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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:05 am 
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Golly, Mr Green Genes hates the United States! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Amnerika
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How could it be true, since I am a genuine American myself, with real American blood from real Americans, who lives in American soil and who loves it?

I'm sad you have such a simplistic views on my own personal opinions. The kind of "your either with us, or..." attitude.

All I was pointing is the state of business due to the phony war on drugs.

And, BTW, free Tommy Chong!

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Gee, I agree with you! That's not what I meant! Let me go back and rephrase. And do you think I like US intervention? Heck no! You aren't going to get rid of any drug problem by trying to eliminate the drugs and the drug dealers. You have to eliminate the demand! But even then, people should be able to choose.

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And that, folks, was Cal's longest post ever! :mrgreen:

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I think America's ok, apart from the Tea Party idiots... and I don't care if the occasional dickhead gets tasered if they deserve it.

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and what would you say about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73PIJLNp07A

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
and what would you say about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73PIJLNp07A


C'mon, MGG, have you ever tried to take a cell phone away from a 15 year old girl? I heard they were thinking of bringing SWAT in!

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calvin2hikers wrote:
Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
and what would you say about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73PIJLNp07A


C'mon, MGG, have you ever tried to take a cell phone away from a 15 year old girl? I heard they were thinking of bringing SWAT in!

If they need help, I know some ex-footballers who are looking for a job.

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Here is what a Chinese [edit: actually, apparently a Thai] teacher would do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owmvr-IfXc0

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Mr_Green_Genes wrote:
And, BTW, free Tommy Chong!

Yes. he's being held hostage by Dancing With The Stars.
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You aren't going to get rid of any drug problem by trying to eliminate the drugs and the drug dealers. You have to eliminate the demand!

I realise this is old, but what the hey.
Just wondering what the 'drug problem' is....
I think the worst problem is the crime committed to pay for an addiction. £5000 worth of damage to a house / car to buy £100 of smack?
I accept the 'health' issue is important, but from my work in the past, one of the aims was to try to get smack addicts to survive enough years to 'grow out of it' - and many do IF they survive. HIV and HepC is preventable by clean practices too.
The old issue of criminalising it seems to be more related to punishing subversive behaviour than having any beneficial effect on anyone.
Legalising drugs does not significantly increase drug use, but it does significantly reduce petty crime, criminalisation of 'normal' people, and facilitate people seeking 'fear free' healthcare.
But thats just my 2c...
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Al Jazeera Frames - Tax Dollars at War

Do you know how your tax dollars are spent?

US radio host Dennis Bernstein and investigative reporter Dave Lindorff illustrate just how much US tax money goes towards the country's war chest.

"People have to realise that 53 cents of every dollar that they are paying into taxes is going to the military to an astonishing figure there is an enormous, enormous amount of money being blown on war an killing and destruction."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Os3q2p86Q

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This is Amnerika!
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No, Native Americans aren't genetically more susceptible to alcoholism

Time to retire the 'firewater' fairytale


When Jessica Elm, a citizen of the Oneida Tribe of Indians of Wisconsin, was studying for her master’s degree in social work, she frequently heard about how genes were responsible for the high risk of alcoholism among American Indians. But her own family’s experience — and the research, she discovered — tells a very different story.

The "firewater" fairytale that Elm came to know all too well goes like this: Europeans introduced Native Americans to alcohol, which they were genetically unprepared to handle. That happenstance led to alcoholism rates that are around twice as high as those seen in whites — and alcohol-related death rates, which are at least tripled. In this view, colonization didn’t make conquered people susceptible to heavy drinking — genes did.

Addiction is often described as an equal opportunity disease. It isn’t: while anyone can become addicted under certain conditions, like most bullies, addiction prefers to hit people who are already hurting. The more trauma and social exclusion a child experiences, the greater the addiction risk. This creates a vicious cycle: addiction itself becomes a reason for even more rejection, prejudice, and maltreatment.

Perhaps nowhere is this clearer than in the shameful collection of stereotypes and stigmas surrounding alcoholism among American Indians. "Firewater" myths come from the racist ideology that fueled colonialism; they can be seen, for example, in a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to a chief who led a native movement for abstinence. Jefferson argues that whites have only "sold what individuals wish to buy" and that "spirituous liquors are not in themselves bad … But as you find that your people cannot refrain from an ill use of them, I greatly applaud your resolution not to use them at all."

The apogee of victim-blaming, the idea that genetic "inferiority" causes native peoples to be particularly susceptible to addiction was not falsifiable when it was initially spread. But even now that it has been disproven, the myth obscures the real causes of addiction and the starring roles that trauma and the multiple stresses of inequality can play in creating it.

"It’s easier to pathologize people than it is to think critically," says Elm, now a PhD student at the University of Washington who studies how the health of Native Americans is affected by stress and generations of traumatic experience.

In fact, there’s no evidence that Native Americans are more biologically susceptible to substance use disorders than any other group, says Joseph Gone, associate professor of psychology at the University of Michigan. American Indians don’t metabolize or react to alcohol differently than whites do, and they don’t have higher prevalence of any known risk genes.

Rates of all types of addiction — not just alcohol — are elevated in aboriginal peoples around the world, not only in America. It’s unlikely that these scattered groups randomly happen to share more vulnerability genes for addiction than any other similarly dispersed people. But what they clearly do have in common is an ongoing multi-generational experience of trauma.

The link between trauma and addiction is not in dispute — and the earlier the trauma, the worse the risk of addiction becomes. Whether it’s losing a parent young, being emotionally, physically, or sexually violated, experiencing a natural or man-made disaster or witnessing violence, the risks add up. For example, one study of nearly 10,000 people found that those with four or more of these types of "adverse childhood experiences" (ACEs) have a risk of alcoholism that is seven times greater than those with none. Similarly, boys who have four or more ACEs are nearly five times more likely to inject drugs than those with none.

American Indians are also much more likely than whites to have their families broken up by the state, which can propel trauma down the generations. Among older Indians, thousands were torn away from their parents and sent to abusive boarding schools whose explicit goal was cultural genocide: "Kill the Indian to save the man." In these schools, children were forbidden from using their own language and even their own names. Today, a full quarter of Native Americans either have personal boarding school experience or were adopted by whites — meaning they were separated from their parents and, often, from their tribe early in life, according to Elm.

Other evidence also shows that the introduction to alcohol by whites wasn’t itself the cause of Indian drinking problems. Take, for instance, the historical case of one island tribe in Canada, cited by psychologist Bruce Alexander, the author of The Globalization of Addiction. The colonists who took over the island opposed drinking, so they didn’t introduce alcohol. Its geographical isolation actually allowed successful prohibition. But this didn’t prevent addiction-related destruction and despair. "Gambling became a problem," Alexander says, noting that the pastime had mainly been harmless before the colonists arrived.

Alexander is best known for his research showing that an enriched social and physical environment for rats ("Rat Park") dramatically reduced their risk of becoming addicted to morphine. When rats were kept in bare cages — the rodent equivalent of a life of solitary confinement — they readily lapped up solutions that contained morphine. But when they had toys, companions, mates, and room to run, even if they were first made physically dependent and taught that the drink would relieve withdrawal symptoms, they took far less than the isolated, caged rats did. Other rat research also shows that social stress — like being beaten in a fight by a dominant rat — doubles addiction risk for the defeated animal.

In humans, low socioeconomic status raises addiction risk even further. The media has recently focused relentlessly on the rise in middle class heroin and prescription drug addiction. But, in fact, heroin addiction rates are highest among the poor: the addiction rate for those making less than $20,000 annually is triple that for those who make $50,000 or more.

In a state level study of prescription opioids, local poverty rates and levels of unemployment rose in tandem with drug problems: higher unemployment and more poverty were linked with higher rates of painkiller misuse, according to a 2009 study in the Journal of Addictive Disorders. The same relationship holds true for low levels of education: people with less than a high school education are at much greater risk than those with college degrees.

Unemployment, too, is linked with a doubling of addiction risk. That could be because people who are addicted are more likely to lose their jobs. However, studies that follow people over time show that unemployment itself, particularly long term, also increases drug consumption and addiction.

In Indian country, every single one of these stressors is elevated. Over a quarter of Native Americans live in poverty, and the unemployment rate is double that for the rest of the population. Research, in fact, links childhood adversity not just to addictions and other mental illnesses, but also to physical disease — including major killers like heart disease, stroke, and diabetes. Chronic stress matters because elevated levels of stress hormones can suppress the immune system and even damage brain cells. These effects are writ large among Native Americans. Diabetes rates are doubled; liver disease is quintupled. Suicide rates are high. Indeed, the prevalence of major health problems is so high that on average, American Indians have their life expectancy cut by four years compared to whites.

"Any kind of stressor affects your physiology," says Elm. "I’m from a Midwest tribe. For me personally, my aunt and uncle and mom — almost all of my [relatives] have some sort of early life diagnosis of disease. A lot of my cousins [have] lupus. There’s a lot of auto immune disorders and diabetes."

To make matters worse, severe stress doesn’t just affect one generation: it is passed down, both socially — affecting parenting — and physiologically, by actually changing how children’s genes are read, which can alter both brain and body, a phenomenon known as epigenetics. Research on children of Holocaust survivors, for example, shows changes in reading instructions for genes related to stress.

In Elm’s case, her grandmother lost both of her parents very early in life — and she was left to raise her siblings, some of whom were taken from her and sent to Indian boarding schools. "I think the parents’ grief and the children’s grief was so tremendous," Elm says of the pain of both the separation and the abuse inflicted by the schools. "The children who went there never had parent role models," she adds, "They didn’t know how to parent, even when they did their best."

Some researchers who study native health talk about such "historical trauma" as a major reason for lingering disparities. The University of Michigan’s Gone, however, dislikes the term. "It pulls the eye away from present and settles it on the past," he says. Spotlighting horrors like Wounded Knee allows people to overlook the conditions of native communities today. It can also imply hopelessness about the future, emphasizing permanent damage, not the chance of recovery.

Gone cites a study published in 2010 in the Journal of the American Medical Association that clearly shows how much of a difference simply having more money can make. It followed a group of Cherokees who were part of a large research project on the development of addictions and other psychiatric disorders in rural and urban youth. Three years into the project, the families of the Indian children — but not those of other races — were given, on average, yearly payments of $9,000 as part of a deal for a casino on their reservation.

That relatively small amount of money had a big impact. The younger a child was when their parents started receiving the money, the better they did and perhaps also importantly, parents’ employment rates also increased. For example, 35 percent of those who were 16 when the parents began receiving payments developed problems with alcohol or other drugs — but only 23 percent of those who were 12 did. The 12-year-olds were the youngest studied, but other research suggests that younger kids might do even better.

When compared to white participants whose families didn’t get payment — rather than to each other by age — the Cherokees also did better. Addiction rates were reduced by about one-third, in Indians compared to whites. Obviously, all of the Indians in the study had suffered significant "historical trauma" — but that didn’t prevent them from being helped simply by becoming less poor.

Elm also points to projects that help Indians reconnect with their culture and traditions as a route to healing. She herself is learning her native language. "It’s really helpful," she says, noting that the values of her people are embedded in its tongue and that the classes themselves connect her not only to her history, but to other members of the tribe in her class. Other researchers are studying how learning traditional drumming can help heal addiction and trauma.

If we want to prevent addiction and aid recovery, we need to focus more on stress, trauma, and poverty — things we can change — than on genes and history, which we cannot.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/2/9428659/firewater-racist-myth-alcoholism-native-americans

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Al Jazeera Frames - Tax Dollars at War

Do you know how your tax dollars are spent?

US radio host Dennis Bernstein and investigative reporter Dave Lindorff illustrate just how much US tax money goes towards the country's war chest.

"People have to realise that 53 cents of every dollar that they are paying into taxes is going to the military to an astonishing figure there is an enormous, enormous amount of money being blown on war an killing and destruction."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Os3q2p86Q


Yeah, I was seeing something that it's just under 60% now, I forgot where I saw it.

In order for Americans to know things of that sort, they have to want to know it because it's generally not on the news, so generally not in the general consensus. You have to look it up.

The only thing you can be sure of here when you watch the news, is you are not thinking about what you should be thinking about.

(And consequently, the same for the general consensus, it's why we're so susceptible to ice picks).

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So then, what's your solution to maintain national security within the US and abroad with our allies, and how would you maintain it?


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I'd spend 90% of taxes on war, 60% isn't enough.

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I'd spend 90% of taxes on war, 60% isn't enough.


That's either sarcasm or you've changed your view by 180 degrees.


If it's sarcasm, then you have no solution or real answer to my question. If it's not sarcasm, then you are a Republican or other Right Winger.


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So then, what's your solution to maintain national security within the US and abroad with our allies, and how would you maintain it?


Take away everyones freedom of choice.


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Ah, that calls for a song!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jVoroHx3IU
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SPACEBROTHER wrote:
So then, what's your solution to maintain national security within the US and abroad with our allies, and how would you maintain it?

I'd bomb more hospitals, you don't bomb enough hospitals sb, you leave too many children alive, they are going to grow up to be terrorists and threaten my national security, and security of my allies...

Surely you and Obama are on the right track with your bombing...but bombing thousands of innocents with 60% of our taxes isn't enough, if we used 90% our taxes, we could bomb one third more people and improve our national security by another 1/3rd.

BTW sb, I was wondering what your formula is for how much safer you become for each child you bomb?

BTW sb, nice shooting :)

16 Civilians Killed as US Warplane Attacks Afghan Hospital

12 Staffers From Doctors Without Borders Among the Slain


by Jason Ditz, October 03, 2015

The Pentagon is promising an investigation today after it was revealed that an AC-130 warplane carried out sustained fire against a Doctors Without Borders-run hospital on the outskirts of the Taliban-held city of Kunduz, killing 19 including 12 staffers and three children.

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Though Doctors Without Borders reported 19 dead and 37 injured as a preliminary toll, they added that 30 other people are unaccounted for, meaning the tolls will almost certainly rise in the hours to come.

This is not the first time the US has come under fire for its actions against hospitals in Afghanistan, though it is by far the biggest such incidents. Back in 2009 there were a pair of incidents, including one in which US ground troops attacked a hospital, forcing their way in, and tying up the staff before smashing up the place. That hospital was run by the charity group the Swedish Committee for Afghanistan.

FULL STORY HERE

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...in other words, you have no solution.


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Noooooo, as I said above, of course I have a solution, it's the same as yours except I'd do it more... More bombing. 60% of our taxes on war is not enough to make us safe, 90% of our taxes on war would make us 30% safer...who can argue with that?

Sheeze Louise, what a moron!

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I'll take you at your word then.

Oh, and btw, your post above regarding who is responsible for the hospital bombing in Afghanistan is now proven to be technically inaccurate...

Afghan forces called for air strike in Kunduz


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