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An American toddler who was born with HIV, seems to be cured after an intensive treatment of the virus.

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I read that in the paper this morning, if it holds it would be only the second person to be confirmed as cured of HIV, they say it will be big do'ins...

If it's curable then it's not the same AIDS that we all know. Doctors in the future will have to find a new name for whatever disease that little girl had.

Don't you think it's interesting that when the child stopped going for treatments that's when her so called AIDS disappeared? Crazy.

I've provided more than an abundance of evidence backing up my case. Whereas, you've done SHIT to back your case up, you fucking asshole.

'nuff said.



Are you joking? You almost ALWAYS disagree with me about whatever we happen to be discussing. And this is no exception. Of course you disagree. And give me a break, there's more than enough evidence showing that child labour was unfortunately a necessity at that point in time. But if you have any compelling evidence to the contrary, don't talk about it, post it. And I know you just love to but would you STOP blurring the lines and tangling things together that don't belong together? Especially since we should ALL know by now that JFK was assassinated by more than one person and hence your last paragraph above wasn't necessary...



ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

I'm talking about the quality of life for the majority of human beings on planet earth.

But what you're doing is ignoring the benefits of Capitalism and concentrating on the negative aspects of it. I don't know why that is because the positives FAR outweigh the negatives.



So, you DO think Capitalism had something to do with the Industrial Revolution, unlike some here? Really? Well, then that's my mistake, if true. Please confirm.

Here's the REAL list...

This coming from someone who ACTUALLY thinks/believes/feels:

~ ANYONE who wears a hoodie is a racist (when they're not)
~ I'm Isaac (when I'm not)
~ there's a significant difference between the Democrats & the Republicans (when there isn't)
~ there's no difference between Ron Paul's personal beliefs and his political platform (when there is)
~ Ron Paul is a racist (despite the OVERWHELMING evidence showing he isn't)
~ Ron Paul is a Republican (despite technically being a Libertarian)
~ the Ron Paul Revolution was a hoax (when it wasn't)
~ most of Ron Paul's supporters endorsed/joined the Romney/Ryan ticket because they hate black people (when most, if not all of them, didn't and don't)
~ Obama is some kind of saint...despite the FACT he's:
* flip-flopped and downright LIED about almost EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMN '08 campaign promise
* owned and operated by the Military Industrial Complex (just like Romney)
* destroyed almost all of the 4th Amendment and part of the 1st Amendment
* has added $6.5 trillion to the debt - which is more than ANY other US President in history...and in only 3 1/2 years - which brings the total to $16.5 trillion
* doesn't know JACK SHIT ALL about economics or fiscal responsibility to save his life and hence is driving the US (and much of the world) into a double-dip recession that will make the current Housing Bubble Crisis look like a CAKE WALK
* wants stricter gun control laws, but is partially responsible for the killings of TENS OF THOUSANDS of innocent civilians through collateral damage throughout the Middle East and Afghanistan
~ figures by posting, re-posting and then re-posting again his nonsensical crap & BS claims about Ron Paul, that it provides leverage for his points (despite their baselessness)
~ Ayn Rand is a racist (despite NO compelling evidence showing this is true)
~ Capitalism had NOTHING to do with the Industrial Revolution (awaiting confirmation)

Yeah, I know. But don't laugh, folks...this fucker is serious...

Anyway...

It's official, you now hold the record for the Zappa Forum poster with the most BULLSHIT within one post! Isaac would be proud. Is there anything you'd like to say before we present your medal to you (oh and btw, in most cases, I don't repost the same post above over and over again - I almost always update it)?





ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

Once again, that essay was compiled from 16 different sources. What part of that don't you understand?



No, it's actually been more than once.


Keep FAILIN' and FAILIN' HARD, tweedle-dumb. It's always such a wonderful & entertaining show you put on.

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Because of Obamination's spending & socialist BS, America and much of the world will endure one of the worst depressions in history in 5...4...3...2...

Ignoring the benefits of Capitalism and concentrating on the negative aspects of it ?
The positives FAR outweigh the negatives ?

I had to read twice to be sure !
We're losing the planet because of greed largely promoted by capitalism.
When it's done, where will be the positive aspects of capitalism ?
We don't need more capitalism on this planet, we need less !

Please, don't give us links that prove your point, forcing us to lose our time finding links that'll say the opposite.
Do yourself a favor, calm down, go outside, take a walk, talk to your neighbours, smile to children,
give spare change to somebody in need, breathe some fresh air in a park nearby.

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No doubt, we're doomed !

That train ain't never late...

Consult a doctor. Seriously.

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Basically, DB is a one dimensional thinker trying to understand and comment upon three dimensional ideas.

His comments are full of this kind of language which has no place in true intellectual debate. I studied philosophy, history, sociology and psychology at post graduate level and had to hold my own in two main arenas. The first was tutorials where amongst a group of my peers I had to debate some issue or other. Talk like DB's would have just been laughed out of the room. The second arena was writing essays and telling a lecturer he's a twat doesn't get you very far in the grade stakes, only well researched, well reasoned and largely original arguments get you the marks. I passed with distinction.

DB's writing is riddled with invective padding and extreme claims about various people's lack of understanding:


You want an intellectual debate and yet you don't know what equivalent means. If I say A is not equivalent to B that is not a statement that says A and B are entirely different, except perhaps in your black and white world. The Industrial Revolution is a human achievement that will stand the test of time as discoveries, once they are made are not easily forgotten, whereas Capitalism is a social organising principal. There is no absolute logic that has been established by anyone that proves that eventually moving on from Capitalism will negate the benefits of the Industrial Revolution. Who gives a shit about who the Primeminister or President was over a 100 years ago, but no-one will ever forget or doubt the significance of the discovery of electromagnetism.

Do you even know what the term capital means? The money earned by anyone who labours to make a living wage is not capital. It's soon spent on ... gues what ... living. A true capitalist is one who has accumulated enough wealth to negate the need to labour for wages, who privately owns some of the means of production, enabling him to expand his wealth by reaping the surplus value of that production. That is, a very small privileged class of people. The vast majority of the human race labours to make a living in one way or another connected with the functioning of the means of production.

The basic conflict in Capitalism is about who gets to reap and direct the use of the surplus value of social production.

In other words greed as we all already know it means.

That is not greed by any stretch of the imagination and it is an insult to name it so. If "... productivity, pride in achievement and hard work drives people to flourish in a positive way...and that's what makes the world go 'round ..." why do we need private ownership or capitalism?

So why are you trying to debate it? (The suggestion that DB might actually be debating is debatable ...)


I didn't say any of what you're claiming, you have assumed it based on a one dimensional interpretation of three dimensional thinking. I personally believe that Capitalism played a huge role in the emergence of the Industrial Revolution. But, likewise, the emergence of Capitalism owes its beginnings to the existence of Feudalism which in turn lifted us out of the earliest forms of the state based significantly on slavery. Your faith in Capitalism is no less fervent than that of various Feudal masters who weren't happy about losing their power to the rising capitalist class. A revolution which took at least 400 years in England before it was finally enshrined in what we now call modern parliament. And it was a revolution which lost little or nothing of the benefits of the system that went before it.

So are you seriously saying that the "market" is equivalent to "the people"? Who or what is "Capitalism" and who or what is "the people" and how does each act in the real world? Capitalism is a handful of people who get to dominate our lives, the people, everyone else, are ultimately very poorly represented in modern parliament and don't get to allow or disallow anything much directly.

The Capitalist ruling class of today, however coherent a group they may or may not be are holding onto the hands of the clock just like their Feudal forbears when their time was up and it took well more than 400 years to come about. We've been trying Socialism for about 100 years. Yes, so far we have failed miserably, but that doesn't mean that we've passed through many major changes in social organisation through history only now to suddenly stop at the miserably pathetic random, weather forcast, evangelistic belief in Capitalism. History has a tendency to disagree with such naivité. Just because we don't know what the solution is, doesn't prove it can't happen. If nothing else, Capitalism itself has already proved that beyond a doubt. The writing is on the wall.

Note: The two edits I made is that I forgot to address the second arena where I mentioned two main arenas and the other was to put a "you" in where I'd skipped it in the part about debating.

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The way I see it Barry, this should be a very dynamite show.

That's it.Your only weapon is your own logic? DB's gonna tear you a new one.Hey! Hey! Tell 'em DB,we are not logical,we are not Legion,we're not even Annonomous.We're...____ tell 'em DB! I will if you won't!

Ya see,I've got big balls,Poly's got big balls,Plooks got big balls,capuths got big balls,every member that questions DB has big balls.But DB,you got the biggest balls of us all! So break it down as only the biggest Disco balls Boy can.......por favor.......let 'em have it big feller!

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One could gain the impression that Disco Boy's main intention is to take the ball(s) home with him...

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The more I learn, the less I know.

Leave my (huge, but largely unused) balls out of this.

Largely unused? My faith in your papal infallibility is sorely shaken!

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The more I learn, the less I know.

HIV is not AIDS. HIV is the virus that can cause the AIDS syndrom.

The AIDS syndrom alters the DNA of existing cells, and once it's manifested, it cannot be cured and leads to certain death. You can prevent HIV from causing AIDS by taking a medicine cocktail. The other person who is believed to have cured from HIV had a stem cell transplantation, a very severe procedure that has a high mortality. This toddler was given a massive amount of medication starting at 30 days old; quite a lot for a little baby.

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I hear the train a comin'
It's rollin' 'round the bend,
And he can't see the logic,
Since, I don't know when,
I'm stuck in this forum,
And Bully Boy keeps bitchin,
But that train keeps a-rollin',
On down to Bully Boy Town...

Don't quit your day job, Plook.

Venezuela's Hugo Chavez dead at 58

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez has died, his vice-president has announced.

Mr Chavez had not appeared in public since he returned to Venezuela last month after cancer treatment in Cuba.

An emotional Nicolas Maduro made the announcement on Tuesday evening, flanked by leading Venezuelan political and military leaders.

Earlier, he said the 58-year-old Venezuelan leader had a new, severe respiratory infection and had entered "his most difficult hours".

One of the most visible, vocal and controversial leaders in Latin America, the former army paratrooper won the presidency in 1998 and had most recently won another six-year presidential term in October 2012.

Last May, he said he had recovered from an unspecified cancer, after undergoing surgery and chemotherapy in 2011 and a further operation in February 2012.

However, in December 2012, he announced he needed further cancer surgery in Cuba, and named his Vice-President, Nicolas Maduro, as his preferred successor should the need arise.

Mr Chavez remained out of public view, finally returning to Venezuela in February.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-21679053

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Wow.....I heard this morning that he had a respiratory infection but they didn't let on that it was that bad.

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One things for sure, his Crystal Balls are shooting blanks when it comes to predictions. He needs political via-gra.


My Crystal Balls predict that Dumbfuck Boy will re-post his list again at some point., likely at many more points.




So to you, wiping out a race of people is the positive that outweighs the negative? No wonder why you're a Dr Ron "Josef Mengele" Paul supporter.


Dumbfuck Boy is confusing capitalism with imperialism.








go ahead...post your list again. I predict you will in 5...4...3...2...1...

I fixed it, better now?...

He had been ill for a while, it had just been played down in the news. Maybe someone not so hell bent against the US will take power, but I'm not holding my breath...lol...

I heard the samething,like he was gonna make a big comback.Then he pulls a Micheal Jackson.Maybe he'll come back as the new pope. (or he's stuck in hell as a little boy again....and with all those priest running around he should be very popular)

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He was not so hell bent against the US because of the sake of being, he hardened his line after the US supported failed coup from 2002.
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised - Chavez: Inside the Coup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id--ZFtjR5c

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He was a bad guy running with the other bad guys, hey they sometimes help a nation and are loved by their neighbors, look at Hitler in the '30's. Chavez was anti semetic, that is the bad guy badge of honor...

Your right of course,the US does this shit wherever it thinks it's needed.We lead our soldiers into these god bless America attacks on other countries and end up in wars we can't win.We need to cut of the head off the snake,congress.I bet the real American people would be just fine with more local/state government,rather than depending on the military complex to feed the machine that's become Washington DC's congress. It's our congress that has all these military/civilian jobs back in their home distric,that drives our need for war.Americans should look to their own backyards before we try and Americanize others.I can count at least 5 or more "bases" that are within 2 hours drive of me.California's not being attacked and hasn't sense WWII.The Miltary Complex has rooted it's ugly self in the hearts of all Americans.Who would spit on a soldier now? People who join the armed forces are learning to kill,when they should fall back and protect.Intellegence is a better weapon.Look at the weapons of mass destruction debacle that became the Iraq/Afghanistan wars.Look back at 'Nam.No one is learning from our mistakes!

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