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Heck - just acknowledge that they once existed and did add a little to the image to the Mothers - especially Ray Collins - he was close to Frank before Mothers - he got him an invite into joining the Soul Giants and he has been virtually invisable in the entire Grandmothers/post Zappa controversy.

Been listening to the 80ish remastered Ruben and if you put aside the "new" (after over 25 years is it still new?) bass, drums and reverb - it is a great lp - love the vocals between Ray, Roy and Frank.

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Thanks for the music Frank.

Well I'm about to get sick from watching my TV

Fate is a bummer: JCB - died of cancer in 2008, Motorhead - passed away last Xmas, Roy - I suppose you could say he's morally dead as he's a convicted paedophile and serving time, and now we're losing Ray too. Buzz, the 1969 era trumpeter died in 2004, not to mention Lowell having passed away as early as 1979.

It's quite remarkable that Don and Bunk, ages 80 and 79 respectively, are still alive and well. Maybe macrobiotic food has preserved our dear Donnie well? Maybe he'll live as old as Slonimsky?

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I was lucky to see Don Preston last aug.when he was still a young 79.NMB & Tom Fowler kidded him about turning into an 80yr. old GrandMother.Great guy who some think wrote some of King Kong with FZ.He's still rockin' and playing with the latest in music gadgets that sometimes blow up on stage* I even go see Ike once every 3-4 years.We're lucky FZ had so many Mothers who we can still see now.Like Steve Via and Mike Kennely(?) Jon-Luc Ponty,Chad Wackerman,Ed Mann,Terry Bozio,Ed Palarmo,Adrain Belew....ect,ect,ect.It would be nice to have them all together at one place all playing for me.Everything FZ I want for twenty four hours! You guys & gals can come too of course.

I hope Gail and the ZFT put up a tribute for Ray on the page with Motorhead Sherwood and Capt.Beefheart.Something more is deserved for this original Mother of Invention that helped make Frank famous.



*see a GrandMothers gig,Don's got cool props..We're lucky FZ picked such durable musicians.

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RIP Ray Collins
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=141414819345109&set=a.141414799345111.32190.133681040118487&type=1&theater

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Adios, Ray. See you next time around.

So long Mother Ray

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Thanks for the music Frank.

Well I'm about to get sick from watching my TV

This is so sad...

Goodbye Ray!

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El Bummo man.

It sucks that the picture of him on FB has his birth and death date,then on the side a "like" button next to the comments one.Who the hell likes death? Do you like to know that Rays dead,it's like liking the obits fer christ sakes....FB wants to know who likes people that just passed away,I guess.Love Ray,don't like the fact that he's passed.

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Yeah, that's a problem with FB, that quite often the content that is posted is in fact worthy of dis-like. But another way to interpret the likes is that the people like to honour the memory of their favourite singer, or that's what I hope is the case anyway.

But it seems the photo has got the birth year wrong, isn't it 1936, rather than '39?

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Ya,it's 36 I believe.If you find the United Mutations site,that seems to be maintained by his neice Shay Collins,there is an astric* by the year he was born too.But it does say '36.There's some good articles about him and his discography is there also.I'm sure you can find it through wiki.Theres quite a few Ray Collins' he's the one that looks like a Mother.The long hair helps too. Sorry,I should of written down the link. {-

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RIP RAY!

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Henceforth I propose December 24th as Ray Day on the forum.

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I 2nd that emotion.Hip Hip,who Ray?



To soon?

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Nah Kirk, made me smile... I'll second that emotion!

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Damn. He was one of the best vocalists of all time.

RIP, Ray.

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Sorry to see you go Ray.

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Yep the best voice zappa ever had

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Keep the great work!

"...and we're thrilled and delighted to have with us on the bandstand once again none other than the dynamic Mr. Raymond Eugene Collins!"
(Frank Zappa on stage 1970-05-09 at Fillmore East, NYC)

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Thanks Ray, Rest in Peace. My true condolences to family and friends...

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sad

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/27/arts/music/ray-collins-of-the-mothers-of-invention-dies.html?_r=0&adxnnl=1&ref=arts&adxnnlx=1356656189-PedFwZROx2GbYi0mUUB9Ug

William Yardley gives Ray a decent send off.Thanks for that link jk666.Ray was the real pachuco in the band,especialy about his music.Frank must of had a good relationship with RC to be able to call him up and have him on a new project like Lather years later.
By luck or by fate,Ray Collins made Frank Zappa famous.FZ would have gotten there somehow anyway,but RC made it alot easier.Imagine Frank trying to put a band together to play Freak Out! in '64 -'65. Even in those daze,musicians wanted money and playing original music was not the way to make a living when your a jazz/rock and doo-wop musician.Being in a cover band payed the bills!
Thanx for the music and Frank Zappa,Ray Collins.Peace be with you.
We need some more like that in this kinda world!

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Oh no I can't believe it,, MSNBC.com actually has a mention of Ray Collins,,,,

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Here's a interview with Ray Collins from 2009
http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_12484780