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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:11 pm 
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1. To have or not to have a sense of humor and to be able to laugh or not to laugh about that incident is not my point.


I know that...but you still don't have one anyway. And that was my point.

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To make the description of this incident "the favourite part" of the book is what I would consider creepy.


Why? It was a hilarious act. Dude, lighten the fuck up. :roll:

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2. One more time for YOUR world: I never said that Frank wasn't a Capitalist or that he didn't hate Socialism/Communism. And I am not a far-lefty.


Cut the crap, we both know you're full of shit.

While you might not have said it, you certainly think it. Otherwise, you wouldn't be making such a big deal out of it in this thread or other threads, like many here. :roll:

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You are black-and-white thinker: everyone who is not an ultra-rightwing conservative Capitalist, is automatically a far-left Socialist/Communist in your little world of understanding.


Almost none of the above is true. And I'm primarily a Libertarian. Do you know what that actually means? Or do I have to explain the definition to you, similar to what I had to do with polydigm regarding, "Capitalism", "capital" and "petit bourgeois"? :roll:

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Back to the book: My "favourite part" (if it is all true) is, to learn that Frank obviously failed big time as a boss. He gave the task of Clonemeister to a young man, who was obviously overtaxed with this. The unanswered question is, why he (Frank) made this decision in the first place, why didn't he realize his mistake and why didn't he care to correct it. It is still astonishing that this ensemble was under those circumstances able to perform on such high level (though the results didn't stand the test of time for me personally).

Thinman


It's too difficult to say if FZ really failed as a boss or not. And this is because there were many other factors at play. While Frank probably should've kept a closer watch on the activities, Thunes wasn't the only one being difficult...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:08 am 
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For anyone interested, Zappa The Hard Way is now available on Kindle (from http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EEBXWWE or http://amzn.com/B00EEBXWWE).

There are no major changes from the physical renderings, though the eBook does include more photos from the limited edition hardback, the discography has been updated, and a few more minor errors have been fixed.

The front cover is as per the paperback (which was the publisher's choice).

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For anyone interested, Zappa The Hard Way is now available on Kindle (from http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EEBXWWE or http://amzn.com/B00EEBXWWE).

I really enjoyed that. Thanks from Brazil, Mr. Greenway. I also enjoyed you mentioned The Central Scrutinizer Band.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:07 pm 
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Thanks IB! :wink: 8)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:17 am 
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Ordered this in paperback from Amazon...very interesting read, good to get the many sides of what went on. Too bad this tour self-destructed, Thunes seems like quite the character. To say the least. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:12 am 
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Hey, thanks guys :D

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:07 pm 
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Hey, thanks guys :D


I finished it a few days ago. Great book. Wish it was longer as I was completely wrapped up in the story. I miss Frank and I never knew him in life.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:50 pm 
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I second that. Very nice book. Well balanced. The musicians speak, and the reader can figure out who is to blame for it all. Probably Thunes was a pain, but the ultimate responsibility for the tour failure is bad leadership; i.e., Frank's absence. He seemed to delegate to the wrong guy. And realized it too late.

It is amazing how much good music came out of that band. I saw it live three times and all shows were great, and two of them outstanding (Copenhagen and Hamburg).

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