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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:17 am 
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Speaking of Mike Oldfield: I recently revisted Tubular Bells and Hergest Ridge for the first time after nearly 40 years. I had given the vinyl records away a long time ago. My latest interest in those albums came from a review about a Tubular Bells remake because Mike Oldfield wanted to get rid of all those mistakes and imperfections of the original. I never heard the remake(s) but wanted to check out the original once again and found a cheap twofer CD with the most recent remasters of the original Tubular Bells and Hergest Ridge (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Mike-Oldfield-Tubular-Bells-Hergest-Ridge/hnum/1476816)

IMO the mistakes and imperfections are essential for the charme of those albums. All those nasty notes and rumbling rhythms are mistakes? I never thought so! Those originals are the definite versions.

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IMO the mistakes and imperfections are essential for the charme of those albums. All those nasty notes and rumbling rhythms are mistakes? I never thought so! Those originals are the definite versions.

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Who else does that remind you of?

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Ah- I've read about this one but never heard it. As a massive Peter Cook fan and a bit lukewarm on Godley and Creme - is it really worth it for me?

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Ah- I've read about this one but never heard it. As a massive Peter Cook fan and a bit lukewarm on Godley and Creme - is it really worth it for me?



Someone posted the whole abum on You Tube so you can preview it there.


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couple albums that come to mind i used to enjoy.
Stomu Yamashta floating worlds
John Abercrombie timeless (very mahavishnuesque at times)
anything by national health

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Ah- I've read about this one but never heard it. As a massive Peter Cook fan and a bit lukewarm on Godley and Creme - is it really worth it for me?


I think so ... however, this is a cryptic, weird, off the wall and strange as anything else, and to catch Peter just rambling on, makes you wonder if this is art for art's sakes, and not because these folks ahd something to say or do.

It is a collector's item, simply because of its complete and total disdain for rock and commercial music, and total devotion to something else, regardless of what it is ... I would almost call this a thinking man's Frank Zappa at 300 1/2 Motels and Woodstock!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:39 am 
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Hi,

There are a lot of albums that deserve the mention ... that do not get the chance to be heard because of the commercial top ten thing that makes most people think that is the only good music and the rest is not as good.

A small list:

Egberto Gismonti - No Caipira
Terje Rypdal/David Darling - Eos
Jan Garbarek - Eventyr
Amon Duul 2 - Wolf City
Can - Future Days
Ange - Au Dela Du Delire
Banco del Muttuo Soccorso - First
Carmen - Fandangos in Space
Gryphon - Midnight Mushrumps
Caravan - For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night
Djam Karet - Reflections from the Firepool
Gong - You
Soft Machine - Third
Camel - The Snow Goose
Kevin Ayers - The Confessions of Dr. Dream
Spirit - The Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus

It's an endless list ... music that has not and will never be on radio (excpe once in a blue decade, Nature's Way by Spirit) ... that shows the human spirit and then some ... but folks are too indoctrinated by the commercial and social conditioning with "top ten" that for them to even give a listen to something else ... is a scary proposition, and only someone with the anti-establisment sentiment like Frank Zappa will get their attention for a while. Even worse, is that the majority of folks can not listen to something that is more than 3 or 4 or 5 minutes long ... or a an old friend of mine said after 1 minute of Ozric Tentacles ... where's the lyrics?

In Europe, specially, there is a lot more respect for the artistry behind a lot of these things, and that should be a clue for all folks here for the appreciation of a lot of Frank's music ... and him getting requests for classical work, that he would never do in America, and on top of it will never play his music, since Boston Pops will NEVER consider Frank's music ... !!!


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The Insect Trust - self titled first album
The Insect Trust - Hoboken Saturday Night
Ry Cooder - first album
The Fourth Way - Werewolf
The Fourth Way - The Sun and The Moon. . .
Mary Margaret O'Hara - Miss America
Michael Hurley - Long Journey (all his albums,actually)


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a lot of folks (crimheads included) give this album negative reviews, but i consider it a tour de force, one of my favorite crimson albums.

heard through from start to finish, i find it's impact to be devastating. in a good way.

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"couple albums that come to mind i used to enjoy.
Stomu Yamashta floating worlds
John Abercrombie timeless (very mahavishnuesque at times)
anything by national health"

I also love everything here!!
I have much of it all!


How's about:

POPUL VUE - Nosferatu
BRIAN ENO/DAVID BYRNE - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts
STOMU YAMASHTA - Freedom is Frightening
anything from DEAD CAN DANCE

has anyone heard any KEN NORDINE?


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Ah- I've read about this one but never heard it. As a massive Peter Cook fan and a bit lukewarm on Godley and Creme - is it really worth it for me?


I think so ... however, this is a cryptic, weird, off the wall and strange as anything else, and to catch Peter just rambling on, makes you wonder if this is art for art's sakes, and not because these folks ahd something to say or do.

It is a collector's item, simply because of its complete and total disdain for rock and commercial music, and total devotion to something else, regardless of what it is ... I would almost call this a thinking man's Frank Zappa at 300 1/2 Motels and Woodstock!


I always loved Cook's response to criticism of the album. According to Harry Thompson:

"[A]t the LP's launch in Amsterdam, where the pair [Godley and Creme] were greeted cynically by Dutch Journalists, he [Cook] interrupted one hostile questioner by asking him what he did with his time. 'I do nothing,' replied the Dutchman. 'Well fuck off home and do it,' said Peter angrily."

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a lot of folks (crimheads included) give this album negative reviews, but i consider it a tour de force, one of my favorite crimson albums.

heard through from start to finish, i find it's impact to be devastating. in a good way.


I like that one! I prefer it to Thrak, actually...

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John Adams - Light over water:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbHlbbtcEJU

beat THAT!

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ANYTHING by ELLIOT CARTER


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How long have you got? Way too many to list!

This, though.

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has anyone heard any KEN NORDINE?


Yes. I only have Colors, but it's great.


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Best fuckin' album in ages!!

JOHN ZORN -- Satyr's Play / Cerberus


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i second that, and add acquiring the taste, three friends, octopus, in a glass house, and freehand.

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