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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:06 pm 
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Didn't know where to post this, figured it would get the most views here.

I'm thinking about getting the book soon but a certain quote by Don Preston is putting me off.

"A lot of stuff in that book is bull shit. It was just his imagination."

How true do you think that is and what do you think he is referring to?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:31 pm 
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just his imagination.

It's not a history book, not a scientific one - but a personal view of a man who lived through the 20th century, and has his opinion on the world. Do not expect some kind of "justice" or "unquestionable truth", but "the way he sees it". That's what autobiographies about. :-)


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:39 pm 
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The Real Frank Zappa Book is a must have for the Frank fanatic, just ask Trendy....


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:49 pm 
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Only a brief section of the book is about the time when Don Preston was in FZ's band.


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Only a brief section of the book is about the time when Don Preston was in FZ's band.

Don seems a little bitter to me, but he's still out there preforming the music of FZ even though he'll tell you he wrote a lot of the MOI stuff and some of it after the MOI (like the keyboard solos on King Kong) but FZ took credit for everything.
That's what he told me at the last Grand Mothers show I was at in Sacramento last Sept. anyway. :|

I've read all but the last couple of pages of TRFZB....I guess I don't want it to ever end. 'Tis a good read up till that point. :wink: 8)

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It's not like your typical autobiography, but I certainly don't think it's imagination. I enjoyed reading it, and would recommend it. If you agree with Frank's religious and political views in his music, you will enjoy the book.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:10 am 
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I'll get it. I read a preview and it seems pretty funny and well written. I just want to know what Don was on about specifically, maybe I can find the full interview.

I'll read it when I'm done with Zappa - The Hard Way

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Don objected to the story of Frank seeing Duke Ellington begging a ten-dollar advance from some George Wein assistant and using it as an excuse to end the MOI. Art Tripp however has confirmed that he too heard Ellington begging for money.

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Ah okay then. So really it was only a minor comment that sounded much more harsh. And I remember the interview with Art (From FZ and the MOI in 1960's documentary) where he spoke of the incident and it showed where the jazz business was at financially.

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Why would you stop and second guess a book about someone you want to read about that was made by the one you want to read about? Wordddyyy!

Haha.

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TRFZB, read it, love it, read it again, and again... I was barely into FZ when I first bought it, with only two compilation albums and Ship in my collection, consequently I barely understood a lot of the references but it's a fun read.

Personal highlight was when my pop music teacher read a chapter from TRFZB in class.

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I sold all my books except this one

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I sold all my books except this one

"The bable" according to Frank, eh ZutboF? :wink:

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Why would you stop and second guess a book about someone you want to read about that was made by the one you want to read about? Wordddyyy!

Haha.


I just wanted to know other people's opinions on it. What if I read it, loved it and then found out it was all lies. I would feel cheated.

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Phlakaton wrote:
Why would you stop and second guess a book about someone you want to read about that was made by the one you want to read about? Wordddyyy!

Haha.


I just wanted to know other people's opinions on it. What if I read it, loved it and then found out it was all lies. I would feel cheated.



It's his book, read it! We were already cheated when he died way too soon. Besides, who are you going to believe, Santa or his elves?

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Fuck Don. Let him write his own book.

Or did he really write TRFZB. :wink:

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I sold all my books except this one

"The bable" according to Frank, eh ZutboF? :wink:

Yes sir :mrgreen:

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KAPT.KIIRK wrote:
ZutboF wrote:
I sold all my books except this one

"The bable" according to Frank, eh ZutboF? :wink:

Yes sir :mrgreen:

We should start a cult. Replace all the Gideon bables with TRFZB! That would "Freak Out" motel/hotel guests everywhere! :shock: 8) :lol:

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This book belongs in every household. I'd even recommend it for non-FZ fans...because it not only encompasses FZ's natural humour but the depth of his intellectual spectrum.

I read it every Zappadan. And will again shortly.

Btw, when Nile Rodgers' (Chic guitarist) autobiography was recently released, he was asked what his top 10 favourite auto-bios were. And The Real Frank Zappa Book was one of them. After finishing it, he admitted he's now a HUGE fan. Pretty cool, eh?

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I read it every Zappadan. And will again shortly.

That's a good idea DB! I think I'll do the same. Maybe this time I'll read those last few pages. :) 8)

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I read it every Zappadan. And will again shortly.

That's a good idea DB! I think I'll do the same. Maybe this time I'll read those last few pages. :) 8)

There's no such thing as zappadan in my world, but TRFZB is a good read any time of the year.

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This book belongs in every household. I'd even recommend it for non-FZ fans...because it not only encompasses FZ's natural humour but the depth of his intellectual spectrum.


Well said DB! My teenage son is currently reading my copy.


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I have two copies because I wanted to read it a third time and could not locate it, then my original copy turned up... :lol: ...this book is great, a must read, but some may call it dated…Frank was very topical and always highlighting current events (this is a stand out feature of his live music) this book is no different. The book is certainly not intended to be a linear recounting of his life, like many things Frank did, it is all over the place... :smoke:


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I am surprised the audio book version is read by Andre' Cholmondeley.


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I've been hunting for my copy for a couple of days now - no luck.
That's cos I bought it on kindle a couple of years ago, and forgot about it.
I only got into a couple of chapters before I gave up cos I really don't like the kindle.
It's on charge again...
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