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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:25 am 
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Meanwhile back at the ranch..


...the socialists are cooking dinner. Fried $20 bills with gravy and a side of welfare chips. The ranch has turned into a ghetto but no one has noticed yet. They are all too busy arguing over facts.


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So if you think racism is not an issue and your white,

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Plook, what the fuck? Your statement is racist. You're singling out a specific race and stigmatizing it. That's called Racism. Cut it out.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:38 am 
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She described the Civil Rights movement as collectivists, and she described collectivists as barnyard animals. I would say, you do the math, but we all already know that your math skills are fuzzy at best*. (* see posts in thread where he claimed Ron paul would easily get 10 million votes in the primaries)


You still don't get it, do ya? Her point was that Collectivism/Socialism is what rots society away to the core, not Individualism/Capitalism. History also shows, if not PROVES this.

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Face it Honey Boo Boo, you're making this shit up as you go along. You've been proven wrong by several people here, besides myself, who have opted to chime in. You lose.

Checkmate

To borrow a slam from jaypfunk - go get your shinebox shmuck


Give me a fucking break.

Face it, moron...you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about and think EVERYONE who isn't a Democrat or a Socialist is a racist.

And btw, I like said, I made an error and I admitted it. Which is MUCH more than what I can say about you and your COUNTLESS errors of judgement, interpretation and sheer stupidity and ignorance, etc. :roll:

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So that shitty book sold alot, so what? Lots of books have had huge printings, so by that logic we should love the Bible, the Koran and the Communist Manifesto too?

Here's what Wiki considers alot of books, (yes I know, not novels, why that is considered important, I have no idea):

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[hide] 1 List of best-selling single-volume books 1.1 More than 100 million copies
1.2 Between 50 million and 100 million copies
1.3 Between 30 million and 50 million copies
1.4 Between 20 million and 30 million copies
1.5 Between 10 million and 20 million copies
1.6 No reliable sales figures

2 List of best-selling book series 2.1 At least 100 million copies
2.2 Between 50 million and 100 million copies
2.3 Between 30 million and 50 million copies
2.4 Between 20 million and 30 million copies
2.5 Between 15 million and 20 million copies
2.6 Notes

3 List of best-selling regularly updated books 3.1 More than 100 million copies
3.2 Between 50 million and 100 million copies
3.3 Between 30 million and 50 million copies
3.4 Between 20 million and 30 million copies
3.5 Between 10 million and 20 million copies

4 See also
5 References
6 External links


You can see that when it comes to books, 9 million isn't even on the radar.

I don't rate books by how they sold, but since some people seem to I thought that'd be fun.

Oh, yeah... Every book that has ever sold is one of the best selling books of all time.


The sales info was basically only a footnote to my overall point. And the novel comment was to show that not all books are classified the same and that of course reduces the amount of books on the list that tweedle-dumb posted. :roll:

And that "shitty" book, which is about the evils of Socialism and Government interference in the markets, essentially predicted the Housing Bubble Crisis that we're STILL currently in, genius. Not that I agree with all of Ayn Rand's ideologies, but her economic understanding was DEAD ON. And that "shitty" book PROVES it. And the sad thing is, in the near future, things are only going to get worse since the type of Mixed Economy we live in today is probably here to stay due to Socialism policies that allow Corporatism's stranglehold over Government and the economically ignorant (the majority) who think Capitalism was the sole cause of this mess...

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Personally, I found the fountainhead to be a bore, rand to be loathsome and the principles she espouses to be nothing more than tools that rationalize the lives of the selfish.


By that description, I don't think you have the slightest understanding of Ayn's philosophies...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:38 am 
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Well thats a problem DB. I've tried to stay on good terms with you despite our very different political slants, but you are just being a dick. Calling me a genius isn't just messing around, its being a dick and you know it. I've known you long enough to know that you understand how to communicate on the forum so you know very well that you are being a dick.
I don't care if you believe that I understand Rand. I don't feel the need to prove that to you or anyone else. The FACT, as you like to hyperbolize, is that we don't agree. Such things are possible despite the world being black and white to you. You use the words FACT and PROVE far more often than you utilize facts to prove anything.

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http://www.activistpost.com/2013/01/cal ... -left.html

...an essay on how the "anti-war" left has been silent on Obama's war mongering.

Just to back up what i was saying about Obama being rather Bush-like, but because he's a Democrat, the lefties let him get away with murder.

Core problem in American thinking.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:57 am 
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Honey Boo Boo wrote:
SPACEBROTHER wrote:
She described the Civil Rights movement as collectivists, and she described collectivists as barnyard animals. I would say, you do the math, but we all already know that your math skills are fuzzy at best*. (* see posts in thread where he claimed Ron paul would easily get 10 million votes in the primaries)


You still don't get it, do ya? Her point was that Collectivism/Socialism is what rots society away to the core, not Individualism/Capitalism. History also shows, if not PROVES this.

She calls Collectivists "barnyard animals", and she calls "The Civil Rights Movement", "Collectivists". Tell me you aren't that dense.

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Face it, moron...you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about and think EVERYONE who isn't a Democrat or a Socialist is a racist.

And btw, I like said, I made an error and I admitted it. Which is MUCH more than what I can say about you and your COUNTLESS errors of judgement, interpretation and sheer stupidity and ignorance, etc. :roll:


Arkay is right. You're a dick. You're a dick that is wrong most of the time.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:42 pm 
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Ronald Noomies wrote:
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The two party system is bought out and has failed. Americans need more choices than the "Right" and "Left."


Tell it to Ron Paul :roll:

I've been hearing that shit since the 60's and it will NEVER happen....
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If you wait long enough, miracles can happen; I actually agree with Pedro!!!!!!!!



Glad that I can make you and Spacer smile for a change 8)


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A rope leash wrote:
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/01/calling-out-hypocritical-war-loving-left.html

...an essay on how the "anti-war" left has been silent on Obama's war mongering.

Just to back up what i was saying about Obama being rather Bush-like, but because he's a Democrat, the lefties let him get away with murder.

Core problem in American thinking.



Your mistake rope, and it is a huge one, is to believe that the Muslims are less of a threat to the US then they are.

I am not saying all, but the bad ones seem to always run the countries and have the will to wipe us out at all costs and these countries harbor our enemy.

Their mission is to convert or to kill, we are at war with these Terrorists, they choose to run and hide amongst the people. The people have chosen to harbor the enemy combatants, the people have put themselves and their children on the battlefield, if these innocent people were so good they would turn the Terrorists in.

You have no idea how quick they would cut your throat just because you are an American, they hate you and they want you dead and if they could take a school full of children while they did, that would be better yet.

War is hell and collateral damage is a part of it, the Terrorist got plenty collateral damage in their many attacks around the world. They don’t care, if they did they would not hide among the people, the reason they do is they are cowards who do not care.

So put the collateral damage blame where it belongs, with the Terrorists… :smoke:


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Ronny's Noomies wrote:
If you wait long enough, miracles can happen; I actually agree with Pedro!!!!!!!!


Glad that I can make you and Spacer smile for a change 8)


I didn't say you made me smile.

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The big-bad Muslim army gonna come get us, plook?

Your paranoid bigotry is spellbinding.

People deserve to die because they did not turn in the Muslim extremists in their neighborhood? Turn them in to whom? Why would the whom take their word for it? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Do you actually think that there are enough "terrorists" hiding "among the people" to ever threaten the citizens of the United States in a serious way? They don't just hate us because we are infidels, but because we are infidels that have been fucking around in their countries for decades. Of course there is going to be terror...but we are never going to weed out all the terrorists, because every time we ham-handedly kill someone's loved-one on our way to get the "bad guy", we create another angry person out to get revenge. We will never get rid of terrorism (it's a tactic, not a lifestyle), and chickenshit drone attacks do nothing to help us quell the anger.

Anyway, you shouldn't be so frightened. The entire military industrial complex is there to defend you from some guys and their kids who would maybe like to get over here and cut your throat because Mohammed told them to.














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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:33 pm 
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Ronny's Noomies wrote:
pedro2 wrote:

Ronny's Noomies wrote:
If you wait long enough, miracles can happen; I actually agree with Pedro!!!!!!!!


Glad that I can make you and Spacer smile for a change 8)


I didn't say you made me smile.




Jeezus Fukin Keriste ... Do you try to pick a fight everywhere you go ?

You just burst my bubble on my thinking of rational , considerate , open minded lefties that MIGHT have a sense of humanity in them , or even a sense of humor , at least.

But , no . Again you proved they can be assholes , as well. :|


I'm glad you found my post offensive.

Better Ron ? :P


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Rope the most popular game amongst Palestinian Children is a game called "Kill the Jew", one unfortunate plays the Jew and the rest spend as much time and effort as needed to locate him to "kill" him.

These children are from 5 to 12, the older ones are already being armed and trained by Hamas for actual Terrorist activities.

To these people Americans are second only to Jews, no no problem there... :smoke:


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Rope the most popular game among Palestinian Children is a game called "Kill the Jew",



And some people here think that racism is only black and white. :wink:


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pedro2 wrote:
Ronny's Noomies wrote:

I didn't say you made me smile.


Jeezus Fukin Keriste ... Do you try to pick a fight everywhere you go ?

You just burst my bubble on my thinking of rational , considerate , open minded lefties that MIGHT have a sense of humanity in them , or even a sense of humor , at least.

But , no . Again you proved they can be assholes , as well. :|


I'm glad you found my post offensive.

Better Ron ? :P

Didn't mean to strike a nerve. All I did was correct the record, P. Don't make more out of it than that.

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Right :roll:


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The Forum Killed Arkay wrote:
Well thats a problem DB. I've tried to stay on good terms with you despite our very different political slants, but you are just being a dick. Calling me a genius isn't just messing around, its being a dick and you know it. I've known you long enough to know that you understand how to communicate on the forum so you know very well that you are being a dick.
I don't care if you believe that I understand Rand. I don't feel the need to prove that to you or anyone else. The FACT, as you like to hyperbolize, is that we don't agree. Such things are possible despite the world being black and white to you. You use the words FACT and PROVE far more often than you utilize facts to prove anything.


I'm being a dick because I sarcastically called you "genius"? This is a joke, right?

Because YOU are the one who made an issue out of my book sales error and didn't understand that it was essentially only a footnote and went to the trouble of creating a lengthy post about it.

The world is not black and white to me, nor have I ever stated or implied that.

I usually use words like FACT and PROVE whenever I provide FACTS and PROOF backing up my points. It is a FACT that Ayn Rand predicted the current financial crisis (that resulted in the form of the Housing Bubble Crisis) in Atlas Shrugged. It is also a FACT that if we didn't live in this type of Mixed Economy, which due to its Socialist policies that allow Corporatism's stranglehold over Government and Government interference and bailouts in the markets, the Housing Bubble Crisis would have NEVER happened and we wouldn't be in this particular mess. It is also a FACT that Socialism has NEVER worked well in ANY country.

You act like your shit don't stink, when it actually REEKS.

And here's another FACT: YOU are the one being a "dick".

Next time, get your FACTS straight. :roll:

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http://www.activistpost.com/2013/01/calling-out-hypocritical-war-loving-left.html

...an essay on how the "anti-war" left has been silent on Obama's war mongering.

Just to back up what i was saying about Obama being rather Bush-like, but because he's a Democrat, the lefties let him get away with murder.

Core problem in American thinking.


FACT.

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She calls Collectivists "barnyard animals", and she calls "The Civil Rights Movement", "Collectivists". Tell me you aren't that dense.


Not everyone that was part of the Civil Rights Movement was black, moron.

ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

Her point was that Collectivism/Socialism is what rots society away to the core, not Individualism/Capitalism. History also shows, if not PROVES this.

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Arkay is right. You're a dick. You're a dick that is wrong most of the time.


No, he is not. And no, I am not. I don't disrespect ANYONE here who doesn't already have it coming. And much of the time, I'm on the defensive if insults are thrown.

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I was just saying we need more major parties, I know the shit won't happen because of the money and everything mixed into our government. I'm just saying it would be nice to have more choices, I don't expect it though.

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Honey Boo Boo wrote:
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She calls Collectivists "barnyard animals", and she calls "The Civil Rights Movement", "Collectivists". Tell me you aren't that dense.


Not everyone that was part of the Civil Rights Movement was black, moron.
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I never claimed that there were only black people in the Civil Rights Movement, and has nothing directly to do with the point I made to you. Iguess you really are that dense.

Honey Boo Boo wrote:
ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

Her point was that Collectivism/Socialism is what rots society away to the core, not Individualism/Capitalism. History also shows, if not PROVES this.


She equated the Civil Rights Movement as Collectivist "barnyard animals".


Here's a quote of hers that seems to fit you well...(regarding her views of Civil Rights)

[quote"Ayn Rand"]Needless to say, if that “civil rights” bill is passed, it will be the worst breach of property rights in the sorry record of American history in respect to that subject.

It is an ironic demonstration of the philosophic insanity and the consequently suicidal trend of our age, that the men who need the protection of individual rights most urgently—the Negroes—are now in the vanguard of the destruction of these rights.

A word of warning: do not become victims of the same racists by succumbing to racism; do not hold against all Negroes the disgraceful irrationality of some of their leaders. No group has any proper intellectual leadership today or any proper representation.


Her intentions and views are LOUD AND CLEAR. I'm sure you'll respond with some dickhead retort.

I'll just add this to the ever growing list of you repeatedly being proven wrong.


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DB, your last post was just a dick getting bigger. I may not be right about any number of political concepts, and my shit may well reek, but seriously, I'm telling you as someone who wanted to think of you as a friend - you are being a dick, so if you want to continue to declare your opinions as fact and everyone else as stupid for not agreeing with you, then you've made your own bed. Seriously, this battle is not worth the anger and bile you are putting into it.

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The Forum Killed Arkay wrote:
DB, your last post was just a dick getting bigger. I may not be right about any number of political concepts, and my shit may well reek, but seriously, I'm telling you as someone who wanted to think of you as a friend - you are being a dick, so if you want to continue to declare your opinions as fact and everyone else as stupid for not agreeing with you, then you've made your own bed. Seriously, this battle is not worth the anger and bile you are putting into it.


DB, RK is on the money here. I used to like and respect you on this forum, but you now seem quite irrational...no joking. you have strong beliefs...fair enough, but others have opinions also. who's to say you are right and they are wrong? not you surely, as you (and they) are biased like that. the whole "ron paul/not ron paul" argument is dead. he ain't coming back regardless of what you think of him.

you can bag me now if you like. it doesn't matter to me. why not move on to more serious concerns, like the health of the environment or native species habitat destruction, or NFL or something...


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Why pick on Disco Boy? SPACEBROTHER is just as dickish.

plook, "kill the jew" is the favorite game of Palestinian kids? Who told you that? If true, why do you think that would be the favorite game? Because they are irrational religious nuts? Or because Israel took everything they have and destroyed their lives?


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rope, I have no problem with you, so I don't know why you are pretending that Disco Boy isn't being a dick. I have no problem with Spacebrother because he isn't being a dick to me.

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SPACEBROTHER is being a dick to me, then.

It's bad when debate gets so personal. Disco Boy has a problem with angry name calling...I see that...but SPACEBROTHER's "you're a racist" innuendo is getting a little to thick for my taste.

Obviously, both of these posters believe they are correct at all costs. I'm in Disco Boy's camp politically, and I think that SPACEBROTHER is woefully brainwashed. Both, however, kind of act like children.

Not sure why I bother.

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Cool rope... Everyone can fight their own battles.

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