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To end this thread (as if it hadn't ended already), here's Ron Paul's Farewell Address....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqi6paX3 ... e=youtu.be

He talks about the economy a lot.


Thanks for posting this. Over the past several days I kept forgetting to update this thread.

This below clip should be watched before the above clip:

Ron Paul's stunning accurate world event predictions from April 24, 2002...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJG_oFF ... re=related


Meanwhile, the US and most world economies are about to sink into a double-dip recession (or possibly even another depression) STRICTLY because of Obama's socialist administrative policies in 5...4...3...2...

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Thanks for posting this.


You're welcome. :wink:

(and you're right- he was spot on on the Middle East, though, as you might guess, I have severe doubts about the STRICTLY )

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Caputh wrote:
Disco Boy wrote:
Thanks for posting this.


You're welcome. :wink:

(and you're right- he was spot on on the Middle East, though, as you might guess, I have severe doubts about the STRICTLY )


And the Housing Bubble crisis we're STILL enduring. And how poverty is worse now than it was. And...and...and...

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Caputh wrote:
To end this thread (as if it hadn't ended already), here's Ron Paul's Farewell Address....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqi6paX3 ... e=youtu.be

He talks about the economy a lot.



"Just how much did I accomplish? In many ways, according to conventional wisdom, my off and on career in Congress between 1976 and 2012, accomplished very little..." ~ Ron paul (1:15 minutes into his speech)


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Yup.

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Because he was basically alone in his fight for common sense and fairness.

He will not be forgotten, however. While he could not do much to change the way government works, he did tons to bring Libertarian ideas into the mainstream. He did much to educate the American people about how our system is rigged and corrupted, and how big government has broken us economically while also taking away our freedoms.

I look forward to a day when the United States of America becomes once again the land of the free and the home of the brave, instead of the land of the fee, and the home of the slave. I look forward to living in a country that is truly peaceful, and not a world bully. I look forward to rebuilding this country, instead of rebuilding countries we destroy. I look forward to a day when fascist "profits to the corporations, losses to the people" bail outs are unthinkable. I look forward to the day when I smoke a little weed without worrying that some scum cop is going to put me in jail for it.

I look forward to this because Ron Paul proved that it is possible. It's unfortunate that it could not happen the easy way, by electing Ron Paul, and that it will probably now happen the hard way, after people feel the pain of a fallen economy and worthless dollar.











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Well, at least we have Ran to lead us. :mrgreen:

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tweedle-dumb wrote:
Caputh wrote:
To end this thread (as if it hadn't ended already), here's Ron Paul's Farewell Address....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqi6paX3 ... e=youtu.be

He talks about the economy a lot.



"Just how much did I accomplish? In many ways, according to conventional wisdom, my off and on career in Congress between 1976 and 2012, accomplished very little..." ~ Ron paul (1:15 minutes into his speech)


fitting


Nice OUT OF CONTEXT quote, asshole. :roll:

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Yup.


Yeah...like you watched the entire thing. :roll:

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Because he was basically alone in his fight for common sense and fairness.

He will not be forgotten, however. While he could not do much to change the way government works, he did tons to bring Libertarian ideas into the mainstream. He did much to educate the American people about how our system is rigged and corrupted, and how big government has broken us economically while also taking away our freedoms.

I look forward to a day when the United States of America becomes once again the land of the free and the home of the brave, instead of the land of the fee, and the home of the slave. I look forward to living in a country that is truly peaceful, and not a world bully. I look forward to rebuilding this country, instead of rebuilding countries we destroy. I look forward to a day when fascist "profits to the corporations, losses to the people" bail outs are unthinkable. I look forward to the day when I smoke a little weed without worrying that some scum cop is going to put me in jail for it.

I look forward to this because Ron Paul proved that it is possible. It's unfortunate that it could not happen the easy way, by electing Ron Paul, and that it will probably now happen the hard way, after people feel the pain of a fallen economy and worthless dollar.











"Those that make peaceful change impossible make violent revolution inevitable" - John F. Kennedy, a real true-life liberal Democrat that actually wanted to make this a better nation.


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A Grand Slam home-run!


And let's not forget, if it wasn't for Ron Paul, Washington State and Colorado may not have had the freedom to light 'em up... :smoke:

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Well, at least we have Ran to lead us. :mrgreen:


Wtf is that?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:08 pm 
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Ronald Noomies wrote:
Well, at least we have Ran to lead us. :mrgreen:


Wtf is that?

I believe he means Rand Paul DB.

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My Real Name Is Isaac And I'm Still A Douchebag wrote:
Yep...Isaac Is Definitely Disco Boy wrote:
Caputh wrote:
To end this thread (as if it hadn't ended already), here's Ron Paul's Farewell Address....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqi6paX3 ... e=youtu.be

He talks about the economy a lot.



"Just how much did I accomplish? In many ways, according to conventional wisdom, my off and on career in Congress between 1976 and 2012, accomplished very little..." ~ Ron paul (1:15 minutes into his speech)


fitting


Nice OUT OF CONTEXT quote, asshole. :roll:


typical Isaac response


btw...Still waiting for those 10 million Ron Paul voters to show up to the polls that you guaranteed would be there because of your math skills. Where could they be?!?!... :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:42 am 
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This is one thing that might have happened to the votes...

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

My feeling is that most Paul supporters were Ron Paul or no one at all. I really do think that in the Republican primaries, Ron Paul was the victim of corrupt vote-flipping. The vote that was given for Paul was flipped to Santorum, Gingrich, or the crazy gal whose name now escapes me. They each got a spotlight as a contender for a few minutes, but if the real tally was presented, Ron Paul would have been a continuous contender.

(Yeah yeah yeah "conspiracy theorist" fuck you you gullible fools.)

How else can we explain the massive amounts of campaign funds Paul had compared to Gingrich and Santorum? Are we to believe that these people gave money to the Paul campaign and then did not go out and vote? No. More likely, the vote count was manipulated, and you can ask me to prove it, but you can't prove that it wasn't, because all tallies come through the Associated Press, and all electronic voting software is proprietary, which means no one but the corporation that produced it can actually examine it.

Now, consider what would have happened if the Republican Party had not treated Ron Paul so poorly. Paul supporters would have turned out and voted for Romney, thus handing Romney the pResidency. Instead, pissed-off Paul supporters did not vote, or voted third party, or vainly attempted to write-in Ron Paul.

The simple fact is, we were fooled again by a corrupt an unaccountable voting system. That's okay with some folks, because "their guy" won.

It's kinda fucked...

http://2016themovie.com/

..and so are we.


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If Ron Paul had 10 million voters, then why didn't most of them show up for the primaries? He barely got 1/4th of that number of voters. Isaac Boy makes this shit up as he goes along.


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Now, consider what would have happened if the Republican Party had not treated Ron Paul so poorly. Paul supporters would have turned out and voted for Romney, thus handing Romney the pResidency. Instead, pissed-off Paul supporters did not vote, or voted third party, or vainly attempted to write-in Ron Paul.



Feel free to disagree but I think there's two conclusions that one could draw from your statement here...
a) the Ron Paul voters who refused to vote handed Obama the election, thus Obama must have been pleased that Ron Paul continued his candidacy.
b) that Ron Paul supporters are potential Romney supporters if one does not piss them off.

Is b) a good thing?

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SPACEBROTHER...did you read my post re: Ron Paul's ten million votes? If they did exist, that's what happened to them...simply put, Ron Paul's votes were illegally flipped to other candidates. Trust me, Ron Paul people voted in the Republican primaries. He drew larger crowds than any other candidate. It is preposterous to believe that they did not vote, so in my view, vote fraud is evident.

Please read previous posts before posting your own, and stop beLIEving everything you see on TV.

Caputh...the way I see it, most Ron Paul supporters do not see any major difference between Romney and Obama, and would not vote for either in any case. However, if Ron Paul was given more clout at the convention, more presence, and if some of his ideas were adopted into the platform, enough Ron Paul supporters would have voted for Romney that Romney would have won this very close election.

Enough Ron Paul supporters are still Republican enough to vote for the nominee if that nominee is gracious to their candidate. Romney was not. The fact that some Ron Paul supporters see themselves as Republican is neither good or bad in my view...it's just normal. Ron's big strength was that he drew support from all sides of the political spectrum, resulting in a fine mix of potheads and gun nuts.

Obama should be happy that Ron Paul was reduced by his own party, and not glorified.

Ron Paul people do not care which major party puppet gets elected. It's Ron Paul, the honest man, or no vote at all. Perhaps by not voting, they "handed" Obama the election, but what's the difference then?


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Caputh wrote:
A rope leash wrote:

Now, consider what would have happened if the Republican Party had not treated Ron Paul so poorly. Paul supporters would have turned out and voted for Romney, thus handing Romney the pResidency. Instead, pissed-off Paul supporters did not vote, or voted third party, or vainly attempted to write-in Ron Paul.



Feel free to disagree but I think there's two conclusions that one could draw from your statement here...
a) the Ron Paul voters who refused to vote handed Obama the election, thus Obama must have been pleased that Ron Paul continued his candidacy.
b) that Ron Paul supporters are potential Romney supporters if one does not piss them off.

Is b) a good thing?



Also if even a 1/2 of them didn't vote, then voter turn out was much higher then in 2008, even with the huge voter suppression effort of republicans in states they controlled.

Since the suppressed vote most likely reached the millions, the turn out must of been enormous, possibly as many as 5 to 15 million people did not vote that had in the past and yet the numbers were down by only a fraction, as many as 20 million new voters must have came out.

The “Get out to Vote” people are clear winners here if your numbers are even in the same zip code with reality… :smoke:


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Ron Pauls votes weren't flipped...certainly not the other 8 million of the 10 million Isaac Boy said would be there beyond any reasonable doubt. :smurf:


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Can you prove that?

No...nor can I prove the votes were flipped, however many there were. It just seems farcical that Ron Paul's rallies were so well attended and his campaign was so well funded with individual donations from people that apparently didn't vote.


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A rope leash wrote:
Can you prove that?

No...nor can I prove the votes were flipped, however many there were. It just seems farcical that Ron Paul's rallies were so well attended and his campaign was so well funded with individual donations from people that apparently didn't vote.



Romneys last week of rallies were so full they thought he was going to win by a landslide, the thinking "if this many people showed up there must be 10's of thousamnds more that didn't", turned out everybody came to the rally... :smoke:


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If Ron Paul had 10 million voters, then why didn't most of them show up for the primaries? He barely got 1/4th of that number of voters. Isaac Boy makes this shit up as he goes along.


Because there's only a certain percentage of voters allowed to vote in the primaries (where well over 2 million people voted for Ron Paul), you fucking idiot. We've been over this COUNTLESS times before. :roll:

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Also if even a 1/2 of them didn't vote, then voter turn out was much higher then in 2008, even with the huge voter suppression effort of republicans in states they controlled.

Since the suppressed vote most likely reached the millions, the turn out must of been enormous, possibly as many as 5 to 15 million people did not vote that had in the past and yet the numbers were down by only a fraction, as many as 20 million new voters must have came out.

The “Get out to Vote” people are clear winners here if your numbers are even in the same zip code with reality… :smoke:


The fuck?! :roll:


131,393,990 people voted in the 2008 US Presidential Election (69,498,215 ~ Obama vs. 59,948,240 ~ McCain).

127,835,270 people voted in the 2012 US Presidential Election (65,061,993 ~ Obama vs. 60,551,798 ~ Romney).


And now that the finally tally is complete, Obama received about 4.5 million less votes this year than in 2008. If Obama hadn't issued Obama Phones and had been truthful beforehand to the American public about the upcoming Fiscal Cliff, imminently-bursting Treasury Bubble and US dollar crash, the results might have been very different. Whereas, the Republican vote slightly increased this year from where it was in 2008...

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That whole "fiscal cliff" bullshit surfaced in all the corporate media just right after the election, didn't it?

...and all the major outlets called it the "fiscal cliff", as if that was what it was always called, even though nobody ever heard of it before.

Fascinating isn't it? How does that happen, if the media isn't centrally controlled?


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That whole "fiscal cliff" bullshit surfaced in all the corporate media just right after the election, didn't it?

...and all the major outlets called it the "fiscal cliff", as if that was what it was always called, even though nobody ever heard of it before.

Fascinating isn't it? How does that happen, if the media isn't centrally controlled?

Good point rope.

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How does that happen


George Carlin explains in 3 minutes.

http://youtu.be/hYIC0eZYEtI


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If Obama hadn't issued Obama Phones and had been truthful beforehand to the American public about the upcoming Fiscal Cliff, imminently-bursting Treasury Bubble and US dollar crash, the results might have been very different. Whereas, the Republican vote slightly increased this year from where it was in 2008...



Obama phones in relation to fiscal cliff? Are you fucking high? :P


The economic bubble burst in 2006 before Obama even announced that he was running. Shee-it...Republicans controlled the entire government when that happened. Gawd.. I hate debating with imbeciles. Put down the fricken bong Isaac Boy and get a job.


The only people holding up our insurance from falling off of the "fiscal cliff", as it has been since 2001, when the Bush tax cuts were first implemented, are Republicans who have their cocks in Grover Norquists anus now-a--days. No brainer knack for the obvious.


The only logical explanation for the anti-Obamaists are that they are all racists who can't stand that a black man has proven himself to be a far superior leader than every chump they've had running for about 150 years. Did they stop teaching American history since I was in high school in the 1980s, or are all people who are full on dedicated Republican voters just stupid racists now-a-days?


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Are you still arguing over this shit?

I'm from "socialist" Sweden by the way, and we're doing fine! :smoke:

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SPACEBROTHER: "The only logical explanation for the anti-Obamaists are that they are all racists who can't stand that a black man has proven himself to be a far superior leader than every chump they've had running for about 150 years. Did they stop teaching American history since I was in high school in the 1980s, or are all people who are full on dedicated Republican voters just stupid racists now-a-days?"

Chickenshit Supreme.

If he's far superior, why did he only win fifty percent of the popular vote?

Because of racism? What a turd that is.

Maybe it's because, when the Democrats had control in 2008, nothing changed as promised. GitMo is still open, war is still forever on the horizon, more people than ever are on food stamps, on unemployment, working poor, or homeless.

Maybe all of the so called "racists" are just normal people that can't stand lying bastards.

The problem with you, SPACEBROTHER, is that you suffer from delusions transferred from the cult of personality. You cannot accept that many people do not like your hero, but instead of thinking that your hero must have faults, like normal people would, you think that everyone who doesn't like your hero has faults.

I saw a lot of people like this when George W, Bush was pResident. If you didn't like him, you were "un-American", whatever that means.

In any case, we don't want everybody loving any pResident. A seventy-five percent average approval rating is about as high as it should go...otherwise, we risk dictatorship.

I'm anti-Obama, for the most part, but I'm hopeful he will keep us out of wars better than Romney would have. Being called "racist" by Obama's minions makes me hate Obama, so stop doing it. I'm not a racist, but I'm starting to think that you don't like white people. If Obama supporters keep pulling the race card, someday it might well be about race, and we don't want that, do we?

Or is that really what you want? Blame all the hate on the color of someone's skin? Riots?

Obama could then use his USA PATRIOT ACT and NDAA powers to totally control everything...he would be a king.

That would be okay with you, I presume?


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