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I have to go with "Promiscous". The more I hear it, the more lazy and "Air Farce" it sounds. I get that Zappa had a bone to pick, it's not the best execution.

Yo Cats and a few others with that stupid talk-sing vocal, they are annoying, wish I could dump the vocal. I find many of the songs on Broadway the Hard Way to be not to my taste as well (I saw him twice in '88 and was glad he didn't play much of that album).

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... I love Yo Cats... and Ike Willis's vocal on it...

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Sorry Bonny, this may be the only Frank topic on which we disagree

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"Jumbo Go Away." The lyrics on that one have bothered me for a long time.

I'm with her. You're outnumbered! (right now)

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I used to hate it, but then I thought it was funny after learning it was destined for the 80s traditional Jazz school...

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Good to know there are FZ fans who will defend anything

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Saxophone, clarinet... how many doubles can you get?

I would also vote for Promiscuous, but then it is among his most outrageously cospiratorial Zappa.

My vote goes for Billy the Mountain. Even though it is diverse and rich, with a few funny moments, I simply don't get it.

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What makes you think the Luigi song is better than Billy The Mountain? I love Billy. There aren't many respectable female characters in Zappa songs, but we have Ethel!

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and she is against the draft - what a babe

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Love Ike's vocals. Love Ed's percussion. Just a great song.

See, even if somebody hates it, someone else is bound to like it. Like Guitar - anything beyond Sexual Harassment is a complete bore to me.

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Sorry to disappoint you. There is no Ed Mann on Yo' Cats. That's all Synclavier, except some Chad Wackerman probably.

Th.

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Coneheads? Disco Boy? Planet of My Dreams? Dinah Mo Hum? That's all I can think of at the moment.

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Two of my favourites there... one because it all started with Disco Boy, the other... I just love male falsetto. The planet of my dreams!

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I actually really like Planet of my Dreams. Not the biggest fan of Conehead, either.

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Actually Frank has had his fair share of demics along the way.

Off the top of my head...

The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet
Dinah Moe Humm
Dangerous kitchen
Prelude to the Afternoon of a Sexually Aroused Gas Mask
Weasels ripped my flesh
...and a large part of '200 motels'

Tengo Na Minchia Tanta has to be the most crap-tastic of all the lesser tunes (and there are numerous of them), tacking it onto Uncle Meat CD was pure sacrilege. Film excerpts I can vaguely, just vaguely understand, but this song's inclusion is just baffling beyond belief. And of course it's just no good at all musically either. Then again, for better or worse, Frank WAS into putting all sorts of freaks and creeps on his recordings and in 1982 he just happened onto a phallus-obsessed Italian journo, haha!

Oh yeah, the YCDTOSA6 version of "Black Napkins", when the sublime 1976 Brecker sax solo ends, the 1984 guitar solo bit is an ABOMINATION!

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A lot of the edits within songs in the YCDTOSA series are a bit terrible. I can't recall the volume, but cutting in an ancient lo-fi chorus of "Lonesome Cowboy Burt" into a later recorded version is just shit awful on the ears. You're into the new track, then the old one comes on and throws you right out of the song. Then you get used to it and it throws you back to the new recording. Oof! Maybe we'll get some "Road Tapes" version of some of the more interesting material that showed up on these releases.

There are a lot of goofy throwaway songs like "Coneheads", but "Promiscuous" is just terrible in every way. Even as a satire of shitty white rap music it's terrible. Zappa was way better then that, especially with that band.

I was never huge on "Guitar" either, but listening to it last night with fresh ears, I enjoyed it a lot more. I wont right it off.

"Cowboy Nando" is also from the Vol 6 and I must admit my opinion differs here: while in theory patching together a digitally recorded 1988 band with a large brass section with tape-recorded horn-less 1971 combo with no musicians in common between the two (FZ excluded) could be absolutely jarring, FZ in fact did pull this one edit off quite well. I also liked how King Kong on Vol 3 goes from a reggae-fied 1982 band silliness into a 1971 Underwood alto solo (one of his best!), another edit that works, possibly because King Kong's Monster Song status on both FZ tours implies total anything-goes feel, so why not some 1971 sax and guitar into the 1982 style madness?

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Any GTO song.

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Those are all great songs, and "demic" is a very lame piece of slang.
Embrace the dissonance -- it is your friend.

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I can't believe that it is possible to be a Frank Zappa fan and to have problems with the above music at the same time. You are probably wrong in the universe of Frank Zappa and other related concepts. You should better consider buying the latest releases by Robbie Williams, Lady Gaga and the like instead, if you didn't already. You must be somebody who came from hearing Bobby Brown on the radio first and then discovering things, that were horrifying for you.

I think anybody who is into Zappa should have understood the basic concept of artistic freedom. Recently I was astound about how many people from the Zappa world have simple-minded problems with an album like Trout Mask Replica in that other thread.

Thinman

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