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I really want to purchase this Set. Can anybody tell me about the sound quality and the set itself. Thanks in advance.

It's mono, and the quality of the sound is very good.

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the set features massive amounts of slaughter and bloodshed.

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Wrong again like you are when you are, like all the time!
This is what you get when you try to order it! Oh, wait, maybe yer right...

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It is one of my favorite ZFT releases, a wonderful King Kong, a rocked-out Who are the Brain Police? And a 40 -minute Billy the Mountain. Get this one.

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the sound quality isnt awful but very tinny and its quite difficult to make out the bass at times, nowhere near the sound quality on playground psychotics or the stuff off the 'stage series. the music is very good however. its my favorite ZFT release as well.

Yup, it's a good one. The alternate Billy The Mountain is a must have, and the Persuasions set on disc one was a really nice touch.

I've said it all before - but here it is in brief

The Persuasions set - I love it (others will not, no doubt - but refer to "From Straight to Bizarre" for a persuasive theory as to why they're important in the context of Zappa's Universe)

The main event:-

Good points
Amusing "anti (?) New York" adlibs during Magdalena and Call Any...
Another fun intro to Any Way The...
Who Are The Brain Police with odd drawn-out ending
Official releases of "Eternity Itself" version of King Kong and "Subcutaneous" version of PFAB
Billy The Mountain with drum solo (and a nice long solo from Ian)
Billy The Mountain also has memory test routine

Bad points
Mark Volman's voice is below-par throughout (raw throated and occasionally out of tune)
Sharleena (fast version) - duller than usual (!)
Divan suite - disappointing lack of adlib humour esp. when compared to either Swiss Cheese Fire or bootlegged Pauley Pavillion version
THE ASKING PRICE - and they wonder why P2P is so popular?!

Odd point
No sign of the fabled "Nigey Lennon reference"

I always loved the Stonybrook show from a couple days later. When held up to those standards, I was disappointed with Carnegie Hall. It's a much looser performance, and as someone pointed out, Mark Volman is off his game. (A little drunk, possibly?)

But the sound quality is surprisingly good for a mono audience recording. Some instruments are indistinct, but the vocals are very clear and have an almost soundboard-like quality to them.

Plus it's nice to have two *complete* sets from this band in any kind of listenable quality. There are quite a few bootlegs from 1971 but the majority of them are poor, and the good ones are all incomplete in some way.

Looks like nobody understands you, but I lol'd!

I can't really argue with the asking price. It's four CDs. MOFO is four CDs and costs $28 more. Lumpy Money is three CDs and costs $8 more. Barfko-Swill has set the price point accordingly based on the quality of the recordings and the packaging (which is one of the worst I've seen).

If you have an issue with Barfko-Swill's pricing in general, that's different, but $42 isn't bad for a four-disc set.

I missed that it was an audience recording. It's amazing sound quality if that's the case.

The packaging is a little to be desired. A really nice book in a slip case with the CDs in plastic anti-static disc sleeves. Nothings snug so one false move and it all pours on to the floor. Cheapness indeed. the contents of the discs are great, and as said, two complete shows.

No, it isn't, of course.

FZ wrote that the recording was made on a "concealed machine" presumably meaning he concealed the recorder himself, perhaps to avoid paying venue/union fees.

Yes it is, dummy....

And, Gail said "We know FZ had a Nagra machine that he used on the road."
So...you are saying Frank was in the audience, not on stage?

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That's what sound engineers are for. How do you think he recorded the Japan shows in '76? Those were audience recordings too.

Of course it isn't - "audience recording" ("AUD" in short) means unofficial (illegal) recording with microphone, from the audience. It is not the case here . This is an official recording by FZ himself, NOT from the audience (of course).

I don't have the actual discs in my hand, but the japanese recording were at least 4-channel recordings - otherwise FZ couldn't have made stereo or especially quad mixes from them (QuAUDIOPHILIAc). On FZ:OZ the liner notes says "In this particular case the master tapes were 8-track analog one inch reels. The track sheets indicated that the band had been submixed and FZ’s guitar and vocal were separated out."

You're an idiot.

OOH! OOH! Me, too!! I agree with balint (or, he agrees with me?). So that's two idiots to one smarticle.

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Carnegie Hall was recorded by dangling one microphone over the audience. Thus, it is an "audience" recording.

Japan '76 was recorded by dangling a pair of microphones over the audience and another pair over the drumset. Thus, it is also an "audience" recording.

Neither of these recordings involve a soundboard feed, so they are NOT "soundboard" recordings.

The opposite of "soundboard" is "audience".

Now shut the fuck up.

Please! Don't hit me again!

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Looks like SOMEBODY put their dick back on, eh Wndy?

Sorry, I didn't realize that the definition of an "audience" recording was up for grabs.

If it's not a soundboard recording, then what the fuck am I supposed to call it?

All of the arguments that I have on this board involve me stating a fact, and then some dumbass comes along and says that I'm wrong, and then more dumbasses come along and agree with him. You show them proof and they still disagree with you. Facts certainly are stupid things around here.