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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:41 pm 
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In Pittsburgh, they opened up the second set with an incredible performance of "The Evil Prince", complete with a story about FZ taking his family to see "Cats".

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:56 pm 
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So how did/does "Bebop Tango" work in ZPZ's hands, dependent as this composition is on Bruce Fowler or the brassy talent of Bruce Fowler caliber? I'd reckon perhaps Scheila does the solo, but really, it's a drag all the brass parts that Bruce played during the halcyon days would have to be replicated on sax. Sax is usually my least favourite instrument in the standard horn section trio, unless played by folks like Bunk Gardner or Ian Underwood, of course. Are truly monster trombonists really so hard to come by? That Ben Thomas guy anyway seems to be the brass equivalent of Napoleon: can play a little (and perhaps is even better than Bob Harris in 1980), but not as complicated as Bruce/Scheila.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:16 pm 
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DB, seen any clips of the Be-Bop Tango, preformed by DZpZ on this latest tour yet?

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KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
DB, seen any clips of the Be-Bop Tango, preformed by DZpZ on this latest tour yet?


Nope. Not yet.

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DB, seen any clips of the Be-Bop Tango, preformed by DZpZ on this latest tour yet?


Nope. Not yet.

Neither have I. I wonder why?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:10 am 
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I have a clip, but I have 2 problems posting it.

First: it's over 18 minutes, YouTube only allows me to upload clips 15 and under.

Second: I've had the ZFT make me take down Zappa material before, it makes your standing with YouTube go down.

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I'm sure they did Teenage Wind at the last Roundhouse show in London.


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I'm sure they did Teenage Wind at the last Roundhouse show in London.


I don't think so...they did Teenage Prostitute and Wind Up Workin' In A Gas Station though!

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Wino Man
Back In Black


Listening to the recordings of the show. These two songs are performed as one, it appears that someone (perhaps Ben Thomas, but then he's heard playing the trumpet as well for that song) is attempting to imitate Lancelotti for the Lost Episodes-ish "Wonderful Wino", but comes across a bit Brian Johnson-y so they also tear into "Back in Black".

I also think "Be-Bop Tango" came out surprisingly good. Tempo is paced at roughly three fourths of the Roxy version and even the JLP Mothers could play the tune at higher BPM (consult the 73/09/14 Wembley recording), but the overall performance is great! Scheila is really good on sax, come to think of it. She makes me think of all the legendary Zappa sidemen who were able to sightread the Tango, then of course Ben shows he can make some use of the trombone and then...he actually takes the solo and sounds pretty good! Not Bruce Fowler-genius, but serviceable, a bit of conducted improv interjections as well.

Still in two minds about the tango dance contest. Just as I'm hesitant to listen to "Be-Bop Tango" on Roxy beyond the 'bone solo, it does seem that it's not as exciting to listen to mere audio recording of the event. If I was at the gig, I guess I'd probably pull a Ben Watson and declare myself "Eric Dolphy", haha! I'm surprised it is the keyboard guy Chris who channels George, I was assuming the duty would be relegated to Scheila. Is the keyboarder Chris also doing the lead singing on "Teenage Wind"?

I think Ben Thomas is okay. He's caught a lot of flack for "murdering" the Zappa classics, but he does sound competent to my mind and I don't really mind his singing at all. He's probably even better than when he first started out. Perhaps he will also continue to improve as a brass player. So I'm not expecting him to be another Sal Marquez or Bruce Fowler, but then, few brass players match up to them.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:23 am 
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Ed Organus Maximus wrote:
jaypfunk wrote:
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Listening to the recordings of the show. These two songs are performed as one, it appears that someone (perhaps Ben Thomas, but then he's heard playing the trumpet as well for that song) is attempting to imitate Lancelotti for the Lost Episodes-ish "Wonderful Wino", but comes across a bit Brian Johnson-y so they also tear into "Back in Black".


I'm assuming it is one of the crew but they did not announce his name in Milwaukee last night.


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RobRay wrote:
Ed Organus Maximus wrote:
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Wino Man
Back In Black


Listening to the recordings of the show. These two songs are performed as one, it appears that someone (perhaps Ben Thomas, but then he's heard playing the trumpet as well for that song) is attempting to imitate Lancelotti for the Lost Episodes-ish "Wonderful Wino", but comes across a bit Brian Johnson-y so they also tear into "Back in Black".


I'm assuming it is one of the crew but they did not announce his name in Milwaukee last night.


I'm guessing it was roadie Pete Jones (who sings Debra Kadabra on Out Of Obscurity.).

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It is Ben says so on the Back in black video Disco boy posted back a page :wink:

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I was at the Columbus show. Pete Jones did Wonderful Wino / Back in Back.

I've been to 20 plus ZPZ shows. I quit taking hearing protection a long time ago because I've never needed it. This time they added front fill speakers on the stage about 4 feet from where I was in front row. Holy crap! The show was Thursday - it's now Monday and my ears are still ringing. I'm not sure of the level in the rest of the venue, but down front it was literally painful.


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on DIME right now...

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September 05, 2013
LC Pavillion, Columbus, OH

CA-11 (FOB/DFC) > SPSB-8 > DR-2d
SDHC > CD Wave > Trader's Little Helper > FLAC

set 1
Penguin In Bondage
Pygmy Twylyte
Dummy Up
Village Of The Sun
Echidna's Arf (Of You)
Don't You Ever Wash That Thing
Cheepnis
Son Of Orange County
More Trouble Every Day
Be-bop Tango
Entertainment Tonight

set 2
Teenage Wind
Teenage Prostitute
Black Page 1&2
I Came From Nowhere
Montana
Wino Man
Back In Black
Muffin Man
(no encore)


Let me sound off here. Fonzie used to say "A" on Happy Days. Someone was saying that it was B. I said no way, it was B, plus I would have remembered that. But an excellent show all the way around.

(I may have posted in the wrong thread, sorry)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:41 pm 
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The Gumbo Variations

Roxy & Elsewhere in its entirety:

Penguin In Bondage
Pygmy Twylyte
Dummy Up
Village Of The Sun
Echidna's Arf (Of You)
Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?
Cheepnis
Son Of Orange County
More Trouble Every Day
Be-Bop Tango (Of the Old Jazzmen's Church)

Florentine Pogen
Teenage Wind
Teenage Prostitute
The Black Page
Cosmik Debris
Flakes
Broken Hearts Are For Assholes
Wonderful Wino
Muffin Man

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Thanks DB. 8) I guess that's called kissing your ass and defending you. But thanks for posting the set lists, it's just easier to catch it here than navigate through DZW. Nothing more or less. :| 8)

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Chicago, IL
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The Gumbo Variations

Roxy & Elsewhere in its entirety:

Penguin In Bondage
Pygmy Twylyte
Dummy Up
Village Of The Sun
Echidna's Arf (Of You)
Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?
Cheepnis
Son Of Orange County
More Trouble Every Day
Be-Bop Tango (Of the Old Jazzmen's Church)
Entertainment Tonight (Theme Music)

Florentine Pogen
Teenage Wind
Teenage Prostitute
The Black Page
Flakes
Broken Hearts Are For Assholes
Wonderful Wino
I Come From Nowhere
Muffin Man

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October 13 2013 The Kent Stage - Kent, OH (from actual Setlist)

1 Gumbo Variations
Roxy & Elsewhere
2 Penguin in Bondage
3 Pygmy Twylyte
4 Dummy Up
5 Village of the Sun
6 Echidna's Arf (of You)
7 Don't You Ever Wash That Thing? (Scheila, Chris, DZ)
8 Cheepnis
9 Son of Orange County
10 More Trouble Everyday
11 Be-Bop Tango (Intermission) w/ Happy Birthday to Bob (member of the crowd) during the audience participation

12 Florentine Pogen - SEGUE
13 Teenage Wind - SEGUE
14 Teenage Prostitute
15 The Black Page #1 (Drum Solo)
16 The Black Page #2 (Scheila)
17 Flakes
18 Broken Hearts Are for Assholes
19 Wonderful Wino
20 I Come from Nowhere
21 Cosmik Debris

22 Duke of Prunes
23 Muffin Man

secret word for the night = Scurf
great show overall. during one of the early numbers, a young lady actually jumped up on the stage and was dancing around before being lead off by the roadie. She came up to the front of the stage again later in the show and was eventually tossed out after trying to run from security. Duke of Prunes was a nice surprise, Dweezil played the Frank strat to get all the controlled feedback like on Orchestral Favorites.

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Cool. Duke Of Prunes is one of my top requests.


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Seeing ZPZ on Weds this week in Philly. Set list is killer. Can't wait.

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Charlottesville, VA
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The Gumbo Variations

Roxy & Elsewhere in its entirety:

Penguin In Bondage
Pygmy Twylyte
Dummy Up
Village Of The Sun
Echidna's Arf (Of You)
Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?
Cheepnis
Son Of Orange County
More Trouble Every Day
Be-Bop Tango (Of the Old Jazzmen's Church)

Florentine Pogen
Teenage Wind
The Black Page
Flakes
Broken Hearts Are For Assholes
Wonderful Wino
I Come From Nowhere
Cosmik Debris

Duke Of Prunes
Muffin Man

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When you hear Muffin Man it appears to signal the end. :cry:
I hope everyone has as good a time as I do at any DZpZ concert. Though I doubt it! :mrgreen: I put eyebrows on their shows...sometimes, when they put me in the mood! Yi-Haw! :D

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Amazing show last nite at the Keswick in Glenside, PA. Typical set list with a few variations. Also great seeing my buddy Chuck Ash. Yes... THAT Chuck Ash.

10/16/2013

The Gumbo Variations

Roxy & Elsewhere
Penguin in Bondage
Pygmy Twylyte
Dummy Up
Village of the Sun
Echidna's Arf (Of You)
Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?
Cheepnis
Son of Orange County
More Trouble Every Day
Be-Bop Tango (Of the Old Jazzmen's Church)

Intermission

Florentine Pogen (Aborted and restarted due to Ben's bad mic)
Teen-Age Wind
The Black Page
Flakes
Broken Hearts Are for Assholes
Wonderful Wino
I Come From Nowhere
Cosmik Debris

Encore:
San Ber'dino (1st time played on this tour. It was nice and loose.)
Orchestral Duke of Prunes
Muffin Man

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Looks like the 10/17 Buffalo show was exactly the same as Glenside, except add Teenage Prostitute in the 2nd set. Fucking killer show. Not one complaint. I'm glad they dropped the AC/DC cover. I'm guessing that cut time off of solos/improvs on the nights it was played.


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10/16/2013 Glenside, PA Keswick

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-deta ... ?id=468753

Good recording. A little bass heavy and distorted in parts.

You can hear me yell "POGEN!!" right after Dweezil says "Cookies are good" in the Florentine Pogen intro.

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