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Obama shows his true Socialist colours by picking a Republican as his defence secretary.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/ ... 45903.html

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Delta Air Lines crushes $10,000 vintage guitar

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Obama shows his true Socialist colours by picking a Republican as his defence secretary.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/ ... 45903.html


I don't see how that's a contradiction?

Anyway, it's good to know he'll continue bombing the shit out of Middle Eastern countries (adding to his $6 trillion+ debt), while collateral damage claims the lives of THOUSANDS of innocent civilians...

But we need stricter gun control laws, don't we?!

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Delta Air Lines crushes $10,000 vintage guitar

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New IMF study suggests that Keynes is correct and austerity a failure in a recession.

http://www.businessinsider.com/imf-admi ... ong-2013-1

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The A.I.G apologizes to the American people and more! Boehner apologizes to the 1.5% of rich folks who's taxes were slightly raised, "He feels they're pain".As he cry's openly. :shock: :lol:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/


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The A.I.G apologizes to the American people...
Boo hoo hoo! We are sooooooooooooo sorry!
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The move comes as the insurance giant tries to boost its image with ads thanking America for the $182-billion bailout. Critics say it shows chutzpah.

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New IMF study suggests that Keynes is correct and austerity a failure in a recession.

http://www.businessinsider.com/imf-admi ... ong-2013-1


I knew the above report was mostly bogus as soon as I read this:

"...According to Keynesian theory (which got us out of the Great Depression)..." :roll:

I think they meant, "...According to Keynesian theory (which got us into the Great Depression)..."

And of course, this current Housing Bubble Crisis would have NEVER happened if we truly lived in a Capitalist Economy with free markets and/or free market principles (without almost no Government interference and no bailouts), like US Presidents Harding & Coolidge adopted - which of course contributed to the MASSIVE economic boom of The Roaring Twenties (as did Mussolini's Italy of the early-mid 1920s). A Mixed Economy (which is what we live in today) is one of the primary reasons for this economic mess. And it's a shame most people don't even know that we don't technically live in a Capitalist Economy.

And as long as most people remain politically ignorant and continue electing these Corporate whores (like Romney, Obama and the like), Corporatism will always be able to grease Government and indemnify themselves instead of the public & reign supreme...and grab their bailout money too, after they're allowed to create bubble crisises... :wink:

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New IMF study suggests that Keynes is correct and austerity a failure in a recession.

http://www.businessinsider.com/imf-admi ... ong-2013-1


I knew the above report was mostly bogus as soon as I read this:

"...According to Keynesian theory (which got us out of the Great Depression)..." :roll:

I think they meant, "...According to Keynesian theory (which got us into the Great Depression)..."

And of course, this current Housing Bubble Crisis would have NEVER happened if we truly lived in a Capitalist Economy with free markets and/or free market principles (without almost no Government interference and no bailouts), like US Presidents Harding & Coolidge adopted - which of course contributed to the MASSIVE economic boom of The Roaring Twenties (as did Mussolini's Italy of the early-mid 1920s). A Mixed Economy (which is what we live in today) is one of the primary reasons for this economic mess. And it's a shame most people don't even know that we don't technically live in a Capitalist Economy.

And as long as most people remain politically ignorant and continue electing these Corporate whores (like Romney, Obama and the like), Corporatism will always be able to grease Government and indemnify themselves instead of the public & reign supreme...and grab their bailout money too, after they're allowed to create bubble crisises... :wink:


Just to stress, the above link is an (admittedly partisan) report on the IMF study. The actual IMF study can be found here: http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2013/wp1301.pdf. It's rather long, though.
Some people might argue that, once again, you are representing an economic-historical theory (what some might call a possibly well-founded opinion) as FACT here. Just to make clear again - there are other well-founded opinions around, some of which can be found summarized here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_ ... Depression.
I do find it rather interesting that you appear to be suggesting that Mussolini's Fascist economic policy is something to be emulated - though perhaps you aren't and I'm misinterpreting again.

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The USA is emulating Mussolini's economics. It goes like this: profits to the corporations, losses to the people. Every time we bail out a bank or corporation, we are following this elitist play card..."screw the people, give it all to us".

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My understanding of DB's post, Rope, was that what he was saying was that Mussolini's Italy in the 20s had a truly capitalist economy and was thus successful - but, as I say, perhaps I've misunderstood him.

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Boris has an amazingly varied sex life (according to the tabloids).

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Nobody likes to blow their own trumpet - unless they're really desperate. :wink:

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Nobody likes to blow their own trumpet - unless they're really desperate. :wink:

But it's still OK to have a strumpet blow your trumpet. :)

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The boom of the Twenties was a worldwide speculation bubble. It popped rather horribly all over the Earth, but it wasn't really by surprise. Free markets are an ideal. The fact is the markets are run by certain human beings, corporations, businesses, banks all free to gamble that the pool will stay full, and to lure uneducated suckers into the pool whereupon it is drained.

The truth is that our fractional reserve system creates worth by hype and speculation, making opportunity for persons to buy and sell as a way of enriching themselves. Eventually, the debts born of these speculations bear weight upon the actual value of assets, causing the fairy tale of invisible wealth to be told and spoken. Then, suddenly, your shit isn't worth shit, because that was all fictional valuation.

It's only worth what someone can and will pay for it. When the price of shit starts dropping because no one has any money to buy anything with, that's when we worry.

I believe this happened in Europe. I could go on, but I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.


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This "comedian" calmly explains why persons such as myself and Disco Boy are so distrustful of the current reality.

http://dailybail.com/home/comedian-bill ... -ndaa.html

SPACEBROTHER, plook, and other such adherents to media-based reality should watch this. This guy pretty much says all I think needs to be said. If you guys watch this, and then understand, maybe we can end all this ugliness between us.


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This "comedian" calmly explains why persons such as myself and Disco Boy are so distrustful of the current reality.

http://dailybail.com/home/comedian-bill ... -ndaa.html

SPACEBROTHER, plook, and other such adherents to media-based reality should watch this. This guy pretty much says all I think needs to be said. If you guys watch this, and then understand, maybe we can end all this ugliness between us.



Easy there Tiger, I say and always have said its 100% utter rubbish, a scam so to speak. I select the leaser of two evils (which do not differ a whole hell of a lot) in order to avoid the knuckleheads who want to take it down and have no idea of the level of disaster they would bring on...you might as well just whack the planet with a survivable asteroid strike, you lose 30% to 50% population if not more and throw us back to the dark ages and will probably end up with Talban like Muslim rule in most of the world.

Just remember who really owns this planet and hope they don’t show up and put their foot down... :smoke:


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Just remember who really owns this planet and hope they don’t show up and put their foot down...

The Venusians?

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KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
Plook wrote:
Just remember who really owns this planet and hope they don’t show up and put their foot down...

The Venusians?

I just want to know who will own the Sacramento Kings next year.


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KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
Plook wrote:
Just remember who really owns this planet and hope they don’t show up and put their foot down...

The Venusians?

I just want to know who will own the Sacramento Kings next year.

The Sonics left awhile ago and the Seattle fan base and city government have banned together to pass a bond for a new stadium and are fishing for a team.Oop's thats Sacramento and it failed. If Seattle had built the stadium in the first place the Sonics wouldn't have left.Same with Kings. :roll:
Sacramento could learn a lesson the hard way on this,I'm afraid.In these times it's hard to say build it and they will come.Up in Seattle it rains so much basket ball is such a good fit and you have the little Gates community,Micro-soft and Boeing' there also for fan base $upport.Traffic's gonna be a big problem for Seattle if the staduim goes in where they want it as of now and they'll have a hedge-fund millionare for a boss.What a guy too. :roll:
I don't see the Maloofs staying in Sac.without some kind of 20-30 yr.package of new stadium and more revenues.They're some greedy bastards that own the teams.Some nuts,some not.But in biz ya takes what the markets will bare! :|

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Caputh wrote:
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Caputh wrote:
New IMF study suggests that Keynes is correct and austerity a failure in a recession.

http://www.businessinsider.com/imf-admi ... ong-2013-1


I knew the above report was mostly bogus as soon as I read this:

"...According to Keynesian theory (which got us out of the Great Depression)..." :roll:

I think they meant, "...According to Keynesian theory (which got us into the Great Depression)..."

And of course, this current Housing Bubble Crisis would have NEVER happened if we truly lived in a Capitalist Economy with free markets and/or free market principles (without almost no Government interference and no bailouts), like US Presidents Harding & Coolidge adopted - which of course contributed to the MASSIVE economic boom of The Roaring Twenties (as did Mussolini's Italy of the early-mid 1920s). A Mixed Economy (which is what we live in today) is one of the primary reasons for this economic mess. And it's a shame most people don't even know that we don't technically live in a Capitalist Economy.

And as long as most people remain politically ignorant and continue electing these Corporate whores (like Romney, Obama and the like), Corporatism will always be able to grease Government and indemnify themselves instead of the public & reign supreme...and grab their bailout money too, after they're allowed to create bubble crisises... :wink:


Just to stress, the above link is an (admittedly partisan) report on the IMF study. The actual IMF study can be found here: http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2013/wp1301.pdf. It's rather long, though.
Some people might argue that, once again, you are representing an economic-historical theory (what some might call a possibly well-founded opinion) as FACT here. Just to make clear again - there are other well-founded opinions around, some of which can be found summarized here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_ ... Depression.
I do find it rather interesting that you appear to be suggesting that Mussolini's Fascist economic policy is something to be emulated - though perhaps you aren't and I'm misinterpreting again.


Give me a break. We've already been over this.

Re-read my posts from page 37 of the Ron Paul thread:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=19887&p=563990#p563990

A rope leash wrote:
The USA is emulating Mussolini's economics. It goes like this: profits to the corporations, losses to the people. Every time we bail out a bank or corporation, we are following this elitist play card..."screw the people, give it all to us".

Or else.


Well, I guess you're referring to the majority of Mussollini's reign? Because technically, from 1921-1925, Alberto De Stefani (Mussolini's Minster Of Finance) helped Mussolini adopted free market principles in Italy, which contributed to a major economic boom, similar to The Roaring Twenties in the US. And it wasn't because he necessarily liked the idea. It was established to get the public back on his side. Otherwise, he may not have lasted much longer. But once Mussolini ended the system of free market principles in 1925 and fired Stefani, everything went back to shit in Italy, just like it was right after World War I...

The above info is included in the link I posted for Caputh (which he initially posted) to re-read on page 37 of the Ron Paul thread...

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Well, I guess you're referring to the majority of Mussollini's reign? Because technically, from 1921-1925, Alberto De Stefani (Mussolini's Minster Of Finance) helped Mussolini adopted free market principles in Italy, which contributed to a major economic boom, similar to The Roaring Twenties in the US. And it wasn't because he necessarily liked the idea. It was established to get the public back on his side. Otherwise, he may not have lasted much longer. But once Mussolini ended the system of free market principles in 1925 and fired Stefani, everything went back to shit in Italy, just like it was right after World War I...

The above info is included in the link I posted for Caputh (which he initially posted) to re-read on page 37 of the Ron Paul thread...


So therefore I can according to your logic, legitimately refer to any any particularly capitalist economic policy as truly fascist?

BTW you have yet to establish that what you wrote on the roaring 20s is FACT. It is an opinion supported by some facts. There are other opinions around that are also supported by some facts. Just because you don't like them, does not mean that you have in any way disproved them merely by negating them, or calling them socialist, which up until now is all you've done. Yet again.

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