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I was hoping I wouldn't have to include him in the same pile as SPACEBROTHER (aka tweedle-dumb). But unfortunately, he's now such a complete fucking idiot, that I just have to.
I'm going to say this once. If they really are fucking idiots as you think they are, who, but a fucking idiot, would waste his time arguing with them????



Maybe DB's theme song should be "Oops I did it Again"... :mrgreen:

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One of my favorite Zappa songs is The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing. How about you?

On your post, that would be the same corporate welfare that helped give Mitt Romney a $4.5 million tax refund last year and through the help of capital gains taxes can pay the legal limit - handed down through laws that promote various forms of corporate welfare, not including what the FED does, not including lack of leadership in Congress and not including special one-offs like TARP and bailing out banks, 'necessary private industries' etc. - Mitt gets away with paying just under 14% of his annual income.

Bet that's a lot less, percentage wise than you. It is for me. That's because taxes are as low as they've been, progressively, since the 1950's and this has been the work of Congress over the last 30 years. Hasn't improved things at all. Except for the greediest of the greedheads. Are you one of these or just an aspirant?
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I like this post. It's very articulate and representive of my views as well. Thanks for sharing simplex II!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:41 pm 
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Like I said in the Breaking News thread (which has been hijacked by political discussion - which makes sense I guess if our arguments are up to date??? ...):

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The main reason we're going around in circles on this one is because the small group of people who get to benefit the most from this poxy system sit back and watch the rest of us argue over how the scraps that fall from their table get spent on social infrastructure while taking little or no responsibility for it.

And this shit fight over the details keeps us busy while they keep on raking it in virtually unopposed.

So???

The Democrats are slightly to the left of the Republicans on this stuff. If you keep the Republicans in power perpetually, America will (if it hasn't already) just turn into a private company with no one to legislate against whatever it does. The Democrats are the only chance you have of civilising capitalism in the US. Albeit a very slim chance.

Humans seem to be far too gullible and take a long time to learn from the lessons of history. Back in the days of Feudalism, when the true rulers of the system ruled openly, there were very few benevolent rulers. As opposed to nowadays with the sinister way in which those truly in power remain faceless behind an illusion of a democratic parliament. What makes any of you think these guys are any more benevolent than people with that much power have ever been?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:20 pm 
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I was hoping I wouldn't have to include him in the same pile as SPACEBROTHER (aka tweedle-dumb). But unfortunately, he's now such a complete fucking idiot, that I just have to.
I'm going to say this once. If they really are fucking idiots as you think they are, who, but a fucking idiot, would waste his time arguing with them????



Maybe DB's theme song should be "Oops I did it Again"... :mrgreen:

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I'm STILL waitin' for you to back up the accusations you made against me with compelling evidence or proof, asshole.

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I was hoping I wouldn't have to include him in the same pile as SPACEBROTHER (aka tweedle-dumb). But unfortunately, he's now such a complete fucking idiot, that I just have to.
I'm going to say this once. If they really are fucking idiots as you think they are, who, but a fucking idiot, would waste his time arguing with them????


Non-fucking idiots (like myself) with common sense, the ability to be objective and provide evidence, proof and logic to back up one's points.

If you're implying that anyone who argues with fucking idiots like these are wasting their time and are fucking idiots themselves, then according to that logic, just about EVERYONE on this forum is a fucking idiot.

I don't understand why some people here think if arguing takes place, that it automatically renders the discussion meaningless. I may be wrong but this is a forum after all, isn't it?

And btw, I'm not the only one who thinks tweedle-dumb (and possibly tweedle-dee) is a fucking idiot... :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:16 am 
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polydigm wrote:
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I was hoping I wouldn't have to include him in the same pile as SPACEBROTHER (aka tweedle-dumb). But unfortunately, he's now such a complete fucking idiot, that I just have to.
I'm going to say this once. If they really are fucking idiots as you think they are, who, but a fucking idiot, would waste his time arguing with them????


I'm STILL waitin' for you to back up the accusations you made against me with compelling evidence or proof, asshole.

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I was hoping I wouldn't have to include him in the same pile as SPACEBROTHER (aka tweedle-dumb). But unfortunately, he's now such a complete fucking idiot, that I just have to.
I'm going to say this once. If they really are fucking idiots as you think they are, who, but a fucking idiot, would waste his time arguing with them????


Non-fucking idiots (like myself) with common sense, the ability to be objective and provide evidence, proof and logic to back up one's points.

If you're implying that anyone who argues with fucking idiots like these are wasting their time and are fucking idiots themselves, then according to that logic, just about EVERYONE on this forum is a fucking idiot.

I don't understand why some people here think if arguing takes place, that it automatically renders the discussion meaningless. I may be wrong but this is a forum after all, isn't it?

And btw, I'm not the only one who thinks tweedle-dumb (and possibly tweedle-dee) is a fucking idiot... :wink:



Yep. Disco Boy is Isaac...http://www.ralphbakshi.com/forum/viewto ... 4078#14078


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:27 am 
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Wah!?!
SB, what you said to me was nice, but wouldn't a person's own reputation be maintained better by not slandering somebody else? Regardless what they say to you.
I mean a pea looks like a bean and they are both legumes but it doesn't follow from that they are the same.
And corollary to that, I'm not so sure I want to accept a compliment from someone who spends his time misnaming peas or beans.
Just on the principle. I'm sure you are all nice people face to face, Maybe it's the internet that brings out the anonymous id.
Just a thought. If this is y'all's idea of fun, just ignore me.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:15 am 
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Pea's, beans, legumes and what not are all fine analogies, I'm just calling it as it is. Though I don't believe it for one second that Disco Boy and Isaac are two seperate entities, he sure is going out of his way to copy Isaacs posts word for word. To close and obvious not to be.


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But unfortunately, he's now such a complete fucking idiot, that I just have to...I'm STILL waitin' for you to back up the accusations you made against me with compelling evidence or proof, asshole...And btw, I'm not the only one who thinks tweedle-dumb (and possibly tweedle-dee) is a fucking idiot...



..."when challenged is defended through childish attacks..."

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:18 pm 
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Non-fucking idiots (like myself) with common sense...don't understand why some people here think arguing...renders the discussion meaningless.



..."You do realize that most here and I am willing to say this is a pretty intelligent crowd, consider you hopelessly bound to a point of view".

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Yep. Disco Boy is Isaac...http://www.ralphbakshi.com/forum/viewto ... 4078#14078

Pea's, beans, legumes and what not are all fine analogies, I'm just calling it as it is. Though I don't believe it for one second that Disco Boy and Isaac are two seperate entities, he sure is going out of his way to copy Isaacs posts word for word. To close and obvious not to be.


Yep...you're STILL a fucking idiot.

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But unfortunately, he's now such a complete fucking idiot, that I just have to...I'm STILL waitin' for you to back up the accusations you made against me with compelling evidence or proof, asshole...And btw, I'm not the only one who thinks tweedle-dumb (and possibly tweedle-dee) is a fucking idiot...


..."when challenged is defended through childish attacks..."

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When have you successfully challenged ANY of the political points I've made? And when you accuse me of shit, I have every god damn right to call you on your BS, asshole. And I will continue to, especially if you keep indulging in your cowardly ways...

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Non-fucking idiots (like myself) with common sense...don't understand why some people here think arguing...renders the discussion meaningless.



..."You do realize that most here and I am willing to say this is a pretty intelligent crowd, consider you hopelessly bound to a point of view".

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RETURN. OF. THE. SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

You do realize that you shouldn't speak on behalf of others, nor would they want you to, right?

And while I've asserted the points I've made, I certainly haven't been hopelessly doing so.


Btw, I'm STILL waitin' for you to back up your accusations where you stated that I've taken part in, "...regurgitation of so called facts that are at best half truths and more likely out right lies."

Your diversion tactic is NOT working...:roll:

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Return of the Son of BAN ISAAC Again


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Ah, the Ban Isaac thread was a good one.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13891&hilit=Ban+Isaac

I particularly enjoyed Isaac's utterly inaccurate claim that...
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I may seem a bit rash at times, but I've never flat out attacked anyone without provocation, despite claims to the contrary. I've always had kind of a defensive attitude, often I've found myself being provoked into engaging in a spit match with another to defend my honor and integrity. I try not to do this, I know that people who try to pick fights with me for no reason are less intelligent than I am, and it's kind of ridiculous when I try to lower myself to their level of immaturity.

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"Yep...you're STILL a fucking idiot...I have every god damn right to call you on your BS, asshole."



"...trying to bully people out of the conversation."

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Wow, in two different threads. Insane. Really contributing to the "political opinions and solutions". The only thing like Isaac in this thread is the age that people act. I thought that perhaps the people here might be smarter than the average forum user because of the the fans we all are of the genius that created such complex and engaging music. Nope. He'd probably be ashamed to log on here. Such infantile nonsense.

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Actually, one of things I like about Zappa is the infantile nonsense. :P

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Wow, in two different threads. Insane. Really contributing to the "political opinions and solutions". The only thing like Isaac in this thread is the age that people act. I thought that perhaps the people here might be smarter than the average forum user because of the the fans we all are of the genius that created such complex and engaging music. Nope. He'd probably be ashamed to log on here. Such infantile nonsense.



I agree, I have given up on trying to make a point or offer an opinion when someone I have liked on the forum in the past insist on calling me names and trying to bully me out of the conversation. I don't really like either party, but I attempt to offer opinions for what I see and what I think and because I am in some way going against someone else’s opinion...I am harassed as are others. Then I am accused of not sufficiently making my point, as if it is somehow deficient.

I have always defended the weak against the abusers of the world, I am not going to stop when someone bad attempts to abuse me or others here. This bully had a chance to cool his jets and he chooses to go Richard Cranium on anyone who did not cave...well I know how to deal with this type of harassment and I will, I’m not sure if this guy is Isaac or the Three Stooges, but he is a bully in the purist sense and it is unacceptable.

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Actually, one of things I like about Zappa is the infantile nonsense. :P


Well, it's not exactly the infantile nonsense I was referring to.

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I agree, I have given up on trying to make a point or offer an opinion when someone I have liked on the forum in the past insist on calling me names and trying to bully me out of the conversation. I don't really like either party, but I attempt to offer opinions for what I see and what I think and because I am in some way going against someone else’s opinion...I am harassed as are others. Then I am accused of not sufficiently making my point, as if it is somehow deficient.

I have always defended the weak against the abusers of the world, I am not going to stop when someone bad attempts to abuse me or others here. This bully had a chance to cool his jets and he chooses to go Richard Cranium on anyone who did not cave...well I know how to deal with this type of harassment and I will, I’m not sure if this guy is Isaac or the Three Stooges, but he is a bully in the purist sense and it is unacceptable.

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Give me a fucking break. You are a hypocrite of the highest order. There are two reasons why I've now resorted to referring to you as tweedle-dee and a fucking idiot: 1) This post, on page 28 of the "Voting RonPaulwars? What supporters may not be telling you thread"...:

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Its more like a Pavlov's dog type of thing, he actually does everything in the my post every time I put it up...its mind boggling. It’s like he hasn't really read it and in an effort to squash my point, he does exactly what it says!

Any redundancy on my part is worth watching the monkey juggle on command...especially when the command is "your a juggling monkey"...I don't know if its the result of being a straight bullshitter, stupid, or true narcissism...but it is quite the exercise in human behavior, that’s for sure...

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...and 2) I've constantly asked you to back up your claims and accusations that I've engaged in, "half-truths" or "out-right lies." But you STILL can't do it. So, what do you do instead? You misquote me and try to pick a part some of the statements I've made to try and make it look like you're somehow proving a point that you initially made, despite the fact you NEVER made a point to begin with because you're WAY too concise and indulge in ultra-generalizations (for example, making blanket statements like, blaming ALL of Obama's shortcomings on the NSB or that the US is better off as a socialist nation, which clearly don't provide much insight) that don't make very much sense. I think just about ANYONE paying attention can see that this is a diversion tactic that is NOT working. And if you actually made a point and expounded on what you meant, then I'd still probably disagree...but I'd still respect your opinion. And the ONLY times where I've resorted to profanity, are when I have a history with someone, or when I've been attacked first (recently, it's been with yourself & SPACEBROTHER). So stop weaselling your way out of this and stop acting like a victim. It's VERY cowardly... :roll:

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If you look closely at this poster you will see that it spells out S-E-X in her hair.



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Isaac Boy can't help himself. He just keeps going and going on. Same insults. Same magatude of insults. Same ego. Same BOLDING of certain WORDS. Like his Youtube video explaining his Romney and Obama position's, just like in his sig, right down to the exact same anaology. Same forcing himself to be the center of every conversation in every other thread. Just like old times. :mrgreen:


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If you look closely at this poster you will see that it spells out S-E-X in her hair.



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If you look closely at this pic, you will see that it spells out R-E-T-A-R-D across the Superman logo.

tweedle-dumb wrote:
Isaac Boy can't help himself. He just keeps going and going on. Same insults. Same magatude of insults. Same ego. Same BOLDING of certain WORDS. Like his Youtube video explaining his Romney and Obama position's, just like in his sig, right down to the exact same anaology. Same forcing himself to be the center of every conversation in every other thread. Just like old times. :mrgreen:


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If you look closely at this poster you will see that it spells out S-E-X in her hair.
As far as political opinions and solutions go, this is the most interesting one I've seen for some time here.

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Note: I am now disgusted with you, how dare you post a photo of someone disabled and attempt to bully someone else with it, one thing I never do is allow attacks on those who can least defend themselves women, children, and the disabled...Completely unacceptable, typical sociopath behavior, you should see someone before you hurt someone, you hurt yourself, or someone hurts you in self defense, because this kind of bullying is usually fallowed closely with physical attacks...I am sure you are acting out in your community or soon will…


Disco Boy wrote:
"If you look closely at this pic, you will see that it spells out R-E-T-A-R-D across the Superman logo."
"Give me a fucking break. You are a hypocrite of the highest order. There are two reasons why I've now resorted to referring to you as tweedle-dee and a fucking idiot..."
" So stop weaselling your way out of this and stop acting like a victim. It's VERY cowardly..."



"...trying to bully people out of the conversation."

..."when challenged is defended through childish attacks..."

"..."when challenged is defended through childish attacks..."

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If you look closely at this pic, you will see that it spells out R-E-T-A-R-D across the Superman logo.

That's fucking low rent dude. Do you think that's funny?

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