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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:11 am 
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I thought I had posted again here but hadn't.

I found another post, but rather than resuscitate it I will post that info here:

Barrow's bass in the other discussion was named as a 77/78 fretless gibson ripper.

This info corroborates what is on Barrows own website.

And in that other thread people start speculating that Barrow's fretless toured with him with Zappa.

It may have, but I have reason to believe the bass he lists on his site was not the same bass. Maybe he liked the sound and bought a fretless one like it? Maybe he de-fretted his? Whatever it is, on Circus Krone '78 video his bass is clearly fretted,
as is his bass here:

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By 79 he was on the Fender Jazz for Joe's Garage, and in the Paris 1980 video.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:10 am 
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Jeff Simmons:
1970, Fender Precision or Telecaster, amp unknown

In some of the Tele bass concert shots, Jeff is clearly playing through an Acoustic amp w/ 18" folded horn cabinet. I also see a Sunn behind him in other shots.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:44 am 
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Scott Thunes:
1981/82, Carvin bass, amp unknown,
1984, Fender Precision + Fender Jazzbass (backup only), amp unknown,
1988, Fender Precision + unknown 5-string (probably fretless) + Minimoog


I took some bass lessons from Scott in the early 90s. I'm pretty sure he told me that the 5-string he used was a Kramer (and I don't think it was fretless). I think it might have been a Kramer Ripley Bass.

Also, since Frank often added chorus to the bass during mixing, on the 1988 tour Scott used a Boss CE-2 Chorus (made for guitar) pedal on that a friend had given him.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:27 am 
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Scott Thunes:
1981/82, Carvin bass, amp unknown,
1984, Fender Precision + Fender Jazzbass (backup only), amp unknown,
1988, Fender Precision + unknown 5-string (probably fretless) + Minimoog


I took some bass lessons from Scott in the early 90s. I'm pretty sure he told me that the 5-string he used was a Kramer (and I don't think it was fretless). I think it might have been a Kramer Ripley Bass.

Also, since Frank often added chorus to the bass during mixing, on the 1988 tour Scott used a Boss CE-2 Chorus (made for guitar) pedal on that a friend had given him.


I believe I read in Bass Player magazine that Steve Vai's wife, Pia, gave Scott that chorus pedal. In that same issue, there was a transcription of Alien Orifice (MAJNH) by both Scott and Bryan Beller.

Also, Tom Fowler used a Fender P bass in '73, but switched to the Alembic sometime in '74.
Patrick used a fretless Fender P live and his upright for Ocean Is The Ultimate Solution.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:08 pm 
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Hi,

This may not sound right ... or seem right ... but it's just a thought.

For a "composer" that has the music in his head already defined to a certain point, if that was the case with Frank, knowing that in the early days, these things were more open, it seemed, I think that most players concentrated on just playing the parts well, and fitting into the music, which might have intimidated anyone from using an instrument more up to date and that could have a bigger and more up to date "sound", which was already happening by the mid 70's. By then, all "major" bands are showcasing monster sounds and effects, and I would not be surprised if Frank could have said something like ... listen to this ... no effect ... so just play the music!

And both of those Fenders, are probably 2 of the most reliable bass instruments ever made. There probably isn't a single one of us, or them, that didn't have one, or play one!

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