Durrell (I do-probably my favourite literary-type author).


I've never read any of his books but I've read just about everything his brother Gerald wrote. Very different I'd assume but very entertaining. For the likes of meself anyway.

I'm halfway through 'For Us, The Living', a posthumous release of some of Robert Heinleins' earlier stuff.
And I just started 'Exit Lines' by Reginald Hill - British crime fiction.

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Here Comes Everybody

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Both this and 'Anansi Boys' were most excellent.

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Quilt wrote:
calvin2hikers wrote:
Quilt wrote:
'Poodle Play' is required reading...unfortunately a lot of it is almost impossible to understand... I still don't understand the Adorno references etc but as MrGG suggests, the fact that BW spent time with an ailing FZ who was by all accounts entertained by him, I think gives the book some curiosity value. BW certainly has a unique perspective on all things Zappa.


My latest reads:

'Does this noise in my head bother you?' - Steve Tyler
He goes on about drugs endlessly, and about all the chicks he's had. Without the wit of Keef's book.


'Sicilian Carousel' - Lawrence Durrell
One of his later books. Good, if you like Durrell (I do-probably my favourite literary-type author).


Have you tried Walk This Way about the whole band? I found that one a great read.


I'd like to-what period does it cover?
Lots of Tyler's book paints the picture of Tyler being the essential genius and the glue that holds Aerosmith together, with everyone else's contributions only given scant recognition. He bangs on about 'Dream On' as if it was the best song ever written, by anyone. He seems surprised when, during his months long drug binges, the others (particularly Joe) don't want to have anything to do with him etc etc

It's a shame. He is talented, and Aerosmith are the best American example of that kind of music, but his ego knows no bounds.
The book needed an editor/ghost writer that could draw out the stuff that people would be more interested in, that could give some real insight into the band.

Alas!


Mostly everything. Their early lives, the formation of Aerosmith, and the group through just a little after Nine Lives was released. From what you're saying about Tyler's book, Walk This Way is much better. It's an oral history with input from all the band members, girlfriends, producers, managers and so on.

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Well thanks, but if you have something to say I don't know why you can't say it. It won't change my opinion.

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Hah! My bro's fave book - I could never quite get into it (my fault, not Hunter's). LOVE the illustrations tho'.


Just finished "Hitler's First War", by Thomas Weber. A good read and explains well how to get the Iron Cross without being particularly heroic...
http://www.amazon.de/Hitlers-First-Adol ... 0199233209

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'The Animal Factory' - Ed Bunker.

'Solipsist' - Rollins. Fuck me, he's miserable. Unrelentingly so.
I need some porn to cheer myself up after this one.


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Try some T. C. Boyle.


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'1974 Red Riding' - David Peace

A noirish thriller set in West Yorkshire in the seventies-the first of a quartet.
Echoes of all the miserable shite I remember from my childhood in that part of the world.


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Aldous Huxley, "Brave New World."

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Aldous Huxley, "Brave New World."

I was just watching this:
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Sounds like an interesting read - is it?

I once read that the first settlers who came to America did not pack very well. One of them brought a multi-volume history of the Ottoman Empire with him.

Jumping from book to book at the moment - stuck into Jodl's cross-examination at the Nuremberg Trials (from the transcripts) at the moment; one of the few members of that regime that possibly could have got a lighter sentence.

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Sounds like an interesting read - is it?

I once read that the first settlers who came to America did not pack very well. One of them brought a multi-volume history of the Ottoman Empire with him.

Jumping from book to book at the moment - stuck into Jodl's cross-examination at the Nuremberg Trials (from the transcripts) at the moment; one of the few members of that regime that possibly could have got a lighter sentence.


I'm interested in many different events in history and this was one that I knew little about.
Only still at the beginning but it's been great so far. Very well researched and excellently written. It's gonna be a blast! I like the fact the author referred to kangaroo excrement as kangaroo turd - nice.

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Oh, my bad. I foolishly thought it was about America - I should have examined the cover more closely. Still sounds interesting, though.

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