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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Song Vs Song
PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:30 am 
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Advance Romance (Bongo Fury Vers.) vs. Advance Romance (FZ:OZ Vers.)

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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Song Vs Song
PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:49 am 
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I quite agree that Advance Romance should've been a one-tour song, thus Bongo Fury's version.

Bebop Tango vs The Black Page No. 1

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 12:17 pm 
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The Black Page #1, Bozzio is the shit.

"Goblin Girl" vs. "Heavenly Bank Account"

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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Song Vs Song
PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:03 am 
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"Heavenly Bank Account," I'd say. "Goblin Girl" is charming, don't get me wrong, but the vicious jabs at certain televangelists have always made me laugh harder than an oral sex joke that does get pretty redundant before the four minutes are even up.

"Tears Began to Fall" vs. "Daddy, Daddy, Daddy"

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:14 am 
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"Heavenly Bank Account," I'd say. "Goblin Girl" is charming, don't get me wrong, but the vicious jabs at certain televangelists have always made me laugh harder than an oral sex joke that does get pretty redundant before the four minutes are even up.

"Tears Began to Fall" vs. "Daddy, Daddy, Daddy"


The humor in "Goblin Girl" is certainly cheap, but it is such a great song. Those vocal counterpoints are astounding.

"Daddy, Daddy, Daddy", no question about it. Nice vocal work by Flo & Eddie, trombone touches by Duke.

"Project X" vs. "Dwarf Processional March & Dwarf Nebula"


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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Song Vs Song
PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:21 am 
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Project X. It's got nicer acoustic flourishes, plus it does not descend into pointless noisemaking.

Hmmm, "Music For a Low Budget Orchestra" (let's say JLP version) vs "Little House I Used to Live In" (the BWS version)

The reason for this choice: parts of both compositions (the chamber music bit in the "Little House" case) were originally used in Zappa's Electric Bassoon Concerto in June 1969. So just listen to the opening parts of "Low Budget" and then the chamber music bit of "Little House" and then say which one resonates with you more?

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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Song Vs Song
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I'm going to have to go with "Little House I Used To Live In."

Now for the avant-garde:

"The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet" vs. "The Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny"

I ask because I know Monster Magnet was never fully completed but TCPMOD never really did much for me either. What're your thoughts?

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I prefer Monster Magnet, first part of it is a bit boring/unfinished, but the second part makes it up.

Jonestown vs. Dio Fa


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I actually heard Dio Fa for the first time right now, and it blew me away. I want to listen to it again and again.

Envelopes (Drowning Witch) vs. Mōggio (Man from Utopia)

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Envelopes (Drowning Witch)

Holiday in Berlin vs Orange County Lumber Truck

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Holiday in Berlin.

Packard Goose Vs Status Back Baby

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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Song Vs Song
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Packard Goose is a funny, politically incorrect, vitriolic and absurd combo. Furthermore, it is musically challenging, it is really one of the peak moments in Joe's Garage. Just beautiful.

Now, what about "Twenty Small Cigars" vs. "Aybe Sea", both featuring FZ on clavichord?


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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Song Vs Song
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Tough choice, but I'll go with Aybe Sea (with Ian on harpsichord btw)

In the similar vein: Little Umbrellas vs It Must Be A Camel (two Hot Rats tracks never played live)

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My mistake! Ian plays harpsichord in Aybe Sea, that's true.

I love "It Must Be A Camel", but "Little Umbrellas" has always been one of my favorites. Around 1:12-1:18 in the composition there's a tango flavour to it, and I, being from Buenos Aires, simply love it. I don't think FZ listened to tango (I mean, the real one from South America, not the crappy European version of the genre with that omnipresent pedestrian beat guys dressed as spaniards dance to in old films).

Now, two doo-wop pieces not written by Frank.

"Anything" vs "The Closer You Are"


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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Song Vs Song
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I quite like "Closer You Are", but I'll nominate "Anything". R.I.P. Ray Collins!

As per tango, what sort of tango influences permeate the following face-off?

Bebop Tango vs Sheik Yerbouti Tango

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 Post subject: Re: Zappa Song Vs Song
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Ray Collins' voice was unique and beautiful, and overlooked vocalist.

Both "tangos" featured that European-tango beat. The "Sheik Yerbouti Tango" is a guitar solo over that vamp and that's all (a pretty good solo, by the way). "Be-Bop Tango" is not based entirely on that beat, and it's an absolute masterpiece, and, thus, the winner of this round. I still remember my reaction of amazement when listening to the Roxy album for the first time, with all those impossible-to-play pieces. It still mesmerizes me.

Now, two songs for the non-English-speaking audience:

"Satumaa" vs. "Sofa No.2"


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Funnily enough, I think I remember reading somewhere that "Sheik Tango" was influenced by some rare form of South-American tango, I can't dig it out for now. I guess you're much more of a tango aficionado, so I guess I shall have to trust your judgment.

I suppose I will go with Sofa. After all, Zappa himself wrote it.

Wild Love vs Jumbo Go Away. Both tunes feature some Zappa art music in it, the former a quote from "Sinister Footwear" (2nd mvt) and the second one a piece called "Number 6".

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The Sheik Tango features, in fact, some melodic line that reminds of a south american tango. I don't have Sheik Yerbouti loaded on my iPod, so I can't indicate now when that happens.

You Are What You Is is one of my favorite FZ albums. On the other hand, I'm not a big fan of Sheik Yerbouti. Anyway, I've always loved the "Sinister" quote in "Wild Love", and the vocals too (especially the low ones). So, "Wild Love" wins.

Two songs from FZ's basement sessions:

"Alley Cat" vs. "Chunga Basement"


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I'm gonna go with Alley Cat on this one. It really reminds me of the music I first fell in love with.

Tijuana Surf Vs We Are Not Alone

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We Are Not Alone, no question.

"Your Mouth" vs. "It Just Might Be a One-Shot Deal," the "less popular" tracks on Waka/Jawaka.

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Waka/Jawaka is like a sandwich. Two slices of long complex instrumental music and two meaty shorter songs in the middle. Both are great, but I will go with "I Just Might Be A One-Shot Deal" because of the amazing steel guitar work and all those nice rhythm changes.

"Amnerika" (CP III) vs. "Amnerika" (EIHN) Machine vs. Man


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CPIII Version.

Valley Girl Vs. Teen-age Prostitute (Drowning Witch Vers.)

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Plastic People vs Who Are the Brain Police

Two songs that weren't played live with music as heard on the record. "PP"'s lyrics over Louie Louie and "Brain Police" lyrics over Canned Heat like blues-rock backing.

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Plastic People for sure. I love Absolutely Free and the falsetto 'Oooooooo' from Estrada make me laugh.

Anything vs Mr Green Genes

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Mr. Green Genes

Son of Mr. Green Genes VS Return Of The Son Of Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar


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