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 Post subject: Road Tapes
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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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Ordered, the Font on the cover is Steadman-ish... I like it!

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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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Two mildly interesting comments on the show from people who (claim they) actually went to it. Culled from the piles of litter on the internet.


From March 9, 1993 -
In `68 or `69 (memory's pretty fuzzy from dem old days) I saw 
Frank at the Kerrisdale Arena (a rather sorry 5000 seat skating 
rink in Vancouver next to my old high school) on his first return 
to Canada after a bad experience in Montreal some years earlier. 
(Perhaps some of my francophone compatriots can recall the details: 
something about being thrown out of a restaurant and being 
generally misunderstood on stage, and I don't think it was just 
a language barrier thing :^) )
Anyway, after a really rollicking version of King Kong featuring 
Frank and two others on drums playing at once, he got a thunderous 
standing ovation, and when the noise died down, he walked to the 
mike and in a voice that seemed mixed with equal amounts of wonder 
and gratitude said "That...that's an unprecedented response to 
the kind of bullshit that we play" Of course, we cheered even louder 
and went home very happy.
Ah, memories!
Brian Redman ( source Return of the Son of Monster Magnet)

From April 9, 2007 -

Hi Rick, I spent a lot of time at Retinal Circus in the 60's. Was at the July show of Velvet Underground, saw the Doors, Blacksnake Blues Band... those were the days. Actually had a hot night with some girl that was selling chocolate bars to the left of the stage... hah ha.

Do you have any info on the Zappa concert at Kerrisdale Arena? 1966 or 1967? I was there. I believe it was a White Lightening Acid night. Frank adapted "Help I'm A Rock" to "HELP I'm the Mayor"!! (Tom Campbell) Boy, do I have stories about that night. We partied with The "Mothers" at some seaside house out in West Vancouver, actually gave the drummer a ride back to the BlueBoy Hotel at 49th and Southwest Marine.

Dave Tate

So I ask Dave if he has any pix, and here he is in 1966 with his Fenton Weill guitar. He was lead guitarist for the Vancouver band Beau Jangs.

(source w w w.rickmcgrath - retinal circus)


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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:03 pm 
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Ordered. I'm holding off on Inderstanding America until I see some reviews.


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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:37 pm 
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Ordered, this is the stuff we want - maybe someone knows what got played that night?

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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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Val Valentin wrote:
Two mildly interesting comments on the show from people who (claim they) actually went to it. Culled from the piles of litter on the internet.


From March 9, 1993 -
In `68 or `69 (memory's pretty fuzzy from dem old days) I saw 
Frank at the Kerrisdale Arena (a rather sorry 5000 seat skating 
rink in Vancouver next to my old high school) on his first return 
to Canada after a bad experience in Montreal some years earlier. 
(Perhaps some of my francophone compatriots can recall the details: 
something about being thrown out of a restaurant and being 
generally misunderstood on stage, and I don't think it was just 
a language barrier thing :^) )
Anyway, after a really rollicking version of King Kong featuring 
Frank and two others on drums playing at once, he got a thunderous 
standing ovation, and when the noise died down, he walked to the 
mike and in a voice that seemed mixed with equal amounts of wonder 
and gratitude said "That...that's an unprecedented response to 
the kind of bullshit that we play" Of course, we cheered even louder 
and went home very happy.
Ah, memories!
Brian Redman ( source Return of the Son of Monster Magnet)

From April 9, 2007 -

Hi Rick, I spent a lot of time at Retinal Circus in the 60's. Was at the July show of Velvet Underground, saw the Doors, Blacksnake Blues Band... those were the days. Actually had a hot night with some girl that was selling chocolate bars to the left of the stage... hah ha.

Do you have any info on the Zappa concert at Kerrisdale Arena? 1966 or 1967? I was there. I believe it was a White Lightening Acid night. Frank adapted "Help I'm A Rock" to "HELP I'm the Mayor"!! (Tom Campbell) Boy, do I have stories about that night. We partied with The "Mothers" at some seaside house out in West Vancouver, actually gave the drummer a ride back to the BlueBoy Hotel at 49th and Southwest Marine.

Dave Tate

So I ask Dave if he has any pix, and here he is in 1966 with his Fenton Weill guitar. He was lead guitarist for the Vancouver band Beau Jangs.

(source w w w.rickmcgrath - retinal circus)


Very Interesting. Thanks!

When I was 12 & 13 years old, I used to play ice hockey games in Kerrisdale Arena. It's not used for concerts any longer but apart from FZ and The Mothers, up until the early '80s, artists like The Clash, Motorhead and Split Enz played here...

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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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I'm in. $15 seems reasonable.

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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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Anyone have any clue what the set list was for this show?
The known recordings before and after this show are a bit all over the 60's map.

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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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Sorry for the newbtastic question, but what is the sourcing on these? If it's FZ's own two-track "field recordings", I'm way in. If it's audience, I'm way out.

It would be nice if the Zappa family had a web site where they could provide this kind of information. Oh, that's right...


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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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BillyDaMt wrote:
I'm in. $15 seems reasonable.

+ 14.7$ shipping to switzerland

but i have to get it as quik as possible

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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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Seriously, Barfko has to do something about it's postage prices. After dealing with amazon.com = cheap post and bookdepository.com = no post, Barfko is a real economic slap in the face. Effectively doubling the price of what you sell is not a good way to do business.

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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:58 am 
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preordered/same day delivery -

I hope there are many of these - at least 1 from each tour

maybe monthly installments? - I'd sign for that...(where's my Chrissie?)

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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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$12.70 to ship to Canada and this is the cheapest option available. This service also takes about three weeks longer than just sending it via the US Postal Service for four bucks. Ow, my ass is sore...


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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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Finally, something from the old days that I fancy buying.
Get to the check out and they want me to pay $14.70 for shipping to the UK.
Fuck that :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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Finally, something from the old days that I fancy buying.
Get to the check out and they want me to pay $14.70 for shipping to the UK.
Fuck that :evil:


I'm sure G&S Music will stock this


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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:58 am 
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Val Valentin wrote:
Two mildly interesting comments on the show from people who (claim they) actually went to it. Culled from the piles of litter on the internet.



Thanks for searching. This sounds interesting!!!

From FzShows we get that the band in August 68 was:
FZ, Ray Collins, Roy Estrada, Jimmy Carl Black, Art Tripp, Ian Underwood, Don Preston, Bunk Gardner, Motorhead Sherwood. (Last tour with Ray Collins)

The only show listed for August 68 is uncertain, and gets the following mention:

1968 08 03 - Wollman Rink, Central Park, New York, NY
Date and location for the following recordings are quite uncertain...
Early Show ?
65 min, Aud, B+
With "Billy Velvet" from the audience (*). Actually it's quite unlikely that this show took place at the Wollman Ring.
intro, Trouble Every Day, improvisations, Hungry Freaks Daddy, King Kong, improvisations, Mr Green Genes, My Boyfriend's Back / I'm Gonna Bust His Head, Tiny Sick Tears, Hang On Sloopy*, Wipe Out, Go Cry On Somebody Else's Shoulder, Octandre
Late Show ?
This recording was previously listed as two separated but related items. The creator of this page has now found definitive evidence it is actually from a single show. This recording used to circulate in uncountable combinations and permutation, parts of it were previously listed as 1968 ?? ?? - Central Park?, New York?, were commonly known as Central Park, 1969 08 02 and even circulating as Montreal, 1969 08 or with Fillmore East as location.
60 min, Stage, A-/B+
Jazz Rock Heavily Influenced By Al Kooper (flute solo), Help I'm A Rock / Transylvania Boogie, Baby Love, Big Leg Emma, Shortly (Holiday In Berlin), Trouble Every Day, The Orange County Lumber Track Medley

So, not much to go along with. A month later they are in Europe without Collins.

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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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I plan on ordering this with a couple of other titles to justify the postage. It's a total but rape though to charge that much to Canada, especially with the wait and being more expensive then any other website.

I doubt these will show up in stores or amazon. Did any of the other Zappa records show up in other locations?


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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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Oh and add me to the list of fans wondering "Would it fucking kill them to list information like source material and a tracklist?" I mean, it would only get people more excited right?


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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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The FZ Gig List sez this show is from August 25, 1968.

And although the Gig List doesn't mention this, I met Jeff Simmons in Vancouver in 1995 and he told me that Easy Chair opened for the Mothers in Seattle and Vancouver in 1968.


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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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I doubt these will show up in stores or amazon. Did any of the other Zappa records show up in other locations?


If it was possible to order these anywhere other than MusicToday I would do so immediately. Ordering from G&S to Canada is no cheaper either.


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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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TwentySmallCigars wrote:
The FZ Gig List sez this show is from August 25, 1968.

And although the Gig List doesn't mention this, I met Jeff Simmons in Vancouver in 1995 and he told me that Easy Chair opened for the Mothers in Seattle and Vancouver in 1968.


I looked there too and my appetite is whetted. I figure she won't issue a setlits for the same reasons she holds back, the fear of bootleggers and the reason this show is going to go out is that it appears never to have been on zappateers.

Or maybe I am wrong, anyway I ordered it. 8)

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Well, happy birthday to ME!!!! :shock:



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As it is my birthday today..... I have received ANOTHER good review:

From Amazon:
This review is from: The Enigma of David's Toe (Paperback)
"This book is a page turner...kept me going from the start. I love a story that moves back and forth in time, and this one delivered. Was it real? Was it insanity? You read and find out. Money well spent."

As I won't be getting my Zappa Cd's today, would you all be so kind as to just drop off a 5 star standing on my book on the iTunes, or anywhere you get books on line........

Thank you.


Step right up!
paperback:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Enigma-Davids ... ap_title_0
kindle:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Enigma-Davids ... B00963VYNY


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 Post subject: Re: Road Tapes
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tweezers wrote:
TwentySmallCigars wrote:
The FZ Gig List sez this show is from August 25, 1968.

And although the Gig List doesn't mention this, I met Jeff Simmons in Vancouver in 1995 and he told me that Easy Chair opened for the Mothers in Seattle and Vancouver in 1968.


I looked there too and my appetite is whetted. I figure she won't issue a setlits for the same reasons she holds back, the fear of bootleggers and the reason this show is going to go out is that it appears never to have been on zappateers.

Or maybe I am wrong, anyway I ordered it. 8)


I dunno, but the ZFT releasing a set list isn't going to make an uncirculated show suddenly appear on Zappateers. If it has never been traded, or is an FZ stage recording or something, then why not just throw up a set list? Doesn't make sense.

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