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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:41 am 
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BloodSugar00 wrote:

Thanks Joe. It's a shame you aren't at liberty to say more about the content of the release/that of new releases in general, but that mystery has it's own charm, I suppose... looking forward to hearing, and, ultimately, seeing for myself, what this one's all about! 8)


Yeah, it would be handy to have some sort of idea on the content
If it's largely spoken word then people might get cheesed off.
That's what happened when I forked out $60 for Playground Psychotics
I really only wanna listen to the spoken word stuff once, it's the music that bears repeated listenings


Wait a few days after the release for someone to post a review then.


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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:50 am 
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I bought some fz remasters from wowhd. but you have to be very patient - delivery is really slow! 3 weeks to italy!


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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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ursinator wrote:
Another forum member gave me (and all other european citizens of course :wink: ) the hint to buy here: http://www.wowhd.de/search?q=frank+zappa&sort=relevance&page=1 I didn't try it since but lots of the single CDs cost 9,99€, most doubles 16,99€. If anyone has experiences with this distributor, please report.
Incidentally: Läther and finer moments ready for preordering:
http://www.wowhd.de/CD/frank-zappa-finer-moments/dp/31962173
http://www.wowhd.de/CD/frank-zappa-lather/dp/31920859

WowHD are okay. Slow deliveries, but low prices and no shipping fee. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:24 pm 
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What's with the pricing situation?!

Finer Moments amazon.com = $23.27 amazon.co.uk = £23.95
Läther amazon.com = $34.37 amazon.co.uk = £13.20

That is so back to front it's totally bizarre.

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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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What's with the pricing situation?!

Finer Moments amazon.com = $23.27 amazon.co.uk = £23.95
Läther amazon.com = $34.37 amazon.co.uk = £13.20

That is so back to front it's totally bizarre.


Looks like their Dynamic Pricing has some really Fuzzy Logic behind it.


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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:05 pm 
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Achtung aufgepasst
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Neuland selbst für den akribischsten Frank Zappa-Fan: Finer Moments ist eine Live-Compilation, die Zappa 1972-1973 zusammenstellte – und dann in seinem Archiv vergaß? Keiner kann das heute noch wissen! Zappa werkelte bis zu 18 Stunden täglich dort herum, wenn er nicht auf Tour war. Hunderte Stunden Musik warten dort immer noch darauf, ans Tageslicht zu gelangen, zur Freude seiner Fans.
Die vorliegenden 13 Live-Aufnahmen mit den Mothers of Invention stammen von 1969 bis 1972. „Finer Moments“ ist quasi der Prototyp von Zappas gefeierter You Can´t Do That On Stage Any More-Serie, auf der er fünfzehn Jahre später zahlreiche Live-Mitschnitte veröffentlichte. Genie und Wahnsinn seiner frühen Karriere mit den Mothers of Invention erleben auf Finer Moments eine weitere Blüte.

And here's ze german lunch condensed into the hard facts:
"Forgotten live compilation put together in 1972/73, 13 live tracks with the Mothers of Invention (sic!) recorded in 1969 thru 1972, quasi-YCDTOSA 'prototype'". Now I'm goin' to blow Bobby.


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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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buffalo_voice wrote:
Achtung aufgepasst
amazon.de wrote:
Neuland selbst für den akribischsten Frank Zappa-Fan: Finer Moments ist eine Live-Compilation, die Zappa 1972-1973 zusammenstellte – und dann in seinem Archiv vergaß? Keiner kann das heute noch wissen! Zappa werkelte bis zu 18 Stunden täglich dort herum, wenn er nicht auf Tour war. Hunderte Stunden Musik warten dort immer noch darauf, ans Tageslicht zu gelangen, zur Freude seiner Fans.
Die vorliegenden 13 Live-Aufnahmen mit den Mothers of Invention stammen von 1969 bis 1972. „Finer Moments“ ist quasi der Prototyp von Zappas gefeierter You Can´t Do That On Stage Any More-Serie, auf der er fünfzehn Jahre später zahlreiche Live-Mitschnitte veröffentlichte. Genie und Wahnsinn seiner frühen Karriere mit den Mothers of Invention erleben auf Finer Moments eine weitere Blüte.


Klasse! Danke fuer den Nachricht.


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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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Google translate has it like this:

New territory even for the akribischsten Frank Zappa fan: Finer Moments is a live compilation that Zappa compiled 1972-1973 - and then forgot in his archives? No one can know today! Zappa would spend up to 18 hours a day around there when he was not on tour. Hundreds of hours of music waiting there still waiting for the light of day, to the delight of his fans.
The present 13 live recordings with the Mothers of Invention are from 1969 to 1972. "Finer Moments" is almost the prototype of acclaimed Zappa You Can not Do That On Stage Any More series, on which he published fifteen years later many live recordings. Genius and madness of his early career with the Mothers of Invention Finer Moments experience on another flower.

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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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mistrijah wrote:
Google translate has it like this:

New territory even for the akribischsten Frank Zappa fan: Finer Moments is a live compilation that Zappa compiled 1972-1973 - and then forgot in his archives? No one can know today! Zappa would spend up to 18 hours a day around there when he was not on tour. Hundreds of hours of music waiting there still waiting for the light of day, to the delight of his fans.
The present 13 live recordings with the Mothers of Invention are from 1969 to 1972. "Finer Moments" is almost the prototype of acclaimed Zappa You Can not Do That On Stage Any More series, on which he published fifteen years later many live recordings. Genius and madness of his early career with the Mothers of Invention Finer Moments experience on another flower.


If that is what this ends up being, I am all for it.
Sounds like it could be part of what was supposed to be The History & Collected Improvisations of the Mothers of Invention

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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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With Feeding the Monkees.. and this one released within, uh, what is it -- 14 months [?], and the pending Dance Me This for early next year (he he!), the vaultmeister is about to stir up one hell of an excitement over here at buffalo voice headquarters. Thank you, Joe!
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Now with track timings, according to amazon.de:

1. Intro 1:20
2. Sleazette 3:33
3. Mozart Piano Sonata In Bb 6:21
4. The Walking Zombie Music 3:23
5. The Old Curiosity Shoppe 7:07
6. You Never Know Who Your Friends Are 2:20
7. Uncle Rhebus 17:45

1. Music From The Big Squeeze 0:42
2. Enigmas 1 Thru 5 8:15
3. Pumped And Waxed 4:19
4. There Is No Heaven From Where Slogans Go To Die 4:37
5. Squeeze It, Squeeze It, Squeeze It 3:17
6. The Subcutaneous Peril 19:41


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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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Prime 69-72 Mothers? 2-CD set? YES PLEASE!


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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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You can pre-order it for £15.72 here http://www.wowhd.co.uk/CD/frank-zappa-f ... 73#bc=96b1 today only.
I also noticed this http://www.wowhd.co.uk/CD/frank-zappa-m ... 21#bc=14af a bargain at £7.22.
There is 15% off everything today with free delivery so if you need any of the reissues this looks like a good place to grab them.


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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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Prime 69-72 Mothers? 2-CD set? YES PLEASE!



Yes yes yes! Gonna pre-order soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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As we already have seen - Understanding America really only has 1 unique track.


which one ??

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I LIKE THE COVER ART. IT'S GOT NICE COLORS.
yep i like it 2 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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SonofSuzyCreamcheese wrote:
ursinator wrote:
... If anyone has experiences with this distributor, please report.

WowHD are okay. Slow deliveries, but low prices and no shipping fee. :)

k.vee wrote:
I bought some fz remasters from wowhd. but you have to be very patient - delivery is really slow! 3 weeks to italy!

Thnx, now i just need some €€€ to try.
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Bobby wrote:
As we already have seen - Understanding America really only has 1 unique track.


which one ??

The album is discussed in its own thread:http://www.zappa.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23725
only very few new moments on pornwars deluxe, mostly spoken words material by PMRC-people.
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And here's ze german lunch condensed into the hard facts:
"Forgotten live compilation put together in 1972/73, 13 live tracks with the Mothers of Invention (sic!) recorded in 1969 thru 1972, quasi-YCDTOSA 'prototype'". Now I'm goin' to blow Bobby.
If this album is really kind of blue print of the YCDTOSA-series, then we should expect some overlaps: would be surprised if Mozart piano sonata for instance was a different version than the one on YCDTOSA.

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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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I'm hoping it's his brief polka phase.

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Bobby wrote:
As we already have seen - Understanding America really only has 1 unique track.


which one ??

The album is discussed in its own thread:http://www.zappa.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23725
only very few new moments on pornwars deluxe, mostly spoken words material by PMRC-people.
Ok thanks

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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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Pre-order price for this title has dropped drastically- to £12.18- on Amazon UK, for those who may not yet of realised. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Finer Moments
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A very cool thing about Amazon is their preorder price guarantee, so I didn't sweat it and just hit the button.

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ZutboF wrote:
Bobby wrote:
As we already have seen - Understanding America really only has 1 unique track.


which one ??


You know... the last tour
You know... Leather


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polydigm wrote:
A very cool thing about Amazon is their preorder price guarantee, so I didn't sweat it and just hit the button.


Of course/fair comment; my post was more to be informative in relation to the recent WowHD (seemingly great price) exposure.


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... Yes! There will be a vinyl edition of this title...

how many minutes per side ?

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I preordered this with Lather (no umlaut on the cell phone) - at the current prices it's a nobrainer. If they issue the eightsided vinyl album I will give the CD of L to my brother 8)

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slime.oofytv.set wrote:
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... Yes! There will be a vinyl edition of this title...

how many minutes per side ?


Not more than 20 :mrgreen:

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